Secret Life of the Tow Rope

[Frank Whiteley]

As presented by SSA State Governor for Wisconsin, Peter Von Trescow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

[Skyslicer]

oops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssFSnYca6-U

"Frank Whiteley" > wrote in message
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> As presented by SSA State Governor for Wisconsin, Peter Von Trescow
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?

[JohnDeRosa]

The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the wake"!

[JohnDeRosa]

On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, JohnDeRosa wrote:
> The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the wake"!

psychedelic of course.

[Peter von Tresckow]

"JohnDeRosa" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, JohnDeRosa wrote:
>> The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the wake"!
>
> psychedelic of course.

Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing device
(cardboard fins?) next time I try this.

Pete

[Brad Alston]

"JohnDeRosa" wrote in message
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Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing device
(cardboard fins?) next time I try this.

Pete

Interesting perspective...great idea! It would be great to have another facing the towplane, synchronize the videos, and put them on a split screen together...easy for me to say!

Brad.

[Martin Gregorie[_5_]]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:36 -0500, Peter von Tresckow wrote:

> "JohnDeRosa" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, JohnDeRosa wrote:
>>> The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the wake"!
>>
>> psychedelic of course.
>
> Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing
> device (cardboard fins?) next time I try this.
>
> Pete
How was the camera mounted?

How far from the hook was it?

I'd assumed it was strapped to the rope with wing tape or similar a few
feet away from the tug's hook and that the rolling was due to the rope
twisting under tension.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
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[Peter von Tresckow]

"Martin Gregorie" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:36 -0500, Peter von Tresckow wrote:
>
>> "JohnDeRosa" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, JohnDeRosa wrote:
>>>> The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the wake"!
>>>
>>> psychedelic of course.
>>
>> Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing
>> device (cardboard fins?) next time I try this.
>>
>> Pete
> How was the camera mounted?
>
> How far from the hook was it?
>
> I'd assumed it was strapped to the rope with wing tape or similar a few
> feet away from the tug's hook and that the rolling was due to the rope
> twisting under tension.
>
>
> --
> martin@ | Martin Gregorie
> gregorie. | Essex, UK
> org |

I just taped the camera to the rope about 20 feet or so from the glider end
of the rope. Nothing fancy, just a whole bunch of wing tape. And yes the
twisting is from the hollowbraid rope coming under thension. Until I watched
the video I didn't realize how much it twists when you apply tension.

Pete

[Martin Gregorie[_5_]]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:15:37 +0000, Martin Gregorie wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:36 -0500, Peter von Tresckow wrote:
>
>> "JohnDeRosa" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, JohnDeRosa wrote:
>>>> The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the
>>>> wake"!
>>>
>>> psychedelic of course.
>>
>> Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing
>> device (cardboard fins?) next time I try this.
>>
>> Pete
> How was the camera mounted?
>
> How far from the hook was it?
>
> I'd assumed it was strapped to the rope with wing tape or similar a few
> feet away from the tug's hook and that the rolling was due to the rope
> twisting under tension.
>
....this time with a sig!


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

[Martin Gregorie[_5_]]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:20:56 -0500, Peter von Tresckow wrote:

> "Martin Gregorie" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:41:36 -0500, Peter von Tresckow wrote:
>>
>>> "JohnDeRosa" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, JohnDeRosa wrote:
>>>>> The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the
>>>>> wake"!
>>>>
>>>> psychedelic of course.
>>>
>>> Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing
>>> device (cardboard fins?) next time I try this.
>>>
>>> Pete
>> How was the camera mounted?
>>
>> How far from the hook was it?
>>
>> I'd assumed it was strapped to the rope with wing tape or similar a few
>> feet away from the tug's hook and that the rolling was due to the rope
>> twisting under tension.
>>
>>
>> --
>> martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |
>
> I just taped the camera to the rope about 20 feet or so from the glider
> end of the rope. Nothing fancy, just a whole bunch of wing tape. And yes
> the twisting is from the hollowbraid rope coming under thension. Until I
> watched the video I didn't realize how much it twists when you apply
> tension.
>
Somehow I doubt that just adding fins will help much since its the rope
twisting. Would it help to put the camera very near the tug's hook? That
should get rid of the twist but the glider may look rather small.

Has anybody tried the same trick with a winch? Putting the camera near
the parachute end of the shock rope may work quite well.


