New Years Eve

[Chuck]

So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?

My wife and I are celebrating our 10th wedding anniversary so I think that
we are going to splurge and go to an expensive restaurant and then stay the
night at the Hilton or something...

[Frederick Wilson]

My wife will be having a baby. Well the Doc says the baby should be here
before then but if it is not, they will induce on New Year Eve.

Fred

"Chuck" > wrote in message
.net...
> So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?
>
> My wife and I are celebrating our 10th wedding anniversary so I think that
> we are going to splurge and go to an expensive restaurant and then stay
the
> night at the Hilton or something...
>
>

[Frederick Wilson]

Thanks for the advice but this is my Wife's second, the first came after two
easy hours of labor and three pushes. Completely natural. I don't think you
can talk her into the drugs now. I guess it is that good ole army training.

Also, Congrats to you too.

FWIW this is #4 for me. Feels like old hat. (13, 9, 3, 0)

Fred


"Richard Riley" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:07:34 GMT, "Frederick Wilson"
> > wrote:
>
> :My wife will be having a baby. Well the Doc says the baby should be here
> :before then but if it is not, they will induce on New Year Eve.
>
> Congratulations. We induced on Thanksgiving. It's a heck of a ride.
>
> One word of advice, especially if it's her first. When you check in,
> give them your name and ask for an epidural. Don't let them talk you
> into waiting.

[Jay Honeck]

> So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?

Old friends of ours are coming down from WI, and we're going to party
locally and spend the night in one of our hot tubs :-)

Oughta be fun, cuz all the college kids (35,000 students and faculty) are
GONE -- many in Florida attending the "Outback Bowl" -- leaving the local
bars open to us adults, for a change!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:49:07 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
in Message-Id: >:

>So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?

Why did you post this question to an aviation newsgroup?

[Morgans]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:49:07 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
> in Message-Id: >:
>
> >So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?
>
> Why did you post this question to an aviation newsgroup?


So why do you ask this on an aviation newsgroup?

If you haven't noticed, this is a kind of virtual hangar talk place. He
thought some people might be flying somewhere, I'll bet. Just ignore the
threads that you don't like, and move on.

Life is too short. Ignore!
--
Jim in NC

[Chuck]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:49:07 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
> in Message-Id: >:
>
> >So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?
>
> Why did you post this question to an aviation newsgroup?
>
>

Why do you have a problem why my question?

I am curious as to what the people in here are doing for NY eve.

I am trying to start a small conversation that doesn't include arguing or
fighting, and could be interesting. But I see that you have ruined that
idea.

BTW, I believe that you misspelled your last name. Shouldn't it be Diarrhea?

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:03:14 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
in Message-Id: >:

>"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:49:07 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
>> in Message-Id: >:
>>
>> >So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?
>>
>> Why did you post this question to an aviation newsgroup?
>>
>
>Why do you have a problem why my question?

Because it doesn't seem to be aviation related.

>I am curious as to what the people in here are doing for NY eve.
>
>I am trying to start a small conversation that doesn't include arguing or
>fighting, and could be interesting.

Why do you feel this is the proper newsgroup to post such a
non-aviation related question?

Are you aware that there are charters for newsgroups that specify
acceptable topics?

From: Geoff Peck )
Subject: CHARTER: rec.aviation.piloting
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Date: 2002-01-13 00:45:07 PST

The charter of rec.aviation.piloting is:


************************************************** *****************
* Information pertinent to pilots of general aviation aircraft
* which would not fall into one of the other non-misc
* rec.aviation groups. Topics include, but are not limited to
* flying skills, interesting sights, destinations, flight
* characteristics of aircraft, unusual situations, handling
* emergencies, working with air traffic control, international
* flights, customs and immigration, experiences with
* ground support facilities, etc.


************************************************** *****************

(This used to be posted monthly, but I haven't seen it lately.)

From my interpretation, your post failed to fall within the
rec.aviation.piloting newsgroup charter. If you disagree, I'd be
happy to hear your view.

>But I see that you have ruined that idea.

How do you perceive my inquiry regarding the appropriateness of your
article for rec.aviatin.piloting as ruining it? Mine was just a
question as was yours.

>BTW, I believe that you misspelled your last name. Shouldn't it be Diarrhea?

What makes you think it is misspelled? Or are you attempting an
invective retort?

