How Many Hours Did You Complete Your Commercial rating in?

[Cecil E. Chapman]

Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial rating in?

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Cecil
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

[H. Adam Stevens]

174.7 hours
date 8/21/68
It was Gene Minter's first DE checkride, in a 150, 6452S, I was 18.
The checkride took 1.1 hours.

blue skies
H.
CPA S&MEL IA
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"Cecil E. Chapman" > wrote in message
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> Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial rating
in?
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> Good Flights!
>
> Cecil
> PP-ASEL
>
> Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text
at:
> www.bayareapilot.com
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
>
> "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
> this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
> - Cecil Day Lewis -
>
>

[BTIZ]

as in how many hours in the books?
or.. once deciding to "go for the commercial".. how much dual was involved
to prepare for the check ride.

From the time of my Private Check, until perusing my Civil Commercial,
almost 25 years passed, and a whole bunch of hours.. you leave an open ended
question.

BT

"Cecil E. Chapman" > wrote in message
...
> Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial rating
in?
>
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> =-----
> Good Flights!
>
> Cecil
> PP-ASEL
>
> Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text
at:
> www.bayareapilot.com
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
>
> "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
> this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
> - Cecil Day Lewis -
>
>

[Brad Z]

Cecil- To answer your question, I don't know.

Are you considering total time to meet all of the requirements of 61.129?

To me, the Commercial Cert isn't a ticket that you work on in X number of
hours. I suppose you could do it in as little as the 3 hours within 60 days
to meet 61.129(a)(3)(v) if you have met every other requirement of 61.129(a)
and are proficient at the manuevers.

If you are talking about the number of hours required to train for the
manuevers for the checkride, 10 or less should be sufficient if you're
familiar with the airplane you will use. Since a complex aircraft is
required for at least part of the checkride, some folks will require more
hours to be comfortable with the new plane.



"Cecil E. Chapman" > wrote in message
...
> Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial rating
in?
>
> --
> --
> =-----
> Good Flights!
>
> Cecil
> PP-ASEL
>
> Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text
at:
> www.bayareapilot.com
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
>
> "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
> this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
> - Cecil Day Lewis -
>
>

[Larry Fransson]

On 2003-12-30 20:36:07 -0800, "Cecil E. Chapman"
> said:

> Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial rating
in?

I took 12.2 hours of dual instruction in a 172RG. (Lazy 8s gave me
particular tought time.) Then a little over an hour for the checkride. I
had a total of 261 hours after finishing the checkride.

(On a different subject, if someone - particularly among those who noted
the lack of line wrapping in my posts before - could let me know how this
post looks, I'd appreciate it! My test posts to alt.test look fine to me.
I want to make sure they look okay to everyone else as well.)

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Larry Fransson
Seattle, WA

[Cecil E. Chapman]

> If you are talking about the number of hours required to train for the
> maneuvers for the checkride, 10 or less should be sufficient if you're
> familiar with the airplane you will use. Since a complex aircraft is
> required for at least part of the checkride, some folks will require more
> hours to be comfortable with the new plane.

That's exactly what I was asking. I didn't intend to be so vague in my
question.

Thanks!

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text at:
www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

[Cecil E. Chapman]

thank you! That is exactly the info I was after. I didn't realize until I
re-read my post that I wasn't very specific as to the type of information I
was looking for.

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text at:
www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
"Larry Fransson" > wrote in message
news:2003123106222316807%lfransson@comcastnet...
> On 2003-12-30 20:36:07 -0800, "Cecil E. Chapman"
> > said:
>
> > Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial rating
> in?
>
> I took 12.2 hours of dual instruction in a 172RG. (Lazy 8s gave me
> particular tought time.) Then a little over an hour for the checkride. I
> had a total of 261 hours after finishing the checkride.
>
> (On a different subject, if someone - particularly among those who noted
> the lack of line wrapping in my posts before - could let me know how this
> post looks, I'd appreciate it! My test posts to alt.test look fine to me.
> I want to make sure they look okay to everyone else as well.)
>
> --
> Larry Fransson
> Seattle, WA

[Andrew Gideon]

Cecil E. Chapman wrote:

>> If you are talking about the number of hours required to train for the
>> maneuvers for the checkride, 10 or less should be sufficient if you're
>> familiar with the airplane you will use. Since a complex aircraft is
>> required for at least part of the checkride, some folks will require more
>> hours to be comfortable with the new plane.
>
> That's exactly what I was asking. I didn't intend to be so vague in my
> question.

I asked my CFII this a little while ago, and thought I could do it in 10-15
hours. The caveat is that I'm not yet flying complex (although my club has
one), but I have spent a couple of hours playing with the maneuvers (the
"fun" part of the rating, in my opinion {8^).

- Andrew

[Judah]

Looks fine...

And good info, too...

:)


Larry Fransson > wrote in
news:2003123106222316807%lfransson@comcastnet:

> On 2003-12-30 20:36:07 -0800, "Cecil E. Chapman"
> > said:
>
>> Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial
>> rating in?
>
> I took 12.2 hours of dual instruction in a 172RG. (Lazy 8s gave me
> particular tought time.) Then a little over an hour for the checkride.
> I had a total of 261 hours after finishing the checkride.
>
> (On a different subject, if someone - particularly among those who
> noted the lack of line wrapping in my posts before - could let me know
> how this post looks, I'd appreciate it! My test posts to alt.test look
> fine to me. I want to make sure they look okay to everyone else as
> well.)
>

[Cecil E. Chapman]

> one), but I have spent a couple of hours playing with the maneuvers (the
> "fun" part of the rating, in my opinion {8^).

