OK -- Here's the Ultimate List of 90+ "Aircraft-Accessible Aviation Museums"

[Jay Honeck]

http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm

I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've found --
thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for accuracy,
and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at


I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
please let me know...

Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of their
lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help put
money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to welcome
us with open hangar doors!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[R.Hubbell]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:39:46 GMT "Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm


Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
on that document.


What's the next list? How about within walking to Golf courses?
Or maybe within walking of the ocean/lake? Or ones that have camping.
Or maybe hiking trails. You get the idea. It's so easy to propose
work for others! :)

Thanks for compiling the list, now who's going to visit all
of them first? Ready. Go! I smell a contest. Set a deadline,
get a small entrance fee ($100 is small for pilots).

The proof of a visit would be some acknowledgement from the museum
curator. It's crazy enough to be fun.


R. Hubbell

>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>
>
> I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
> ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
> please let me know...
>
> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to welcome
> us with open hangar doors!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Dan Thompson]

Nice. Really nice. The Cavanagh Flight Museum at Addison, Texas says on
their website:
Flying Directions: The museum is located at ADS, Addison Airport and is East
of the runway on taxiway "U". Limited aircraft parking is available on our
ramp, please call in advance to check availability.

The "call in advance" is definitely recommended, and you might want to add
that to the next revision of your list.



"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03...
> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've
found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for
accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>
>
> I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
> ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
> please let me know...
>
> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of
their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help
put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to
welcome
> us with open hangar doors!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Marco Leon]

Great page Jay. I agree with Hubbell; copyright the page in case you want to
make it a book. They have the $500 Round of Golf book so why not a $200 Day
at the Aviation Museum???

I would also like to suggest the Cradle of Aviation in NY. It may not
qualify because you need to take a bus from Republic airport but that's your
call.

Marco
N36616

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03...
> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've
found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for
accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>
>
> I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
> ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
> please let me know...
>
> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of
their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help
put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to
welcome
> us with open hangar doors!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>



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[Rick Durden]

Jay,

Ultimate???

You mean it will never, ever, ever be improved? <g>

Thanks for putting it together, that took a lot of work.

Warmest regards,
Rick

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03>...
> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>
>
> I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
> ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
> please let me know...
>
> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to welcome
> us with open hangar doors!

[Rick Durden]

Jay,

An excellent site. Nice work.

One question, shouldn't the Ottumwa, Iowa museum be listed as Blakesburg?

Warmest regards,
Rick

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03>...
> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>
>
> I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
> ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
> please let me know...
>
> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to welcome
> us with open hangar doors!

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Rick Durden > wrote:
>Jay,
>
>Ultimate???
>

Well, it *is* on a computer.


If it was done with ink-on-paper it might legitimately be referred to
as *PEN*-ultimate. <groan>

[Jay Honeck]

> If it was done with ink-on-paper it might legitimately be referred to
> as *PEN*-ultimate. <groan>

Augh!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> One question, shouldn't the Ottumwa, Iowa museum be listed as Blakesburg?

Well, good point. I went with Ottumwa because their webpage
(http://www.aaa-apm.org/) lists their location as "just West of Ottumwa,"
instead of "Blakesburg."

But, in retrospect, "Blakesburg" makes more sense. (And the name has
become pretty well-known in the aviation community...)

Thanks for the input!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> on that document.

How does one do that? Just put the little claim at the bottom of the page,
or is there still a "real" way to do it?

> Thanks for compiling the list, now who's going to visit all
> of them first? Ready. Go! I smell a contest. Set a deadline,
> get a small entrance fee ($100 is small for pilots).

I was tempted to flight plan a trip to all of them, using Destination
Direct. I wonder how many miles/days it would take?

Anyone up to a flight-planning challenge?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[R.Hubbell]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:09:24 GMT "Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> > on that document.
>
> How does one do that? Just put the little claim at the bottom of the page,
> or is there still a "real" way to do it?

