Can You Name an "Aircraft-Accessible" Aviation Museum?

[Jay Honeck]

In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
aircraft, despite being located on an airport.

Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.

So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those of
us who might actually fly in!

1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/

2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
located on the old Forbes Field air base.
See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/

3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but very
good.
See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/

4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing annual
fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .

5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
us over to the museum.
See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.

Can you add any more to this list?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[MC]

> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?


Kansas City, MO (MKC) Airline History Museum
http://www.airlinehistorymuseum.com/

[Ron Natalie]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.

You can fly into the airport, you just can't taxi up to the buidling.

College Park has a nice museum adjacent to the FBO "buildings". Of course
you have to have prior permission to fly in the CGS these days. I've been through
the fingerprinting and rectal probing required however.

The Virigina Air Museum at Richmond International is on the airport property
and one of the FBO's is right next door, so you can walk from your plane to the
museum.

Also the Kalamazoo air museum is on the field and I can't remember if I got a lift
over there from the FBO or not.

> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.

Unless you are going to land on the grass at Pioneer field, the AirVenture museum
ain't any closer to your plane than parking at Signature is to go to the Hazy center.

[Jim]

Kalamazoo Air Zoo. At least the old one. Dunno about the new building that
they are building.
--
Jim Burns III

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"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> Unless you are going to land on the grass at Pioneer field, the AirVenture
museum
> ain't any closer to your plane than parking at Signature is to go to the
Hazy center.

I thought you said they wouldn't run you over to the museum?

Did I misunderstand?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Ron Natalie]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:xvGKb.751091$HS4.5886342@attbi_s01...
> > Unless you are going to land on the grass at Pioneer field, the AirVenture
> museum
> > ain't any closer to your plane than parking at Signature is to go to the
> Hazy center.
>
> I thought you said they wouldn't run you over to the museum?
>
> Did I misunderstand?

I think either FBO will give you a crew car or potentially drop you over
there. Signature had said to Margy (prior to the opening) that they would
have a special shuttle. However, that all seems to have evaporated in
the mean time. Our friend who showed up on opening day, and some other
people who arrived about the same time destined for the museum just all
traveled down in the crew car. Margy took our friend back to Signature.

We've not pushed the idea with Hawthorne. It's a shame you can't taxi
right up to the building though. The excuse they give is lame...that the
taxiway crosses a road. However, this road is inside a gate you need
a pass for, so frankly I don't know why a pair of stop signs and an "Aircraft
have Right of Way" sign doesn't suffice here like it does elsewhere.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
>Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
>accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite

The National Warplane Museum is right next door to the FBO at Elmira.
However, considering how much financial trouble they appeared to be in
last time I looked, I wouldn't bet on them still being in business next
time you fly there.

The Canadian National Aviation Museum
http://www.aviation.nmstc.ca/eng/english_home.html
is at Rockcliffe Airport in Ottawa, and it appears you can taxi over, but
I've never tried it.


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[Drew Dalgleish]

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 22:01:09 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
>National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
>this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
>ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
>aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
>Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
>accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
>museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
>in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
>So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
>directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those of
>us who might actually fly in!
>
>1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
>right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
>Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
>locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
>giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
>See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
>2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
>located on the old Forbes Field air base.
>See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
>3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but very
>good.
>See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
>4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
>is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing annual
>fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
>See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
>5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
>accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
>on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
>us over to the museum.
>See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
>Can you add any more to this list?
>--
>Jay Honeck
>Iowa City, IA
>Pathfinder N56993
>www.AlexisParkInn.com
>"Your Aviation Destination
The Canadian warplane museum is at the Hamilton ont. airport

The Canadian bushplane museum is on the St. Marys river in Sault Ste.
Maria. Free docking if you have a floatplane. ;)
Drew Dalgleish

[Larry Smith]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Yep, Jay, WNC Air Museum is in Hendersonville, NC and is accessible by two
runways --- 0A7 and the Museum's own sod field. www.wncairmuseum.com

[Rich S.]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
>
> Can you add any more to this list?

Good project for this summer!

I did fly to the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field to attend an event, but
there was no parking that day due to a couple of biplanes hawking rides. I
seem to remember that aircraft parking is available on non-event days but
only with prior notice.

I will check out the Warbird museum at Olympia, Wa. and report back.

Dittos with McMinnville, Ore. and the Spruce Goose, but I expect Ousterhout
or Springer will report in before I do.

Rich S.

[David Brooks]

Around here: The Museum of Flight, the small Olympia museum, and the
Tillamook hangar.

For the MoF, I'm not certain that transient parking is usually available in
the SW corner of BFI, but I believe it is. If so, you can park in the shadow
of the Concorde, but you do have to walk around the building to the street
side right now.

-- David Brooks

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jim]

> The Canadian bushplane museum is on the St. Marys river in Sault Ste.
> Maria. Free docking if you have a floatplane. ;)
> Drew Dalgleish

I was there last summer. Great museum with plenty of history of the
Canadian fire-bombers and some great sea-planes/bush planes you won't see
anywhere else. (several that are open to you to crawl around on/in) But I
thought that they closed the sea-plane base down or I would have mentioned
it. Anyway, I'm headed back next summer. Weekend trip to Mackinac Island
with a day trip up to Sault Ste. Marie (UP MI side) and a taxi ride over to
the museum.
--
Jim Burns III

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[Larry Smith]

> > Can you add any more to this list?
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
>
> Yep, Jay, WNC Air Museum is in Hendersonville, NC and is accessible by two
> runways --- 0A7 and the Museum's own sod field. www.wncairmuseum.com

I guess the museum is still at Santa Monica, CA and the Planes of Fame
Museum in Chino, both on airports.

[Kent]

"> Can you add any more to this list?
> --


New England Air Museum at Bradley International Airport, (BDL) Windsor
Locks, CT. They have a website ,but it appears to be down.

Kent

[James Blakely]

The Warbird Museum in Titusville, FL is accessible from GA.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Michael 182]

Reading Airport, Reading PA has a museum you can easily walk to from one of
the FBOs.

