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Jay Honeck
January 12th 04, 02:16 PM
....that the 100th anniversary of flight is finally past?

Every flying magazine felt compelled (naturally) to write extensively about
the Wright Brothers for the past year, to the point where I simply didn't
want to read another article about them... Each magazine seemed to be
struggling to top the others in hyperbole and hoopla, and I guess I
experienced "Wright Overload"...

It's great to get the current batch of mags, and see some major lineage
devoted to covering the new Garmin G1000, and other modern flying-related
stuff. (Anyone else see the current article on the G1000 in Flying Mag?
What a panel!)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jack Allison
January 12th 04, 04:02 PM
Well Jay, since I only get three flying magazines (I know, and I call myself
a pilot...the nerve...) and one (Air & Space) isn't purely dedicated to
flying, I wasn't subjected to "Wright overload". Look at it this
way...you'll never have to worry about it again in your lifetime.

Cool articles on the G1000 though. Maybe some day I'll save up a month's
worth of my flying budget and rent something that has all them funny flat
panel. For now, I'm content with a panel mounted color Garman GPS.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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Ted Huffmire
January 12th 04, 04:12 PM
The John Travolta appearance was what really
put it over the top.

Yet I do echo the yearning for the wild west
frontier days before the FAA, TSA, medical
certificates, TFRs, background checks,
shoot-down authority, 8020-11 forms, etc.

Ted

Jay Honeck wrote:

> ...that the 100th anniversary of flight is finally past?
>
> Every flying magazine felt compelled (naturally) to write extensively about
> the Wright Brothers for the past year, to the point where I simply didn't
> want to read another article about them... Each magazine seemed to be
> struggling to top the others in hyperbole and hoopla, and I guess I
> experienced "Wright Overload"...
>
> It's great to get the current batch of mags, and see some major lineage
> devoted to covering the new Garmin G1000, and other modern flying-related
> stuff. (Anyone else see the current article on the G1000 in Flying Mag?
> What a panel!)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Ron Natalie
January 12th 04, 04:33 PM
"Ted Huffmire" > wrote in message ...
> The John Travolta appearance was what really
> put it over the top.
>
Hey, the AF1 low-pass made my day.

Jim Weir
January 12th 04, 05:17 PM
It wasn't so much the low pass, but the wing dip to the monument that got me.

Jim


"Ron Natalie" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->
->"Ted Huffmire" > wrote in message
...
->> The John Travolta appearance was what really
->> put it over the top.
->>
->Hey, the AF1 low-pass made my day.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Pat Thronson
January 13th 04, 12:41 AM
What approx. agl was AF1, any videos?

Pat thronson
ps Jim, obviously your 182 made the trip ok? I did not here you honk as you
went over lol.



"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> It wasn't so much the low pass, but the wing dip to the monument that got
me.
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Ron Natalie" >
> shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
>
> ->
> ->"Ted Huffmire" > wrote in message
> ...
> ->> The John Travolta appearance was what really
> ->> put it over the top.
> ->>
> ->Hey, the AF1 low-pass made my day.
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

Dan Thomas
January 13th 04, 12:52 AM
"Jack Allison" > wrote in message >...
> Well Jay, since I only get three flying magazines (I know, and I call myself
> a pilot...the nerve...)

Where do you guys get all the time to read so many magazines? I
quit trying a long time ago, especially since most had articles about
stuff I could never afford and will never fly. I prefer to read
textbooks that teach me to do better the things I CAN afford.

Dan

john smith
January 13th 04, 01:28 AM
Dan Thomas wrote:

> Where do you guys get all the time to read so many magazines?

What else is there to do in the bathroom?

K9 Lover
January 13th 04, 01:39 AM
> Every flying magazine felt compelled (naturally) to write extensively
about
> the Wright Brothers for the past year, to the point where I simply didn't
> want to read another article about them... Each magazine seemed to be
> struggling to top the others in hyperbole and hoopla, and I guess I
> experienced "Wright Overload"...

Of course, the greatest irony of all is that Richard Pearce beat them by the
best part of a year.

Jim Weir
January 13th 04, 01:41 AM
I'd guess that AF1 was somewhere between 700 and 1000 agl -- how about it, Ron?
The sheer size of that 747 makes it difficult to judge hat.



No, the 182 stayed in the barn. There is a name for people who don't like the
weather they see and just HAVE to be somewhere on a particular day. The word is
"dead".

I ran into some crap going around Salt Lake, and again around Kansas City that
would have brought the 182 to his knees...and me with him. I worked too hard on
that tin whore to turn him into beer cans that easily.

And, thinking we'd outrun the bugger coming home, we almost went off the road on
I-40 in Flagstaff with the same sort of clag.