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martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

[JohnDeRosa]

On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:41:49 AM UTC-5, vontresc wrote:

> > Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing device (cardboard fins?) next time I try this.

If the camera is attached to the tow rope via wing tape, it will twist with the rope no matter what fins you put on. You would have to devise a ring of some sort that rotated freely.

Cool video. A camera angle I have never seen before.

[Peter Higgs]

It would be interesting if you mixed some Left-Hand weave rope with some
Right-Hand weave rope...
Maybe it would just all unravel !

Pete

>
>I just taped the camera to the rope about 20 feet or so from the glider
end
>
>of the rope. Nothing fancy, just a whole bunch of wing tape. And yes the
>twisting is from the hollowbraid rope coming under thension. Until I
>watched
>the video I didn't realize how much it twists when you apply tension.
>
>Pete
>
>
>

[Peter Higgs]

It would be interesting if you mixed some Left-Hand weave rope with some
Right-Hand weave rope...
Maybe it would just all unravel !

Pete

>
>I just taped the camera to the rope about 20 feet or so from the glider
end
>
>of the rope. Nothing fancy, just a whole bunch of wing tape. And yes the
>twisting is from the hollowbraid rope coming under thension. Until I
>watched
>the video I didn't realize how much it twists when you apply tension.
>
>Pete
>
>
>

[Uncle Fuzzy[_2_]]

On Sunday, September 9, 2012 10:09:27 PM UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> As presented by SSA State Governor for Wisconsin, Peter Von Trescow http://www.youtube.com/watch?

That was FUN! Thanks for posting!

[[email protected]]

Τη ΔευτÎ*Ï�α, 10 ΣεπτεμβÏ�ίου 2012 8:09:27 Ï€.μ. UTC+3, ο χÏ�ήστης Frank Whiteley Î*γÏ�αψε:
> As presented by SSA State Governor for Wisconsin, Peter Von Trescow
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?

Hi,
I am Kostas from Greece. Last summer I did exactly the same. You may see in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TfSpwGUX4s some photos from the video. I think the result is nice. Have a look after 1:30''!
Thanks

[Peter Wyld[_2_]]

At 15:41 10 September 2012, Peter von Tresckow wrote:
>
>"JohnDeRosa" wrote in message
...
>> On Monday, September 10, 2012 10:33:12 AM UTC-5, JohnDeRosa wrote:
>>> The slow motion part was sychedelic! I want to see "boxing the wake"!
>>
>> psychedelic of course.
>
>Hmmm that could be fun. I'm thinking of adding some small stabilizing
>device
>(cardboard fins?) next time I try this.
>
>Pete
>
>
>

Many (30+) years ago, a photographer at Booker thought it would be good to
take pictures of a K13 on tow, from straight ahead (the tow rope). So he
fashioned a Styrofoam box - with stabilising fins - to house a motordrive
Nikon and attached this to the tow rope. The compbination took off, did its
stuff and came back - without the styrofoam box and the camera. It hasn't
(AFAIAA) been found yet!
A much less expensive exercise nowadays with cheap digital keyring cameras
etc.!

[[email protected]]

On Sunday, September 9, 2012 11:09:27 PM UTC-6, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> As presented by SSA State Governor for Wisconsin, Peter Von Trescow
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?

Next time you try it put another cam 180 degrees towards the tow plane. Lots to see there much more really? Might actually see the other cam looking at you?

Dieter

[BobW]

On 9/12/2012 12:44 AM, wrote:
> Τη ΔευτÎ*Ï�α, 10 ΣεπτεμβÏ�ίου 2012 8:09:27 Ï€.μ. UTC+3, ο χÏ�ήστης Frank
> Whiteley Î*γÏ�αψε:
>> As presented by SSA State Governor for Wisconsin, Peter Von Trescow
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?
>
> Hi, I am Kostas from Greece. Last summer I did exactly the same. You may
> see in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TfSpwGUX4s some photos
> from the video. I think the result is nice. Have a look after 1:30''!
> Thanks
>

Mercy! That took lots of effort all along the production chain. Nicely done!

Bob W.

[[email protected]]

On Monday, September 10, 2012 4:29:44 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:

> Has anybody tried the same trick with a winch? Putting the camera near
> the parachute end of the shock rope may work quite well.

I used a similar camera with wing tape to a winch cable (spectra) a few months back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Wb1s0tHZs

Rob