Also Republic on LI - although I don't know wabout taxiing to the museum.

And Rhinebeck, NY - never been there but I've heard it's great.



"James Blakely" > wrote in
message ...
> The Warbird Museum in Titusville, FL is accessible from GA.
>
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> > In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> > National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly
into
> > this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> > ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible
by
> > aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
> >
> > Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really
ARE
> > accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> > museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
> Museum
> > in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
> >
> > So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for
museum
> > directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by
those
> of
> > us who might actually fly in!
> >
> > 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> > right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> > Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> > locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is
a
> > giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> > See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
> >
> > 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great
museum
> > located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> > See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
> >
> > 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
> very
> > good.
> > See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
> >
> > 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association.
This
> > is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
> annual
> > fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> > See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
> >
> > 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> > accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to
park
> > on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they
drove
> > us over to the museum.
> > See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
> >
> > Can you add any more to this list?
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
> >
> >
>
>

[Mike O'Malley]

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
>
> Also the Kalamazoo air museum is on the field and I can't remember if I got a
lift
> over there from the FBO or not.
>

The musuem has a small ramp for visiting aircraft. At least last time I was
there 2 years ago (wow, was it THAT long ago..)

--
Mike

[Hamish Reid]

In article <FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those of
> us who might actually fly in!

[...snip...]

>
> Can you add any more to this list?

Castle Air Museum, <http://www.elite.net/castle-air/>. Right next door
-- easy walking distance -- to KMER (Castle Airport, Merced), the old
Castle Airforce Base. (yes, you get 11,000' of runway to play with and
an apron built for dozens of B-52s on the way to the tiedowns).

The mueum itself is great -- everything from an SR-71 and a B-52 to a
Cessna "Blue Canoe". I've spent several days there... (but the food
there is dreadful).

Hamish

[Caleb]

The CAFÉ museum at Galveston and the Museum at Midland are both accessible.
I like the on in Galveston better, but the one in Midland has more made up
exhibits.

Cheers
Jeff
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Errol Groff]

The Shuttleworth Trust Museum, Biggleswade UK.

Grass runway as I recall but it has been at least 15 years since I was
there.

Errol Groff
Instructor, Machine Tool Department
H.H. Ellis Tech
613 Upper Maple Street
Danielson, CT 06239

860 774 8511 x1811

http://pages.cthome.net/errol.groff/

http://newenglandmodelengineeringsociety.org/





On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 23:32:10 GMT, "James Blakely"
> wrote:

>The Warbird Museum in Titusville, FL is accessible from GA.
>
>
>"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
>> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
>> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
>> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
>> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
>> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>>
>> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
>> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
>> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
>Museum
>> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>>
>> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
>> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
>of
>> us who might actually fly in!
>>
>> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
>> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
>> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
>> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
>> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
>> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>>
>> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
>> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
>> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>>
>> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
>very
>> good.
>> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>>
>> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
>> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
>annual
>> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
>> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>>
>> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
>> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
>> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
>> us over to the museum.
>> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>>
>> Can you add any more to this list?
>> --
>> Jay Honeck
>> Iowa City, IA
>> Pathfinder N56993
>> www.AlexisParkInn.com
>> "Your Aviation Destination"
>>
>>
>

[Bela P. Havasreti]

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:57:50 -0800, "Rich S."
> wrote:

>"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
>news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
>>
>> Can you add any more to this list?
>
>Good project for this summer!
>
>I did fly to the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field to attend an event, but
>there was no parking that day due to a couple of biplanes hawking rides. I
>seem to remember that aircraft parking is available on non-event days but
>only with prior notice.
>
>I will check out the Warbird museum at Olympia, Wa. and report back.
>
>Dittos with McMinnville, Ore. and the Spruce Goose, but I expect Ousterhout
>or Springer will report in before I do.
>
>Rich S.
>

Museum of Flight at BFI no longer allows general parking on their ramp
(or so the individual on the phone told me during the 100 years of
flight centennial event).

I've parked at the Warbird Museum in Olympia but it was during a
"Classic Aircraft Fly-In". I don't know if they allow parking on
their ramp when such an event is not underway....

At McMinnville, the museum is across the street from the airport.
You can park where ever you want (within reason) on the airport
and it's a relatively easy walk to the museum.

Bela P. Havasreti

[Dave S]

The Lone Star Flight Museum is on the flight line at Galveston (GLS). Im
not sure if access is permitted from the line, but even if its not, the
walk is reasonable in my opinion, even with kids.

Also, I believe there is some sort of Museum at Addison, Texas in the
DFW area (ADS). It is a short walk (again even with kids).

The Confederate Air Force Museum at Midland Airfield, Midland, Texas, is
NOT directly accessible (to the public) from the line, but the FBO has a
courtesy car they can lend you.

I guess you are right, most of these places dont have turnstiles at the
hangar door, but rather are focused on getting the lay public interested
in aviation, and have therefore put the turnstiles on THAT side of the
building :)

Dave.

Jay Honeck wrote:
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?

[Jim Austin]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Can you add any more to this list?

Check this one out, I taxied right up to the front door and enjoyed the
visit:

http://www.tnairmuseum.com/index2.html

Jim Austin
Easley, SC

[Mike Weller]

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 22:01:09 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:



>Can you add any more to this list?

The Staggerwing Museum at Tullahoma, Tennessee (THA).

Mike Weller

[John Stricker]

Don't forget the Mid America Air Museum in Liberal, KS. It has about 100
aircraft in it and on the ramp and is located on the airport at Liberal.
One of Max Conrad's record breaking Comanches is on display there.