Could we have made it? I'd have given you 99% that we would have, juking around
this and that end of the stuff. It is that last 1% that is going to get you,
and that is to be studiously avoided.

The Bronco did just fine, thank you.

Jim



"Pat Thronson" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->What approx. agl was AF1, any videos?
->
->Pat thronson
->ps Jim, obviously your 182 made the trip ok? I did not here you honk as you
->went over lol.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Mike Adams
January 13th 04, 03:26 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> Anyone else see the current article on the G1000 in Flying Mag?
> What a panel!)
>

Yes, and I thought it was very impressive. One thing I noted, that I
thought they made a great decision on, was making the user interface for
the GPS the same as the 430/530. Learning the operating concept and paging
structure for these systems has got to be one of the biggest challenges,
and for Garmin to realize that they are the default "industry standard" has
got to make the transition a no-brainer.

Mike

Ron Natalie
January 13th 04, 03:39 AM
"Pat Thronson" > wrote in message t...
> What approx. agl was AF1, any videos?

Well the sucker is big, so it probably looked lower than it really was. I'd guess about 1000'

Philip Sondericker
January 13th 04, 04:15 AM
in article , G.R. Patterson III at
wrote on 1/12/04 10:31 PM:

>
>
> K9 Lover wrote:
>>
>> Of course, the greatest irony of all is that Richard Pearce beat them by the
>> best part of a year.
>
> Prove it.

His actual name was Pearse, not Pearce. He himself conceded the first
"controlled" flight to the Wright Bros., since all of his early efforts
ended in crashes.

The most difficult thing about ascertaining Pearse's accomplishments is that
there is very little reliable eyewitness testimony. It seems to be limited
mostly to locals and schoolchildren who happened to be watching, and they
can seldom agree on exact dates.

G.R. Patterson III
January 13th 04, 06:31 AM
K9 Lover wrote:
>
> Of course, the greatest irony of all is that Richard Pearce beat them by the
> best part of a year.

Prove it.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Paul Sengupta
January 13th 04, 09:57 AM
"K9 Lover" > wrote in message
...
> > Every flying magazine felt compelled (naturally) to write extensively
> about
> > the Wright Brothers for the past year, to the point where I simply
didn't
> > want to read another article about them... Each magazine seemed to be
> > struggling to top the others in hyperbole and hoopla, and I guess I
> > experienced "Wright Overload"...
>
> Of course, the greatest irony of all is that Richard Pearce beat them by
the
> best part of a year.

And Gustav Weisskopf (Gustave Whitehead) by 2 years. Maybe.

http://www.deepsky.com/~firstflight/
http://www.brucemuseum.org/whitehead.html

Paul

Cub Driver
January 13th 04, 10:44 AM
I got a review copy of One Hundred Years of Military Aviation, or some
such title from Naval Institute Press. I asked the book review guy at
Air & Space if he wanted a review. He replied: "I'm pretty much
hundreded out."


all the best -- Dan Ford
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Ben Jackson
January 13th 04, 11:46 AM
In article <8%xMb.33441$8H.76115@attbi_s03>,
Jay Honeck > wrote:
>...that the 100th anniversary of flight is finally past?

Why no, Jay, you are not *secretly* glad, you just posted it to a huge
forum! No, I'm not secretly glad, yeah, that's the ticket.

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

Jay Honeck
January 13th 04, 12:54 PM
> What else is there to do in the bathroom?

That's known as the "Library" in our house! :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
January 13th 04, 12:59 PM
> Why no, Jay, you are not *secretly* glad, you just posted it to a huge
> forum!

Perhaps that should have been written in the past tense, eh?

Well, all I know is this: After reading 100+ articles on the anniversary,
and writing some of my own, the whole "100 Year" event seems to have been
just like a long family visit:

"Glad to see it come, glad to see it go..."

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

John Galban
January 13th 04, 10:55 PM
(Dan Thomas) wrote in message >...
>
> Where do you guys get all the time to read so many magazines? I
> quit trying a long time ago, especially since most had articles about
> stuff I could never afford and will never fly. I prefer to read
> textbooks that teach me to do better the things I CAN afford.
>

I used to subscribe to 5 or 6 aviation mags during my 1st 10 yrs. of
flying. After awhile, I started to notice that I was basically
re-reading the same old articles over and over (not another pilot
report on the '75 Cessna 172!).

Now I just get the GA News and the mag that AOPA sends out.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Dylan Smith
January 14th 04, 06:40 PM
In article >, Ron Natalie wrote:
> Hey, the AF1 low-pass made my day.

I wonder...if you attached a propellor to each Wright Brother, who were
undoubtedly spinning in their graves at around 2300 rpm over the TFR
which grounded all GA flights within $BIGNUM square miles around Kill
Devil Hills...would it create enough thrust to get a Beech Baron
airborne?

--
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