IANAL (I am not a lawyer)

From the rec.aviation FAQ:

Subject: Copyright

Copyright (C) 1990-1999, Geoffrey G. Peck, all rights reserved.
You may redistribute this information freely as long as it is distributed in
its entirety, with this copyright notice included. You may also not charge,
either directly or indirectly, for this information, nor may you include this
information in a compendium for which a charge of any sort is made.



There must be someone around here that can give guidance on this.
But I think something similar to the above is enough to cover
your rights.


>
> > Thanks for compiling the list, now who's going to visit all
> > of them first? Ready. Go! I smell a contest. Set a deadline,
> > get a small entrance fee ($100 is small for pilots).
>
> I was tempted to flight plan a trip to all of them, using Destination
> Direct. I wonder how many miles/days it would take?

I think six months would be pushing it assuming you had only
that flying to do.

>
> Anyone up to a flight-planning challenge?


Not enough time for me. Someday, maybe.


R. Hubbell


> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Ron Natalie]

"R.Hubbell" > wrote in message ...
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:09:24 GMT "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>
> > > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> > > on that document.
> >
> > How does one do that? Just put the little claim at the bottom of the page,
> > or is there still a "real" way to do it?
>
> IANAL (I am not a lawyer)
>
> From the rec.aviation FAQ:
>
There's technically no requirement anymore to do anything to a publication
to assert copyright. (Since the adoption of the Berne convention in 1989).
Placing scare notices in your document just reinforces to people that you
intend to assert those rights.

[David Brooks]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03...
> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've
found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for
accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>

Great work, Jay!

> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of
their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help
put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to
welcome
> us with open hangar doors!

You didn't exxplicitly call out the Seattle Museum Of Flight in this
respect, but having to enter on the street (west) side is a temporary
affliction while they renew the East entrance.

However, I don't know the plans for providing access from the ramps once
they do re-open. Right now, the east side parking lot (cars and Concorde) is
fenced in.

-- David Brooks

[Chuck]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:UQdNb.65201$8H.106290@attbi_s03...
> > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> > on that document.
>
> How does one do that? Just put the little claim at the bottom of the
page,
> or is there still a "real" way to do it?
>

<snip>


Jay, check out http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/

Basically, you don't have to "register", but to cover my butt, I would. It
cost $30 .

I think that you are on to something, so I would sure follow up on it and do
it the right way!

[Gene Seibel]

Thanks Jay!
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.




"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03>...
> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>
>
> I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
> ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
> please let me know...
>
> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to welcome
> us with open hangar doors!

[Gig Giacona]

Jay, here's another possible listing. The Aerospace Education Center. It is
right across the street from Little Rock National Airport. A few aircraft on
display, IMAX and an aviation library.

http://www.aerospaced.org/


The place was supposed to be a statewide Aerospace high school. Unfortunatly
they couldn't come up with the funding for the school part.

[Kyler Laird]

>> > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
>> > on that document.

Why? To keep it from becoming too useful?

--kyler

[Jay Honeck]

> >> > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> >> > on that document.
>
> Why? To keep it from becoming too useful?

Yeah, that's kind of my feelings too, Kyler.

I didn't create the list for profit, after all. I did it because I wanted
the list for myself -- and Jav Henderson is kind enough to provide server
space so we can ALL share it. I'll be happy if people see it, use it, copy
it, steal it -- whatever -- just so long as it promotes museums who welcome
pilots!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[R.Hubbell]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:21:35 GMT Kyler Laird > wrote:

> >> > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> >> > on that document.
>
> Why? To keep it from becoming too useful?

There is that...but....

He did the work to put it all in one place to add something
unique to his hotel web site. When someone else takes his
work and copyright's it as their own they will tell him to
remove it from his site. That ain't fair!