John Stricker

"MC" > wrote in message
...
> > 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> > right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> > Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> > locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is
a
> > giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> > See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
> >
> > 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great
museum
> > located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> > See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
> >
> > 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
> very
> > good.
> > See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
> >
> > 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association.
This
> > is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
> annual
> > fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> > See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
> >
> > 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> > accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to
park
> > on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they
drove
> > us over to the museum.
> > See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
> >
> > Can you add any more to this list?
>
>
> Kansas City, MO (MKC) Airline History Museum
> http://www.airlinehistorymuseum.com/
>
>

[Remi]

How about the Mid-America Air Museum in Liberal, KS?
http://www.swaviator.com/html/issueON99/liberal.html

Remi
Overland Park, KS

> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Ross]

You can taxi over to the Canadian National Aviation Museum and park out at
the back, they will then come and open a back door and escort you to the
front to purchase your entrance ticket. Only problem is that there is no
instrument approach.

There is also the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum in Hamilton where you
can taxi up and park on the museum ramp. If you visit the museum they will
also waive the landing fees.

Ross
"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
> >Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really
ARE
> >accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
>
> The National Warplane Museum is right next door to the FBO at Elmira.
> However, considering how much financial trouble they appeared to be in
> last time I looked, I wouldn't bet on them still being in business next
> time you fly there.
>
> The Canadian National Aviation Museum
> http://www.aviation.nmstc.ca/eng/english_home.html
> is at Rockcliffe Airport in Ottawa, and it appears you can taxi over, but
> I've never tried it.
>
>
> --
> "The magic of usenet has never been its technology; and, only in part, its
> reach. Its magic -- its power -- is based on the very real human
connections
> that form 'round its threads of conversation... the relationships that are
> kindled, flamed and, on occasion, extinguished and mourned." -deCadmus

[John Clear]

In article <wJHKb.239677$8y1.1083757@attbi_s52>,
Michael 182 > wrote:
>
>And Rhinebeck, NY - never been there but I've heard it's great.
>

The museum and flying displays are great. The runway there is not
up to modern standards, to put it mildly. The runway has a hill
at one end, a big dip in the middle, trees all around and a gravel
road running across the middle of it. IIRC, the length is in the
1500ft range, but don't quote me on that. I've never flown in,
just watched the show from the ground.

Most of the planes that fly at Rhinebeck have no brakes, and very
slow speeds. The procedure for the show planes is to taxi up to
the top of the hill and then take off down the hill and be airborne
before the road, because that is where the runway starts up hill
again. Landings are made just after the road, with wing walkers
(runners actually) to catch the inevitable ground loops. The planes
are light enough that a wing walker grabbing a wing can keep the
plane from ground looping.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.panix.com/~jac

[Dan Luke]

Kermit Weeks' Fantasy of Flight, near Lakeland, Fl.

[Del Rawlins]

On 06 Jan 2004 01:01 PM, Jay Honeck posted the following:

> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really
> ARE accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two
> favorite museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air
> Command Museum in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.

There is a hangar at PJY that deserves to be on this list. Never made
it down there, but I've seen the pictures. 8^)

----------------------------------------------------
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[Blanche]

There's a small WWII museum at PUB (Pueblo, CO). It's right behind
the FBO.

[Blanche]

Jay:

Can you (or someone else) collect all these museums and post them
on a website?

thanks

[Ronald Gardner]

As of a month ago, they are still open, and reported they had for now gotten
over the money crunch.

Ron

Paul Tomblin wrote:

> In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
> >Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> >accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
>
> The National Warplane Museum is right next door to the FBO at Elmira.
> However, considering how much financial trouble they appeared to be in
> last time I looked, I wouldn't bet on them still being in business next
> time you fly there.
>
> The Canadian National Aviation Museum
> http://www.aviation.nmstc.ca/eng/english_home.html
> is at Rockcliffe Airport in Ottawa, and it appears you can taxi over, but
> I've never tried it.
>
> --
> "The magic of usenet has never been its technology; and, only in part, its
> reach. Its magic -- its power -- is based on the very real human connections
> that form 'round its threads of conversation... the relationships that are
> kindled, flamed and, on occasion, extinguished and mourned." -deCadmus

[Steve Sharp]

Tennessee Museum Of Aviation at Sevierville, TN (Gatlinburg-Pigeon Forge
Airport GKT)
P-47 Thunderbolt - sometimes 2 of them,
MIGs
T-6
T-28
Other items of interest as well

http://www.tnairmuseum.com/

--
Steve Sharp
N35 59.72
W083 59 37

[Mike Adams]

Planes of Fame also has a branch in northern Arizona, at the Valle airport
near the Grand Canyon. I haven't been there, but have heard good reports
from friends who have.

http://www.planesoffame.org/valle.htm

Mike

"Larry Smith" > wrote:

> I guess the museum is still at Santa Monica, CA and the Planes of Fame
> Museum in Chino, both on airports.

[Casey Wilson]

>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

Lone Star Flight Museum, Galveston, Texas, KGLS.

From their website at www.lsfm.org -- "Fly-in visits are encouraged--Unicom
123.05"

[Rich]

How about the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum, Hamilton Ontario - CYHM.

www.warplane.com

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01>...

>
> Can you add any more to this list?

[Peter R.]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Can you add any more to this list?

Palm Springs Air Museum, Palm Springs Airport, CA (KPSP)

http://www.air-museum.org/

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Peter










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[Drew Dalgleish]

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:07:31 -0600, "Jim" > wrote:

>> The Canadian bushplane museum is on the St. Marys river in Sault Ste.
>> Maria. Free docking if you have a floatplane. ;)
>> Drew Dalgleish
>
>I was there last summer. Great museum with plenty of history of the
>Canadian fire-bombers and some great sea-planes/bush planes you won't see
>anywhere else. (several that are open to you to crawl around on/in) But I
>thought that they closed the sea-plane base down or I would have mentioned
>it. Anyway, I'm headed back next summer. Weekend trip to Mackinac Island
>with a day trip up to Sault Ste. Marie (UP MI side) and a taxi ride over to
>the museum.
>--
>Jim Burns III

>Remove "nospam" to reply
>
>
I haven't been there yet but it's way up near the top of the list.
I've been told that if I fly in my plane becomes an exibit while I'm
there and if you're going in the back door so to speak it's free
admission.
Drew

[Brian Burger]

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, David Brooks wrote:

> Around here: The Museum of Flight, the small Olympia museum, and the
> Tillamook hangar.