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:10:11 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
]> wrote in Message-Id:
>:

>From: "Morgans" >
>
>>"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:49:07 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
>>> in Message-Id: >:
>>>
>>> >So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?
>>>
>>> Why did you post this question to an aviation newsgroup?
>>
>>
>>So why do you ask this on an aviation newsgroup?
>>
>>If you haven't noticed, this is a kind of virtual hangar talk place. He
>>thought some people might be flying somewhere, I'll bet. Just ignore the
>>threads that you don't like, and move on.
>>
>>Life is too short. Ignore!
>>--
>>Jim in NC
>
>Maybe it's the holidays, but it sure seems like some people here really have a bug up their
>ass, lately.

Specifically what is it that causes you to state that opinion?

> What the hell happened to the brotherhood(apologies to the women, I include you but a
>better word escapes me at the moment) that we all share as pilots.

Nothing.

> Is "So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?" considered a major offense in this group, now?

It's offensive to the extent that it is non compliant with the
rec.aviation.piloting charter:

From: Geoff Peck )
Subject: CHARTER: rec.aviation.piloting
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Date: 2002-01-13 00:45:07 PST

The charter of rec.aviation.piloting is:



************************************************** *****************
* Information pertinent to pilots of general aviation aircraft
* which would not fall into one of the other non-misc
* rec.aviation groups. Topics include, but are not limited to
* flying skills, interesting sights, destinations, flight
* characteristics of aircraft, unusual situations, handling
* emergencies, working with air traffic control, international
* flights, customs and immigration, experiences with
* ground support facilities, etc.


************************************************** *****************

> I don't find Chuck's question the least bit offensive.

I find it inconsistent with the newsgroup charter, don't you?

>It's not like he's wasting bandwidth on a
>group that's curing cancer or saving the world from terrorism.

Is that the only time you feel it is important to respect the
newsgroup charter?

>It's just flying, folks!

If we permit the content of a newsgroup to exceed the bounds of its
charter, the usenet hierarchy will soon become meaningless.

> Some of you must be a real joy to meet on the tarmac...........
> "Hi, how's it going?'"
> "F**k you!"

I think you overreacted. The only one being offensive in this thread
is you.

[John Gaquin]

Pretty standard on the rest of Usenet, but a bit unusual here in rap. It
only took till the fourth post to degenerate to personal insult.

[Martin Hotze]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:03:14 GMT, Chuck wrote:

>I am curious as to what the people in here are doing for NY eve.
>

well, I will at least screw my wife and maybe 1 or 2 more ladies and have a
great time.

>I am trying to start a small conversation that doesn't include arguing or
>fighting, and could be interesting. But I see that you have ruined that
>idea.

It is reserved to Jay to start these off-topic threads. :-))

>BTW, I believe that you misspelled your last name. Shouldn't it be Diarrhea?


oh, yessssss. a name flame war. *wohoooooo*

#m
--
harsh regulations in North Korea (read below link after reading the story):
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/04/open-mikulan.php
oooops ... sorry ... it happened in the USA, ya know: the land of the free.

[Morgans]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote

Bitch, bitch, bitch, and wine, wine, wine.

I feel it coming ---------

Plonk!!!

Ahhhhhh
--
Jim in NC

[Chuck]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:03:14 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
> in Message-Id: >:
>
> >"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:49:07 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
> >> in Message-Id: >:
> >>
> >> >So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?
> >>
> >> Why did you post this question to an aviation newsgroup?
> >>
> >
> >Why do you have a problem why my question?
>
> Because it doesn't seem to be aviation related.
>


I don't like to pull other people into this but here are a few examples of
non-aviation related posts that I have seen recently. Where were you then?



OT-Killing Pop-ups as a webmaster - Jay Honeck 12-4-03 This is about coding
web pages. Well, it is an aviation page, huh? Guess that makes it aviation
related.

Tent basics // Oshkosh prep - Mike Z. 12-19-03 Seems to me this has nothing
to do with aviation, other than the fact he is setting up a camping spot in
Oshkosh.

A Question... - Lou Sir 11-11-03 This one is obvious.

OT: Police/Fire/EMS & Phonetic Alphabet - Ben Smith 11-18-03 How is this
aviation related?



I found other replies to posts, but didn't see the original posts, but if I
remember correctly, there was nothing that was aviation related in the
original post.

All of the above have wasted more bandwidth than my question.

Hmmm... maybe you know that I do not have a pilot rating, so I am not worthy
of being in this NG.

Go pick on someone else...

[Maule Driver]

Precisely what I had in mind Martin. And I'm flying out of town to do it.
Happy New Year!
"Martin Hotze" >
> well, I will at least screw my wife and maybe 1 or 2 more ladies and have
a
> great time.
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:50:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
]> wrote in Message-Id:
>:

[drivel snipped]

>This should really **** off these arrogant cocksuckers!!
>I can't wait for the resident netcops to respond.