I know one day, long after getting my ticket (before starting my instrument
rating)I asked my CFII if we could go up together and he could guide me
through some of the Commercial maneuvers,,,, the one I was most interested
in was the Chandelle (now THAT'S a VALUABLE maneuver to have in your pilot
'toolbox'),, but I got to try lazy eights as well. As much as I enjoy the
challenge of the instrument rating, I am REALLY looking forward to when I
start my Commercial training so that I can look out and enjoy the 'view'
again. :-) As far as utility I also look forward to learning how to do
those emergency steep spirals to a landing...

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text at:
www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

[Teacherjh]

>>
the Chandelle (now THAT'S a VALUABLE maneuver to have in your pilot
'toolbox'),,
<<

Really? Why? When would you need it? (Now, the piloting skills needed to
perform a chandelle are useful, but that's just a matter of skill and control
feel. The chandelle itself? Tell me.

Jose

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[Brad Z]

Perhaps there's a fair amount of dogfighting in the RHV pattern.

"Teacherjh" > wrote in message
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> >>
> the Chandelle (now THAT'S a VALUABLE maneuver to have in your pilot
> 'toolbox'),,
> <<
>
> Really? Why? When would you need it? (Now, the piloting skills needed
to
> perform a chandelle are useful, but that's just a matter of skill and
control
> feel. The chandelle itself? Tell me.
>
> Jose
>
> --
> (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Cecil E. Chapman]

> Really? Why? When would you need it? (Now, the piloting skills needed
to
> perform a chandelle are useful, but that's just a matter of skill and
control
> feel. The chandelle itself? Tell me.
>
> Jose

??? A maneuver that allows you to accomplish a 180 degree turn WITH a climb
in a relatively small amount of space? Can you say "box-end" canyon?

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text at:
www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
"Teacherjh" > wrote in message
...
> >>
> the Chandelle (now THAT'S a VALUABLE maneuver to have in your pilot
> 'toolbox'),,
> <<
>

>
> --
> (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Cecil E. Chapman]

See my response to the other post in this thread


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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text at:
www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
"Brad Z" > wrote in message
news:JtLIb.182718$8y1.584325@attbi_s52...
> Perhaps there's a fair amount of dogfighting in the RHV pattern.
>
> "Teacherjh" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >>
> > the Chandelle (now THAT'S a VALUABLE maneuver to have in your pilot
> > 'toolbox'),,
> > <<
> >
> > Really? Why? When would you need it? (Now, the piloting skills
needed
> to
> > perform a chandelle are useful, but that's just a matter of skill and
> control
> > feel. The chandelle itself? Tell me.
> >
> > Jose
> >
> > --
> > (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)
>
>

[David Brooks]

"Larry Fransson" > wrote in message
news:2003123106222316807%lfransson@comcastnet...
> On 2003-12-30 20:36:07 -0800, "Cecil E. Chapman"
> > said:
>
> > Just curious.... How many hours did you complete your Commercial rating
> in?
>
> I took 12.2 hours of dual instruction in a 172RG. (Lazy 8s gave me
> particular tought time.) Then a little over an hour for the checkride. I
> had a total of 261 hours after finishing the checkride.

I recently started, and my instructor has said (somewhat depressingly) that
lazt 8's take a *lot* of practice. Our DE likes to see good aircraft
control, too. Did you practice them solo?

Anyway I need 10 hours in the Cardinal to get club signoff.

-- David Brooks

[Larry Fransson]

On 2004-01-01 14:20:49 -0800, "David Brooks"
> said:

> I recently started, and my instructor has said (somewhat depressingly)
that
> lazt 8's take a *lot* of practice. Our DE likes to see good aircraft
> control, too. Did you practice them solo?

My log shows one solo practice flight about three-quarters of the way
through the training.

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Larry Fransson
Seattle, WA

[Brad Z]

For those who aren't aware, the Chandelle originated as a WW1 dogfighting
manuever to shake a following combatant by out-turning and out-climbing.
Works in box canyons too.



"Cecil E. Chapman" > wrote in message
m...
> See my response to the other post in this thread
>
>
> --
> --
> =-----
> Good Flights!
>
> Cecil
> PP-ASEL
>
> Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text
at:
> www.bayareapilot.com
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
>
> "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
> this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
> - Cecil Day Lewis -
> "Brad Z" > wrote in message
> news:JtLIb.182718$8y1.584325@attbi_s52...
> > Perhaps there's a fair amount of dogfighting in the RHV pattern.
> >
> > "Teacherjh" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > >>
> > > the Chandelle (now THAT'S a VALUABLE maneuver to have in your pilot
> > > 'toolbox'),,
> > > <<
> > >
> > > Really? Why? When would you need it? (Now, the piloting skills
> needed
> > to
> > > perform a chandelle are useful, but that's just a matter of skill and
> > control
> > > feel. The chandelle itself? Tell me.
> > >
> > > Jose
> > >
> > > --
> > > (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)
> >
> >
>
>