The Olympia museum is a nice small museum, and there's an FBO right next
door with lots of parking. Earlier this year 14 Canadian aircraft
cluttered the place up, and they still had room for more. (Victoria
Flying Club group flyout; the entire Club rental fleet plus three or four private
planes! About 40 people...)

Olympia museum also has impressively deep pockets - they restore jets to
flight status, and then fly them, and none of that is cheap! Nice folks,
too.

Brian.

>
> For the MoF, I'm not certain that transient parking is usually available in
> the SW corner of BFI, but I believe it is. If so, you can park in the shadow
> of the Concorde, but you do have to walk around the building to the street
> side right now.
>
> -- David Brooks
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> > In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> > National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> > this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> > ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> > aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
> >
> > Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> > accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> > museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
> Museum
> > in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
> >
> > So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> > directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
> of
> > us who might actually fly in!
> >
> > 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> > right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> > Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> > locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> > giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> > See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
> >
> > 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> > located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> > See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
> >
> > 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
> very
> > good.
> > See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
> >
> > 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> > is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
> annual
> > fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> > See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
> >
> > 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> > accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> > on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> > us over to the museum.
> > See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
> >
> > Can you add any more to this list?
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Brian Burger]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Jim Austin wrote:

> Jay Honeck wrote:
> > Can you add any more to this list?
>
> Check this one out, I taxied right up to the front door and enjoyed the
> visit:
>
> http://www.tnairmuseum.com/index2.html

Cool site, but too bad it seems to be solid Flash from one end to the
other.

It does look like a good museum, though...

Brian.

[Jim Fisher]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> Can you add any more to this list?

http://www.southernmuseumofflight.org/ Located at the airport in
Birmingham, Alabama. Two blocks from Birmingham International Airport.

Right up the road form me in Tullahoma, Tennessee is the Staggerwing museum.
www.staggerwing.com. It's a 20 minute flight for me. Never made it. Will
one day soon. Other than pretty much any low wing plane, the Staggerwing is
the sexiest plane ever made.

You USED to be able to fly into the National Naval Aviation Museum down in
Pensacola. This has gotta be one of the best, highest quality museums ever
made. Sure naval.aviation.museum/intro.html. What a shame that we can't
fly there anymore. But there's still a ramp that goes right up to the
entrance so there may be hope one day that we can fly there again.

--
Jim Fisher

[Eric Miller]

"Michael 182" > wrote in message
news:wJHKb.239677$8y1.1083757@attbi_s52...
>
> And Rhinebeck, NY - never been there but I've heard it's great.

Rhinebeck is a great flying museum... they don't just have vintage aircraft,
they FLY them.
Not many other places you can hear the sound of a rotary engine and the
smell of burning castor oil :-)

Website: http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/

And from their FAQ:
Q: Can I land my aircraft at the Aerodrome?
A: . We discourage general aviation aircraft, but welcome antiques as long
as their performance is compatible with the limitations of our airfield.
Feel free to bcall the Aerodrome at (845) 752-3200 to discuss the
particulars of your aircraft and our airfield.

Eric

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane?

Charlotte, NC

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:10:21 -0500, "Larry Smith"
> wrote in Message-Id:
>:

>I guess the museum is still at Santa Monica, CA

http://www.museumofflying.com/

http://www.smmirror.com/volume5/issue23/museum_of_flying.asp
Kathleen Herd Masser
Mirror contributing writer

Work will begin early next month on the new Museum of Flying at the
Santa Monica Airport. The original museum closed in July 2002.
The new location is a hanger just east of the Supermarine building
that housed the old facility. Exhibits will highlight the history of
the airport and its role in the early development of commercial and
military aviation.
Long before it became a day-tripper destination for Promenade
shoppers and a more permanent haven for anyone with a million or two
to plunk down on a cramped bungalow, Santa Monica was at the heart of
a burgeoning aviation industry. The first plane to circumnavigate the
globe was built here, as were countless World War II military
aircraft.
Golf course mogul and Supermarine president David Price has resumed
his post as chairman of the museum’s board. In a recently released
statement, Price said, “The Santa Monica City Council, Airport
Commission, Airport Director, and Airport Manager were all
instrumental in helping to secure a new location for the Museum in
Santa Monica and were especially helpful in assisting with identifying
and approving a new location that will allow the Museum to remain a
focal point of the airport. We are truly grateful for their efforts.”
The museum will open to the public in 2004.

[John Clonts]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
[snip]
> Can you add any more to this list?


Lone Star Flight Museum - Galveston Tx http://www.lsfm.org/
Highland Lakes Squadron CAF Museum - Burnet Tx
http://www.gtwn-sqr.com/caf/index-1.htm

Cheers!
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Can you add any more to this list?

The Owl's Head Transportation Museum in Owl's Head Maine (RKD). There's also a
small one at Colleg Park, Maryland, if the TSA ever opens the airport back up.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[G.R. Patterson III]

John Clear wrote:
>
> The runway there is not
> up to modern standards, to put it mildly. The runway has a hill
> at one end, a big dip in the middle, trees all around and a gravel
> road running across the middle of it. IIRC, the length is in the
> 1500ft range, but don't quote me on that. I've never flown in,
> just watched the show from the ground.

For what it's worth, I took a look and decided that getting my Maule out of there
with my family on board and half tanks would be very dicey.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[Jessica]

Jay Honeck wrote:

>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.

Add the Mid Atlantic Air Museum in Reading, Pennsylvania, Carl Spatz Field
(KRDG) to your list.
http://www.maam.org/ Request taxi to the museum. Open daily. Don't miss
their WW II weekends, usually the first weekend of June. "The Museum's
collection includes award-winning warbirds, classic airliners, rare & unusual
military and civilian aircraft and historic exhibits."

Also, the New England Air Museum in Windsor Locks, Connecticut, Bradley Intl
Airport (KBDL). http://www.neam.org/cont_about.htm Inquire FBO about a
courtesy shuttle to the museum. Open daily.