Your cowardly profaning of fellow airmen from an anonymized mail2news
gateway may be your idea of vulgar fun, but it reveals far more about
your motivation for anonymity than you realize.

--

Speech is the mirror of the soul: as a man speaks, so is he.
- Publilius Syrus

[Gary Drescher]

"Nomen Nescio" ]> wrote in message
...
> I'm beginning to think this group should be renamed
> REC.AVIATION. ASSHOLES_THAT_FLY!
> I'm disappointed that the decent people here don't just
> tell these assholes to shut up...

Fine, if you insist: please shut up. Seriously, you're the most
prolifically abusive poster I've seen here in quite awhile. If you can't or
won't express yourself without name-calling, then please try to cultivate an
affinity for silence.

> I've got to wonder how many people come here to talk about aviation
> and leave without a word after seeing the trash that think they own this
group...
> This should really **** off these arrogant cocksuckers!!

[Chuck]

"Nomen Nescio" ]> wrote in message
...

<snip>

> No, Chuck, I don't think it's the lack of a pilot rating. Most of the
assholes that are posting
> here are not, in any way, representative of the general pilot population.
If aviation interests
> you, don't let the attitude of these ****ed off jerkoffs deter you from
persuing aviation related
> activities. Most pilots are fine people. Some of the people here seem like
fine people. But the
> half dozen assholes here are the ones that always want to be in your face
playing netcop.

<snip>

Eventhought I do not have a pilot rating, I do have an A&P, and yes,
aviation is a strong interest of mine. Someday I do hope to get the pilot
rating when my finances are in a little better shape.

I know that all of the pilots that I have met have been great people. One
jerk from the net ain't gonna change my mind.

In researching this guy, he is a bitter, know it all who apparently has no
other purpose in life but to try to make other people look bad.

If he acts like this in his neighborhood, I would be surprised if he hasn't
had his prized orchids stomped on and crushed!

[Jim Fisher]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
> Your cowardly profaning of fellow airmen from an anonymized mail2news
> gateway may be your idea of vulgar fun, but it reveals far more about
> your motivation for anonymity than you realize.


So, Lar', just what in hell does this have to do with aviation?

--
Jim Fisher

[Jay Honeck]

> > well, I will at least screw my wife and maybe 1 or 2 more ladies and
have
> > a great time.

> Precisely what I had in mind Martin. And I'm flying out of town to do it.
> Happy New Year!

You're going to screw Martin's wife?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John Galban]

"Jim Fisher" > wrote in message >...
> "Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
> > Your cowardly profaning of fellow airmen from an anonymized mail2news
> > gateway may be your idea of vulgar fun, but it reveals far more about
> > your motivation for anonymity than you realize.
>
>
> So, Lar', just what in hell does this have to do with aviation?

Haaaa Haaa! Priceless Jim! You forgot to add :

From: Geoff Peck )
Subject: CHARTER: rec.aviation.piloting
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Date: 2002-01-13 00:45:07 PST

The charter of rec.aviation.piloting is:


************************************************** *****************
* Information pertinent to pilots of general aviation aircraft
* which would not fall into one of the other non-misc
* rec.aviation groups. Topics include, but are not limited to
* flying skills, interesting sights, destinations, flight
* characteristics of aircraft, unusual situations, handling
* emergencies, working with air traffic control, international
* flights, customs and immigration, experiences with
* ground support facilities, etc.


************************************************** *****************

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Jay Honeck]

> I hope you do get a chance to become a pilot. Being a pilot will make you
a better A&P, being
> an A&P will make you a better pilot.

Being an A&P will also allow him to buy a nicer plane.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[G.R. Patterson III]

Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> That is PREJUDICE and last I knew, that was a bad thing!