R. Hubbell


>
> --kyler
>

[R.Hubbell]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:47:37 -0500 "Ron Natalie" > wrote:

>
> "R.Hubbell" > wrote in message ...
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:09:24 GMT "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> >
> > > > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> > > > on that document.
> > >
> > > How does one do that? Just put the little claim at the bottom of the page,
> > > or is there still a "real" way to do it?
> >
> > IANAL (I am not a lawyer)
> >
> > From the rec.aviation FAQ:
> >
> There's technically no requirement anymore to do anything to a publication
> to assert copyright. (Since the adoption of the Berne convention in 1989).
> Placing scare notices in your document just reinforces to people that you
> intend to assert those rights.
>


Does that apply to electronic documents or printed documents? Or is the distinction
not important? I could imagine something that silly, no problem.


R. Hubbell

[Mike]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<GOdNb.65190$8H.105993@attbi_s03>...
> > One question, shouldn't the Ottumwa, Iowa museum be listed as Blakesburg?
>
> Well, good point. I went with Ottumwa because their webpage
> (http://www.aaa-apm.org/) lists their location as "just West of Ottumwa,"
> instead of "Blakesburg."
>
> But, in retrospect, "Blakesburg" makes more sense. (And the name has
> become pretty well-known in the aviation community...)
>
> Thanks for the input!

Jay -

Another museum for the list is the Yankee Air Museum located on the
firld at Willow Run Airport (KYIP) in Michigan.
www.yankeeairmuseum.org

Mike

[Dan Thompson]

OK, I can't let this pass. Your scenario cannot happen under US copyright
law. Moreover, Jay does not need to do anything to protect his work under
copyright law, as it is automatically protected. Any one interested in
learning how and why can check out www.copyright.gov I am not getting
dragged into further explanations of a flame war over this.

"Michael Nouak" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jay Honeck" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:6HiNb.66548$8H.106428@attbi_s03...
> > > >> > Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a
copyright
> > > >> > on that document.
> > >
> > > Why? To keep it from becoming too useful?
> >
> > Yeah, that's kind of my feelings too, Kyler.
> >
> > I didn't create the list for profit, after all. I did it because I
wanted
> > the list for myself -- and Jav Henderson is kind enough to provide
server
> > space so we can ALL share it. I'll be happy if people see it, use it,
> copy
> > it, steal it -- whatever -- just so long as it promotes museums who
> welcome
> > pilots!
>
> Very noble, but will you be happy when someone steals it from you, puts
> _his_ copyright notice on it, then tells _you_ that you can't use it
> anymore, and _then_, just to add insult to injury, writes up a little book
> he makes money with? I thought you were in the newspaper business? In
which
> case you should know this kind of stuff happens... :-(
>
> Mike
>
>

[Kyler Laird]

"Michael Nouak" > writes:

>Very noble, but will you be happy when someone steals it from you, puts
>_his_ copyright notice on it, then tells _you_ that you can't use it
>anymore, and _then_, just to add insult to injury, writes up a little book
>he makes money with?

Clearly Jay has documented (here) that he developed the list. He
has the copyright regardless of any registration.

>I thought you were in the newspaper business? In which
>case you should know this kind of stuff happens... :-(

Do you have an example?

--kyler

[Jay Honeck]

> Clearly Jay has documented (here) that he developed the list. He
> has the copyright regardless of any registration.

Actually, YOU guys developed the list. I just compiled it into a usable
format.

For crying out loud, guys -- it's for all of us to use. I wouldn't think of
copyrighting it any more than I would copyright the "Rogue's Gallery."

Some horses are really just gifts, gentlemen. Don't look 'em in the mouth.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[David CL Francis]

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 at 04:39:46 in message
<mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03>, Jay Honeck >
wrote:

>http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
>I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've found --
>thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for accuracy,
>and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at

>
>I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
>ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
>please let me know...

You missed a couple of big ones in the United Kingdom.