Also, The Aviation Hall of Fame & Museum of New Jersey at Teterboro Airport,
(KTEB). http://www.njahof.org/ Open Tues-Sun 10-4. Not sure about ramp or
courtesy shuttles, KTEB can be extremely busy, so best to call ahead.

Hope this helps !

[Craig Prouse]

In article <FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane?

Hiller Aviation Museum at KSQL on the San Francisco Peninsula.

http://www.hiller.org/

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:10:21 -0500, "Larry Smith"
> wrote in Message-Id:
>:

>I guess the museum is still at Santa Monica, CA and the Planes of Fame
>Museum in Chino, both on airports.

Here's another:
http://www.aerospacemuseum.org/gillespie/

Gillespie Field Annex
From a small one-hangar beginning, the San Diego Aerospace Museum's
annex at Gillespie Field has grown to become an integral part of the
Museum's aircraft restoration and replica reproduction program.
Staffed mainly by volunteers, the Facility has produced some of SDAM's
finest work.

Currently under construction are replicas of the Mead Primary Glider (
based on a German design), and a World War One Sopwith Pup fighter.
Both replicas are being built using the same techniques employed
during their original construction.

Of local significance, a Convair F-102A Delta Dagger recently
completed restoration at the Annex. This aircraft was built in San
Diego at Convair's Lindbergh Field plant in the mid-1950s. Many of the
volunteers who participated in preservation efforts actually worked on
the F-102 while employed by Convair/General Dynamics.

Visitor Information
Monday-Wednesday-Friday from 8:00am to 3:00pm

The Annex is located on the north side of Gillespie Field.

Phone (619) 234-8291 for information.

There is no charge for admission but donations are accepted.

[Dave S]

Jay.. I had no idea there was this many museums and collections out
there on-field. I took the liberty of contacting the webmaster at 100
dollar hamburger.com and asked if he would be interested in adding a
museum category to the other existing categories on his site: food,
cars, resorts and Golf links.

I have madea a point of visiting several places that I discovered as a
result of pireps on that website and have rarely been disappointed.

Below is what I sent to him... If any of you feel agree, or think this
is a good idea, consider dropping a line - remember be supportive, not
like a demanding airport-mafia don... <grin>. Email is {{ Pirep "at" 100
dollar hamburger "dot" com )) Make the usual changes to develop a valid
email address.

<paste>
Question/suggestion...

A discussion erupted on some of the aviation Usenet newsgroups with
regards to Airports with aviation museums on the premises, specifically
those that could be flown to, and easily accessed from the ramp. This
developed from a discussion of the newly opened National Air Space
Museum at Dulles, which was NOT easily accessible to GA.

Would you feel it inappropriate, or a burden to consider adding a
category to your 100 Dollar Hamburger site that addresses On-Airport
publicly accessible aviation museums?

I was originally referred to/enlighted about the existence of your
website by other fellow Usenet posters, and I can't help but think that
this added category might increase your websites already wonderful
usefulness.

Jay Honeck wrote:
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?

[Ross Oliver]

Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
>Can you add any more to this list?


Here are the west coast fly-in musesums I recall off
the top of my head (with some help from Google):


Hiller Aviation Museum, San Carlos, CA
www.hiller.org

Pacific Coast Air Museum, Santa Rosa, CA
pacificcoastairmuseum.org

Castle Air Museum, A****er, CA
www.elite.net/castle-air/

Wings of History Air Museum, San Martin, CA
www.wingsofhistory.org

Planes of Fame, Chino, CA
www.planesoffame.org

Aviation Musuem of Santa Paula, Santa Paula, CA
www.amszp.org

Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA
www.museumofflying.com
(has been closed for several years, but website says reopening in 2004)

Estrella Warbirds Museum, Paso Robles, CA
www.ewarbirds.org

Western Museum of Flight, Hawthorne, CA
www.wmof.com

Palm Springs Air Museum, Palm Springs, CA
www.air-museum.org

Santa Maria Museum of Flight, Santa Maria, CA
www.smmof.org

Museum of Flight, Seattle, WA
www.museumofflight.org

Oregon Air & Space, Eugene, OR
www.oasm.org

Evergreen Aviation Museum, McMinnville, OR
home of the Spruce Goose
www.sprucegoose.org


There's a museum at some small airport around Las Cruces, NM, I visited
one time, but can't remember the name.


Ross Oliver

[Cy Galley]

There is also a soaring museum at Morarity, NM and there are taxiways all
over the place.

"Ross Oliver" > wrote in message
...
> Jay Honeck > wrote:
> >
> >Can you add any more to this list?
>
>
> Here are the west coast fly-in musesums I recall off
> the top of my head (with some help from Google):
>
>
> Hiller Aviation Museum, San Carlos, CA
> www.hiller.org
>
> Pacific Coast Air Museum, Santa Rosa, CA
> pacificcoastairmuseum.org
>
> Castle Air Museum, A****er, CA
> www.elite.net/castle-air/
>
> Wings of History Air Museum, San Martin, CA
> www.wingsofhistory.org
>
> Planes of Fame, Chino, CA
> www.planesoffame.org
>
> Aviation Musuem of Santa Paula, Santa Paula, CA
> www.amszp.org
>
> Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA
> www.museumofflying.com
> (has been closed for several years, but website says reopening in 2004)
>
> Estrella Warbirds Museum, Paso Robles, CA
> www.ewarbirds.org
>
> Western Museum of Flight, Hawthorne, CA
> www.wmof.com
>
> Palm Springs Air Museum, Palm Springs, CA
> www.air-museum.org
>
> Santa Maria Museum of Flight, Santa Maria, CA
> www.smmof.org
>
> Museum of Flight, Seattle, WA
> www.museumofflight.org
>
> Oregon Air & Space, Eugene, OR
> www.oasm.org
>
> Evergreen Aviation Museum, McMinnville, OR
> home of the Spruce Goose
> www.sprucegoose.org
>
>
> There's a museum at some small airport around Las Cruces, NM, I visited
> one time, but can't remember the name.
>
>
> Ross Oliver
>

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.