If you don't have the ability to prejudge people, you aren't likely to live to
adulthood.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[Earl Grieda]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:10:11 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
> ]> wrote in Message-Id:
> >:
>
> >From: "Morgans" >
> >
> >>"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:49:07 GMT, "Chuck" > wrote
> >>> in Message-Id: >:
> >>>
> >>> >So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?
> >>>
> >>> Why did you post this question to an aviation newsgroup?
> >>
> >>
> >>So why do you ask this on an aviation newsgroup?
> >>
> >>If you haven't noticed, this is a kind of virtual hangar talk place. He
> >>thought some people might be flying somewhere, I'll bet. Just ignore
the
> >>threads that you don't like, and move on.
> >>
> >>Life is too short. Ignore!
> >>--
> >>Jim in NC
> >
> >Maybe it's the holidays, but it sure seems like some people here really
have a bug up their
> >ass, lately.
>
> Specifically what is it that causes you to state that opinion?
>
> > What the hell happened to the brotherhood(apologies to the women, I
include you but a
> >better word escapes me at the moment) that we all share as pilots.
>
> Nothing.
>
> > Is "So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?" considered a major
offense in this group, now?
>
> It's offensive to the extent that it is non compliant with the
> rec.aviation.piloting charter:
>
> From: Geoff Peck )
> Subject: CHARTER: rec.aviation.piloting
> Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
> Date: 2002-01-13 00:45:07 PST
>
> The charter of rec.aviation.piloting is:
>
>
>
> ************************************************** *****************
> * Information pertinent to pilots of general aviation aircraft
> * which would not fall into one of the other non-misc
> * rec.aviation groups. Topics include, but are not limited to
> * flying skills, interesting sights, destinations, flight
> * characteristics of aircraft, unusual situations, handling
> * emergencies, working with air traffic control, international
> * flights, customs and immigration, experiences with
> * ground support facilities, etc.
>
>
> ************************************************** *****************
>
> > I don't find Chuck's question the least bit offensive.
>
> I find it inconsistent with the newsgroup charter, don't you?
>
> >It's not like he's wasting bandwidth on a
> >group that's curing cancer or saving the world from terrorism.
>
> Is that the only time you feel it is important to respect the
> newsgroup charter?
>
> >It's just flying, folks!
>
> If we permit the content of a newsgroup to exceed the bounds of its
> charter, the usenet hierarchy will soon become meaningless.
>
> > Some of you must be a real joy to meet on the tarmac...........
> > "Hi, how's it going?'"
> > "F**k you!"
>
> I think you overreacted. The only one being offensive in this thread
> is you.
>
>

I think what you are seeing is "evolution in action" in that this group is
evolving into a forum of individuals with a common interest (flying)
discussing some topics that are, perhaps, tangentially
related to flying. As with any shift there will be opinions pro and con as
to whether or not this is a good thing, but nature will have its way.

Earl G.

[Gary Drescher]

Nomen,

Rather than rehash past posts, I'd prefer just to thank you for the
constructive tone of your last one, and encourage you to continue posting,
without invective.

Happy new year and happy flying.

--Gary

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 08:35:03 GMT, "Earl Grieda"
> wrote:

>I think what you are seeing is "evolution in action"

I would characterize the change as devolution. Evolution occurred
when the rec.aviation.piloting charter was created and passed by vote.

>in that this group is evolving into a forum of individuals with a common
>interest (flying) discussing some topics that are, perhaps, tangentially
> related to flying.

And perhaps not. Personally, I see NO relation to flying in this
question: "So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?" And the
vulgar responses generated by that question bear testament to its
inappropriateness, IMO.

>As with any shift there will be opinions pro and con as
>to whether or not this is a good thing,

I see it more as a matter of such content being counter to the
rec.aviation.piloting's charter.

>but nature will have its way.

Only if the readership permits it to continue to devolve.

Because the newsgroup's charter ceased being periodically published,
the OP was unaware that there were guidelines for the topics of
rec.aviation.piloting articles. But publishing the
rec.aviation.piloting charter in the newsgroup isn't going to give him
a place to post similar invitations to kibitz. The creation of a new
newsgroup might.

[Chuck]

> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 08:35:03 GMT, "Earl Grieda"
> > wrote:
>
> >I think what you are seeing is "evolution in action"
>
> I would characterize the change as devolution. Evolution occurred
> when the rec.aviation.piloting charter was created and passed by vote.
>
> >in that this group is evolving into a forum of individuals with a common
> >interest (flying) discussing some topics that are, perhaps, tangentially
> > related to flying.
>
> And perhaps not. Personally, I see NO relation to flying in this
> question: "So... What are ya'll doing for New Years Eve?" And the
> vulgar responses generated by that question bear testament to its
> inappropriateness, IMO.


I believe that the "vulgar responses" were aimed at you for being the NG
cop, not at me for asking a simple innocent question.


<snip>

>
> Because the newsgroup's charter ceased being periodically published,
> the OP was unaware that there were guidelines for the topics of
> rec.aviation.piloting articles. But publishing the
> rec.aviation.piloting charter in the newsgroup isn't going to give him
> a place to post similar invitations to kibitz. The creation of a new
> newsgroup might.
>


Hey Larry, have you killfiled me or you just don't want to answer my
previous reponses about YOU posting off topic? YOU need to read the charter
and practice what you preach.