The Royal Air Force Museum at Hendon London,
http://www.aboutbritain.com/RoyalAirForceMuseumhendon.htm?RefID=1504172

The RAF Museum at Cosford Shropshire
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/cosford/index.cfm

Both museums can be found at:
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/

These are both large extensive museums; Cosford which is still an RAF
training base, is on a large site and has some large aircraft outside.
Hendon is on what remains of an old RAF base. Incidentally it used to
house the pre- WW2 RAF annual displays at which my father flew in 206
squadron in 1928, 1929 and 1930. I still have the hand painted squadron
Crest taken form the Fairy IIIf that he flew the most.
--
David CL Francis

[Dave Buckles]

Jay Honeck wrote:

>>Clearly Jay has documented (here) that he developed the list. He
>>has the copyright regardless of any registration.
>
>
> Actually, YOU guys developed the list. I just compiled it into a usable
> format.
>
> For crying out loud, guys -- it's for all of us to use. I wouldn't think of
> copyrighting it any more than I would copyright the "Rogue's Gallery."
>
> Some horses are really just gifts, gentlemen. Don't look 'em in the mouth.

Well, as long as we're armchair lawyering here, I may as well get in on
the act. My understanding of copyright law is this: a collection of
facts cannot be copyrighted. The presentation can. Therefore, knowing
that Bob Smith's phone number is 555-1234, and Jim Johnson's is
555-4321, is not copyrightable. However, if you were to put those two
into a directory, the presentation is copyrightable.

The existence and locations of these museums are data. That isn't
copyrightable. Jay put them into a list form and published it. That
format is copyright 2004 by Jay Honeck. He doesn't need to do anything
about it, doesn't need to register it, nothing; it's copyrighted merely
by fact that he wrote it (the presentation). There's nothing to stop
somebody else from using his list as reference material and coming up
with his own list, as long as he doesn't come too close to Jay's
copyrighted presentation, but the presentation must be his own.

As the copyright holder, Jay holds the rights to that presentation. He
can publish it freely, with permission for all to read, republish, and
sell, or he can say that it may only be reproduced with the appropriate
payment of royalties, and then only on 100% linen, acid-free paper with
a weight of at least 28lb and maximum dimensions of 4.25" x 6.75", using
only Waterman Florida Blue ink. Clearly, he's opted to go for something
closer to the former, because that's the great kinda guy that he is. As
the copyright holder, that's his right.

He could, as the copyright holder, explicitly put it into the public
domain; he would be relinquishing his copyright (on the presentation,
remember; the data don't belong to him), and nobody else would be able
to copyright it later (because it's public domain). There's no reason
for him to do so, or not to do so; clearly, he's willing to be friendly
and helpful about it, and putting it in the public domain would not give
the rest of us any benefits. It really doesn't matter here.

It goes without saying, of course, that I Am Not A Lawyer; I do,
however, occasionally watch one on TV. This legal advice is given free
of charge, and is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Copyright 2004 by David C. Buckles :-)

--Dave Buckles

http://www.flight-instruction.com

[Cy Galley]

Sounds like you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night! <GRIN>