Champlin Museum at Falcon Field in Mesa, AZ --until they packed up and moved
:~(

[Jay Honeck]

I'm compiling the list now!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[ajohnson]

> Jay Honeck > wrote:
> >
> >Can you add any more to this list?
>
>

The Peddycord Foundation air museum in Asheboro, NC.
Two hangars full of aircraft and memorabilia, and the
aircraft are all flyable (and flown).

--
Allen Johnson

[Darrell Clay]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01>...
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>

It's not a full "museum," but the terminal at Wheeling, WV (KHLG) has
some wonderful items from the Golden Age of Aviation, including a
bunch of items used by flyers in WWI. IIRC, there were some pilot
uniforms that led the collection.

Darrell Clay
Cleveland, OH

[John H. Phillips]

Hanger 25 in Big Spring, TX
http://www.hangar25airmuseum.com/main/index.asp

Frontiers of Flight in Dallas will be opening soon
http://www.flightmuseum.com/

The Texas Air Museum in Slaton, TX
http://www.swaviator.com/html/issueMA02/Slaton3402.html

Vintage Flying Museum in FtWorth, TX - "Chuckie" B-17
http://www.vintageflyingmuseum.org/
--
John H. Phillips
Dallas, Texas
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:%4VKb.757859$HS4.5985745@attbi_s01...
> I'm compiling the list now!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Larry Dighera]

On 7 Jan 2004 07:54:50 -0800, (Darrell Clay) wrote in
Message-Id: >:

>It's not a full "museum," but the terminal at Wheeling, WV (KHLG) has
>some wonderful items from the Golden Age of Aviation, including a
>bunch of items used by flyers in WWI.

Yes. There's a very interesting display at KSNA also:

http://www.ocair.com/newsreleases/news_release_march_16_1998.htm
SANTA ANA, CA – John Wayne Airport is pleased to announce that its
administration building has been officially dedicated the "Eddie
Martin Building" and is now home to the Eddie Martin Collection
premiering early Orange County aviation artifacts and memorabilia.

[Larry Smith]

"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> > In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> > National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly
into
> > this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> > ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible
by
> > aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
> >
> > Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really
ARE
> > accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> > museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
> Museum
> > in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> Champlin Museum at Falcon Field in Mesa, AZ --until they packed up and
moved
> :~(

A big thing in these woods was to fly to Middlesboro, KY and see Glacier
Girl, the P-38 Lightning melted out of the deep Greenland Icecap, where she
lay buried since the forties. I take it she's still there, one of only a
half-dozen remaining Lightnings.
http://www.p38.com/glaciergirl/default.html

[Tom]

Atterbury-Bakalar Air Museum
http://atterburybakalarairmuseum.org/
Columbus, Indiana - BAK

It's very small but still has some interesting exhibits. There is a
restaurant in the terminal building but be advised that it's closed on
Sundays.

Tom

[Peter R.]

Jim Weir ) wrote:

> Having said that, I do have a question for the group. How many here know what
> "CTRL-A, CTRL-C" does? (It is a rhetorical question.)

Select all, copy.

--
Peter












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[Snowbird]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01>...
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list.
<...>
> Can you add any more to this list?

TSK, Jay, and you've even been there!

The Historic Aircraft Restoration Museum at Creve Coeur, MO.
Fly in, land on pavement or grass. If you come on Sunday
join the throng for lunch, $5 for a good carnivorous meal
that the charge must barely cover. Catch an eyeful of more
antique rare and homebuilt aircraft flying around than you'll
see at most fly-ins.

The other Saturday was a bit thin. Between Christmas and New
Years, and a kicking wind. We drove up while our daughter
napped. I taxiied to the end of the runway, mag prob, taxiied
back, failed to find the problem, watched our daughter while DH
found the problem (shorted top plug -- but I couldn't see it.
would I have had sense enough to swap plugs between cylinders
were I on my own? hope so, next time), taxiied out for a couple
short hops to be sure the problem was fixed and our friends could
go flying.

Only there an hour, hour and a half, maybe. Still saw two
Stearmans and a Pitts, flown by people who can handle a 20 kt
xwind on pavement dragging tail, and make it look simple.

Cheers,
Sydney

[Jim Weir]

My dumb. I meant "CTRL-A, DEL, then reply".

Ya got me.

Jim



->Jim Weir ) wrote:
->
->> Having said that, I do have a question for the group. How many here know
what
->> "CTRL-A, CTRL-C" does? (It is a rhetorical question.)
->
->Select all, copy.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[G.R. Patterson III]

Eric Miller wrote:
>
> Rhinebeck is a great flying museum... they don't just have vintage aircraft,
> they FLY them.

Yes, and they also have a static museum a short walk up the hill.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[ShawnD2112]

I can think of two, one worth crossing the pond for, the other maybe not
worth crossing the street for:

Crossing the Pond: Duxford, Imperial War Musuem, Cambridgeshire, England
Built on the WWI aerodrome (subsequently used by RAF SPits and USAAF
Mustangs), this living museum uses all of the original hangars for a
collection that is part static display, part restoration workshop, part
active hangar for some 50 or so flying warbrids. This is Mecca!!

Crossing the Street: Can't remember the name but its the museum at Kissimmi
next to Warbirds, the T-6 guys.
Don't remember much about it except it's worth doing if you're already there
but I wouldn't make a point of flying in.

Shawn

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:36:04 -0800, Jim Weir > wrote
in Message-Id: >:

>Tallmanz on John Wayne in Santa Ana CA.

My understanding is, that after the fire in the '80s (?) consumed much
of the TallMantz collection of aircraft, the remaining were
transported to the air museum in San Diego. At any rate, I don't
recall seeing a museum on the KSNA airport since Frank Tallman's last
flight mistaking Trubuco Canyon for Ortega Canyon in '78.

[Jim Weir]

Could be. I (obviously) haven't been there in a hell of a long time.

Jim


Larry Dighera >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:36:04 -0800, Jim Weir > wrote
->in Message-Id: >:
->
->>Tallmanz on John Wayne in Santa Ana CA.
->
->My understanding is, that after the fire in the '80s (?) consumed much
->of the TallMantz collection of aircraft, the remaining were
->transported to the air museum in San Diego.




Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Russell Kent]

Dave S wrote:

> Also, I believe there is some sort of Museum at Addison, Texas in the
> DFW area (ADS). It is a short walk (again even with kids).

That would be the Cavanaugh Flight Museum.
http://www.cavanaughflightmuseum.com/

Russell Kent

[David Brooks]

"Bela P. Havasreti" > wrote in message
...
> Museum of Flight at BFI no longer allows general parking on their ramp
> (or so the individual on the phone told me during the 100 years of
> flight centennial event).

It is kind of ironic that http://www.museumofflight.org/visit/ doesn't tell
you how to fly there.

-- David Brooks

[Frank Castronovo]

1. Air Heritage Musem, Beaver County Airport (BVI), Beaver Falls, PA

2. Piper Museum, William T. Piper Memorial Airport (LHV), Lock Haven, PA

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:FeGKb.751015$HS4.5883554@attbi_s01...
> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those
of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jack I]

You used to be able to taxi up to the Yankee Air Force building at
Willow Run (YIP) near Detroit. When I went there I saw people
wrenching on WW2 bombers. I heard they had building problems,
not sure what the status is now.

Jack

[Ron Lee]

Liberal Kansas (KLBL). SW part of Kansas but excellent museum with
lots of homebuilts as well.

Ron Lee

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jim Weir wrote:
>
> Having said that, I do have a question for the group. How many here know what
> "CTRL-A, CTRL-C" does? (It is a rhetorical question.)

On what O/S?

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[Peter Duniho]

"David Brooks" > wrote in message
...
> It is kind of ironic that http://www.museumofflight.org/visit/ doesn't
tell
> you how to fly there.

Ironic? Given that (according to Bela) they no longer allow you to park at
the museum, I think it makes perfect sense that they don't bother to tell
you how to fly there. :)

That said, from their FAQ:

Q. Can I fly in and park my aircraft at the Museum while I visit?
A. Yes. We can accommodate several visiting aircraft. You must
contact our Security Department in advance to make arrangements.

If the person Bela talked to was correct, they ought to update their web
site.

Also, even if you can't fly in, it does seem a little silly that nowhere
obvious on their web site do they mention that they are actually located AT
an airport. The "can I fly in" question implies that, but still doesn't
mention at *which* airport they are, not in that particular Q&A (the first
question does mention it, but it wouldn't be where you'd look if you were
thinking of flying in).

You can find references to Boeing Field on the web site, but you either have
to use their search feature to find the pages, or go browsing around in
non-obvious places to find the references. And you have to suspect in the
first place that it's located at an airport, since there doesn't seem to be
any mention of that in the top-level pages for visitor information.

I don't know if it really qualifies as ironic, but for sure it's pretty lame
that they aren't more forthcoming about the airport-based nature of the
museum. Even if you can't fly in.

Pete

[Javier Henderson]

Peter R. > writes:

> Jim Weir ) wrote:
>
> > Having said that, I do have a question for the group. How many here know what
> > "CTRL-A, CTRL-C" does? (It is a rhetorical question.)
>
> Select all, copy.

Move cursor to beginning of line, start new command if you use emacs.

-jav

[David Reinhart]

Sorry if these are dupes, but I'm getting in late and looked at about half the
posts.

There's a small museum at South Jersey Regional (VAY).

There's also one at Cape May County Airport, Cape May, NJ. (WWD).

Dave Reinhart


Jay Honeck wrote:

> In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly into
> this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible by
> aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
>
> Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really ARE
> accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command Museum
> in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
>
> So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for museum
> directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by those of
> us who might actually fly in!
>
> 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is a
> giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
>
> 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great museum
> located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
>
> 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but very
> good.
> See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
>
> 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association. This
> is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing annual
> fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
>
> 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to park
> on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they drove
> us over to the museum.
> See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
>
> Can you add any more to this list?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

[Pete]

ditto on the dupes....

Then there's Ottawa Canada's great museum with an attached strip (short car
ride around the field to get to the museum enterence). Ottawa-Rockcliffe
Airport (CYRO) N45 27 37 W75 38 46
http://www.rfc.ca/NewSite/Arr_dep.htm
http://www.rfc.ca/
http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/eng/english_home.html

Cheers,
Pete
Europa Builder

"David Reinhart" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry if these are dupes, but I'm getting in late and looked at about half
the
> posts.
>
> There's a small museum at South Jersey Regional (VAY).
>
> There's also one at Cape May County Airport, Cape May, NJ. (WWD).
>
> Dave Reinhart
>
>
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> > In another post about the fabulous new Udvar-Hazy Center (part of the
> > National Air & Space Museum), frustration with not being able to fly
into
> > this terrific new facility was evident. I personally find it appallingly
> > ironic that museums which purport to glorify flight are not accessible
by
> > aircraft, despite being located on an airport.
> >
> > Which brings to the fore a question: How many aviation museums really
ARE
> > accessible by light plane? I know, for example, that my two favorite
> > museums (the Air Force Museum in Ohio, and the Strategic Air Command
Museum
> > in Nebraska) are NOT accessible by aircraft.
> >
> > So here's my contributions to this heroic list. Let's hear it for
museum
> > directors who have sense enough to make their airplanes viewable by
those of
> > us who might actually fly in!
> >
> > 1. Rantoul, Illinois. The Octave Chanute Aerospace Museum You can taxi
> > right up to this one, and park just a few dozen feet away from an F-14
> > Tomcat. (Sadly, when we were there last month they had the back door
> > locked, so we had to walk around to the front of the building. This is
a
> > giant hangar, so that was no small feat, with kids in tow...)
> > See it at: http://www.aeromuseum.org/
> >
> > 2. Topeka, Kansas. Combat Air Museum. Ditto above. Another great
museum
> > located on the old Forbes Field air base.
> > See it at http://www.combatairmuseum.org/
> >
> > 3. Greenfield Iowa. Iowa Aviation Museum and Hall of Fame. Small, but
very
> > good.
> > See it at http://www.flyingmuseum.com/
> >
> > 4. Ottumwa, Iowa. Airpower Museum and Antique Aircraft Association.
This
> > is on a small, private, grass strip which is home to the most amazing
annual
> > fly-in every summer. Call ahead for permission to land.
> > See it at http://www.aaa-apm.org/ .
> >
> > 5. Oshkosh, WI. EAA Airventure Museum. This one is only "sort of"
> > accessible by air. When I flew in during the winter in '95, I had to
park
> > on the opposite side of the airport (miles away) at Basler, and they
drove
> > us over to the museum.
> > See it at http://www.airventuremuseum.org/.
> >
> > Can you add any more to this list?
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Andrew Gideon]