"Dave Buckles" > wrote in message
news:TpBOb.5847$dd6.4327@lakeread02...
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> >>Clearly Jay has documented (here) that he developed the list. He
> >>has the copyright regardless of any registration.
> >
> >
> > Actually, YOU guys developed the list. I just compiled it into a usable
> > format.
> >
> > For crying out loud, guys -- it's for all of us to use. I wouldn't
think of
> > copyrighting it any more than I would copyright the "Rogue's Gallery."
> >
> > Some horses are really just gifts, gentlemen. Don't look 'em in the
mouth.
>
> Well, as long as we're armchair lawyering here, I may as well get in on
> the act. My understanding of copyright law is this: a collection of
> facts cannot be copyrighted. The presentation can. Therefore, knowing
> that Bob Smith's phone number is 555-1234, and Jim Johnson's is
> 555-4321, is not copyrightable. However, if you were to put those two
> into a directory, the presentation is copyrightable.
>
> The existence and locations of these museums are data. That isn't
> copyrightable. Jay put them into a list form and published it. That
> format is copyright 2004 by Jay Honeck. He doesn't need to do anything
> about it, doesn't need to register it, nothing; it's copyrighted merely
> by fact that he wrote it (the presentation). There's nothing to stop
> somebody else from using his list as reference material and coming up
> with his own list, as long as he doesn't come too close to Jay's
> copyrighted presentation, but the presentation must be his own.
>
> As the copyright holder, Jay holds the rights to that presentation. He
> can publish it freely, with permission for all to read, republish, and
> sell, or he can say that it may only be reproduced with the appropriate
> payment of royalties, and then only on 100% linen, acid-free paper with
> a weight of at least 28lb and maximum dimensions of 4.25" x 6.75", using
> only Waterman Florida Blue ink. Clearly, he's opted to go for something
> closer to the former, because that's the great kinda guy that he is. As
> the copyright holder, that's his right.
>
> He could, as the copyright holder, explicitly put it into the public
> domain; he would be relinquishing his copyright (on the presentation,
> remember; the data don't belong to him), and nobody else would be able
> to copyright it later (because it's public domain). There's no reason
> for him to do so, or not to do so; clearly, he's willing to be friendly
> and helpful about it, and putting it in the public domain would not give
> the rest of us any benefits. It really doesn't matter here.
>
> It goes without saying, of course, that I Am Not A Lawyer; I do,
> however, occasionally watch one on TV. This legal advice is given free
> of charge, and is worth exactly what you paid for it.
>
> Copyright 2004 by David C. Buckles :-)
>
> --Dave Buckles
>
> http://www.flight-instruction.com

[Model Flyer]

"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
ervers.com...
> In article >,
> Rick Durden > wrote:
> >Jay,
> >
> >Ultimate???
> >
>
> Well, it *is* on a computer.
>
>
> If it was done with ink-on-paper it might legitimately be referred
to
> as *PEN*-ultimate. <groan>
>

It may not have been done with a PEN.:-)
--
---
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe.
/
don't bother me with insignificiant nonsence such as spelling,
I don't care if it spelt properly
/
Sometimes I fly and sometimes I just dream about it.
:-)

>
>

[Ray Andraka]

Jay,

I'd put the copyright notice on it and welcome links to it. You might as well
get
the advertising value out of the work you put in.

Jay Honeck wrote:

> ? ?? ? Don't know if you have or not but you might want to put a copyright
> ? ?? ? on that document.
> ?
> ? Why? To keep it from becoming too useful?
>
> Yeah, that's kind of my feelings too, Kyler.
>
> I didn't create the list for profit, after all. I did it because I wanted
> the list for myself -- and Jav Henderson is kind enough to provide server
> space so we can ALL share it. I'll be happy if people see it, use it, copy
> it, steal it -- whatever -- just so long as it promotes museums who welcome
> pilots!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

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http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

[Gene Seibel]

I found it similarly ironic when I flew to a few fly-ins with some
books to sell and found no other vendors flew in. Of course most
probably had way too much product to carry in an airplane, but you'd
think there'd be one or two.
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.



"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:<mK3Nb.54188$8H.102796@attbi_s03>...
> http://alexisparkinn.com/fly-in_aviation_museums.htm
>
> I think this list of fly-in museums is by far the most useful I've found --
> thanks for helping to create it, folks! Please check it over for accuracy,
> and submit any additions/corrections you may find to me at
>
>
> I have not had time to check all the web links (this whole endeavor has
> ended up taking WAY too much time! ;-), so if you find any "dead" links,
> please let me know...
>
> Personally, I plan on frequenting those aviation museums that open their
> front (or back) doors to the very people who make airplanes a part of their
> lives -- we pilots. It's a terrible irony that so many aviation museums
> keep the runway-side doors locked, and I plan on using this list to help put
> money in the pockets of those curators who are enlightened enough to welcome
> us with open hangar doors!

[Paul Sengupta]

"Ray Andraka" > wrote in message
...
> I'd put the copyright notice on it and welcome links to it. You might as
well
> get
> the advertising value out of the work you put in.

Someone mention Jay and his website and advertising in the same
breath? Uh-oh...

Paul :-)