David Brooks wrote:

> "Bela P. Havasreti" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Museum of Flight at BFI no longer allows general parking on their ramp
>> (or so the individual on the phone told me during the 100 years of
>> flight centennial event).
>
> It is kind of ironic that http://www.museumofflight.org/visit/ doesn't
> tell you how to fly there.

Even if one cannot fly right up to a museum, it seems reasonable that "how
to get here by air" should be a part of any aviation museum's web site.
I've suggested this to:

http://www.cradleofaviation.org/

to little effect, unfortunately.

Another museum on an airport's grounds is:

http://www.njahof.org/

I've just recommended to them that they add "how to fly here" to their
"directions" page.

- Andrew

[Andrew Gideon]

Jessica wrote:


> Also, the New England Air Museum in Windsor Locks, Connecticut, Bradley
> Intl
> Airport (KBDL). http://www.neam.org/cont_about.htm Inquire FBO about a
> courtesy shuttle to the museum. Open daily.

I cannot get to this one right now. The DNS servers appear to be up, but
are not providing records (beyond glue) for this domain.

- Andrew

[Andrew Gideon]

David Reinhart wrote:

> There's also one at Cape May County Airport, Cape May, NJ. (WWD).

I seem to recall seeing a building labeled such when I was there. But what
was the name?

And - speaking of that neighborhood - isn't there something at Millville?

- Andrew

[Richard Russell]

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:47:39 -0500, Andrew Gideon >
wrote:

>David Reinhart wrote:
>
>> There's also one at Cape May County Airport, Cape May, NJ. (WWD).
>
>I seem to recall seeing a building labeled such when I was there. But what
>was the name?
>
>And - speaking of that neighborhood - isn't there something at Millville?
>
> - Andrew


The Cape May museum is called the NAS Wildwood Museum. It is small
but nice. In addition to the aircraft, they have a number of engines
of various types that can be viewed up close (radials to jets). Worth
a visit if you're in the area. http://www.usnasw.org/

Rich Russell

[David Reinhart]

It's the Wildwood Naval Air Station Museum. It's down the other end from the
FBO. Here's a link: http://www.usnasw.org/

I don't know about Millville. I don't live down that way. Those are just
stops along the way to other destinations.

Dave Reinhart


Andrew Gideon wrote:

> David Reinhart wrote:
>
> > There's also one at Cape May County Airport, Cape May, NJ. (WWD).
>
> I seem to recall seeing a building labeled such when I was there. But what
> was the name?
>
> And - speaking of that neighborhood - isn't there something at Millville?
>
> - Andrew

[Dan]

Larry Smith wrote:
....

> A big thing in these woods was to fly to Middlesboro, KY and see Glacier
> Girl, the P-38 Lightning melted out of the deep Greenland Icecap, where she
> lay buried since the forties. I take it she's still there, one of only a
> half-dozen remaining Lightnings.
> http://www.p38.com/glaciergirl/default.html
>
>
The Palm Springs Air Museum site says Glacier Girl will be flying later
this month (Jan 24th): http://www.air-museum.org/ and check the events
page.

[Jay Honeck]

> The Palm Springs Air Museum site says Glacier Girl will be flying later
> this month (Jan 24th): http://www.air-museum.org/ and check the events
> page.

The REAL question is: "Will Glacier Girl be flying into OSH 2004?"

I hope they make it this year -- they really disappointed a lot of their
supporters last year.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[JJS]

There is the Thomas P. Stafford Museum at the Weatherford, Ok.
airport, (F91). It is a very nice, fairly new, smaller sized museum
that is accessible from the G.A. ramp. In case you didn't know,
Stafford is a famous astronaut and Weatherford is his home town.

Here's a link to their website:
http://www.staffordairandspacemuseum.com/

Here's some photo's of displays:
http://www.staffordairandspacemuseum.com/airphotos.html

You can see everything in a few hours. It is well worth the trip if
you are in the general vicinity.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:%4VKb.757859$HS4.5985745@attbi_s01...
> I'm compiling the list now!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Pete]

Another great one is:

The Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum located at the Hamilton Airport CYHM
in Ontario, Canada (Near Buffalo NY).

http://www.warplane.com/pages/aboutus_mandate.html


Cheers,
Pete
Europa Builder




"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:%4VKb.757859$HS4.5985745@attbi_s01...
> I'm compiling the list now!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Martin Hotze]

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:20:38 -0500, Pete wrote:

>Another great one is:
>

Commemorative Air Force Museum, AZ wing; located on FFZ, Falcon Field, AZ
http://www.arizonawingcaf.org/


#m
--
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3358627.stm
A Brazilian judge has announced that US citizens will be fingerprinted and
photographed on entering the country. Judge Julier Sebastiao da Silva was
reacting to US plans to do the same to Brazilians entering the United States.

[rdant]

Well, the list would not be complete without including the first
living air museum at the Wright Brothers National Memorial
(http://www.airnav.com/airport/KFFA). The experience of flying into
Kitty Hawk and walking 300 yards to the memorial is like no other.