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Roger Long
January 21st 04, 11:43 PM
I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
full pattern entry.

Excuse the cross posting but I want to be sure I cover all the bases.

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Roger Long

C J Campbell
January 22nd 04, 12:07 AM
"Roger Long" m> wrote in
message ...
| I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
| full pattern entry.
|
| Excuse the cross posting but I want to be sure I cover all the bases.
|

Yet another post that I would not touch with a 10 foot Pole. In fact, I
would not touch it no matter how long your Pole is.

G.R. Patterson III
January 22nd 04, 02:26 AM
Roger Long wrote:
>
> I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
> full pattern entry.

When I'm coming into SHD, I always call for traffic. If nobody answers and the
wind is favorable, I always use a straight in approach. Here in the Northeast,
frequency congestion is so bad that I almost always just fly a full pattern.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Orval Fairbairn
January 22nd 04, 03:27 AM
In article >,
"Roger Long" m>
wrote:

> I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
> full pattern entry.
>
> Excuse the cross posting but I want to be sure I cover all the bases.
>
> --
> Roger Long
>
>

I don't like straight-ins -- I prefer overhead approaches, as it gives
me a better view of who is in the traffic pattern.

Ron Lee
January 22nd 04, 04:05 AM
>"Roger Long" m> wrote in
>message ...
>| I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
>| full pattern entry.
>|
>| Excuse the cross posting but I want to be sure I cover all the bases.

If you cover "base" that precludes a straight-in approach.

Ron Lee
>

Larry Fransson
January 22nd 04, 05:42 AM
On 2004-01-21 15:43:17 -0800, "Roger Long"
m> said:

> I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in
vs
> full pattern entry.

If you're not going to bother anyone, do whatever you want. Split-S to
final is fine with me.

--
Larry Fransson
Seattle, WA

Jeff
January 22nd 04, 10:26 AM
thats one heck of a group to be x-posting to about entries
alt.binaries.erotica.pictures.senior-citizens

by the looks of that group, a straight in entry is only past memories :)


Roger Long wrote:

> I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
> full pattern entry.
>
> Excuse the cross posting but I want to be sure I cover all the bases.
>
> --
> Roger Long

Roger Long
January 22nd 04, 11:14 AM
Oh well, another one over the backstop.

(Looks like the next few guys missed it as well)

--
Roger Long
G.R. Patterson III > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Roger Long wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in
vs
> > full pattern entry.
>
> When I'm coming into SHD, I always call for traffic. If nobody answers and
the
> wind is favorable, I always use a straight in approach. Here in the
Northeast,
> frequency congestion is so bad that I almost always just fly a full
pattern.
>
> George Patterson
> Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually
said is
> "Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Dennis O'Connor
January 22nd 04, 01:44 PM
Go away BOY, you bother me...

"Roger Long" m> wrote in
message ...
> I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
> full pattern entry.
>
> Excuse the cross posting but I want to be sure I cover all the bases.
>
> --
> Roger Long
>
>

EDR
January 22nd 04, 02:19 PM
Instead of straight in, I will do a 45-entry to base.
It doesn't add any time and gives a better view of the pattern.

John Harlow
January 22nd 04, 02:26 PM
> I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight
> in vs full pattern entry.

Straight ins are fine if all parties agree, but when time permits it's
better to enter course properly and take your time to do a thorough lap.
You definitely don't want to arrive prematurely and cut another off, unless
you are solo. On final, keep the balls centered and minimize the knob
twisting to avoid distraction.

If, after you've come down, you experience a little shimmy or groaning in
the mechanism, do not be alarmed - it is normal.

It is recommended you check with management first before attempting a "Back
course" approach.

Be sure to let us know if you ever have any aviation related questions.

Larry Fransson
January 22nd 04, 03:48 PM
On 2004-01-22 03:14:20 -0800, "Roger Long"
m> said:

> Oh well, another one over the backstop.
>
> (Looks like the next few guys missed it as well)

Har, har, har. Now that I check the full headers (they take up a lot of
space and I generally don't care, so I don't display them), I get it.

--
Larry Fransson
Seattle, WA

Vic
January 22nd 04, 07:20 PM
"Roger Long" m> wrote in message >...
> I'd like to know what the members of this group think about straight in vs
> full pattern entry.
>
> Excuse the cross posting but I want to be sure I cover all the bases.

are you only interested in the male responses to that Q?

sue***

Roger Long
January 22nd 04, 08:57 PM
> are you only interested in the male responses to that Q?
>
> sue***

No, absolutely not!

Which reminds me of an interesting historical fact. During, or shortly
after, WWII, the Air Force conducted a study of aircraft deliveries to
Europe. Many of these trips were made by women pilots. Remember, this meant
flying across the lower fringes of the Arctic and Greenland in the days of
very primitive radio and navigation equipment.

The study adjusted for training, flight hours, experience, type of accident,
etc. to determine relative skill, judgement, and decision making. The
authors said they were sure there must be something wrong with their
methodology. The data and analysis showed that, not only were women better
pilots at the same level of training and experience, there was a good case
to be made that men should not be allowed to fly airplanes at all!

--
Roger Long

Vic
January 23rd 04, 01:57 PM
"Roger Long" m> wrote in message >...

> men should not be allowed to fly airplanes at all!

this reminds me of when i was doing an annual a few years ago. i was
under my grumman and along comes this, i dunno, octogenerian airport
rat type. He looks under the other wing where my (male) partner was
unscrewing access panels and says "doin' yer annual?'.

partner says "yup".

Oct. says "got yerself a good helper there"

partner says "well, actually it's her plane".


silence.

then the gentleman comes over to my wing, bends down, and says "yuh
got yer pilots license?"

this started a running joke between my partner and me where out of the
blue he'll say "they let girls fly?" or, better yet, in flight: "Hey
there, sweetcheeks, you think you could fetch me some water from the
back seat while I'm flying this thing?" while I'm the one flying.

sue***

Shirley
January 23rd 04, 02:32 PM
(Vic) wrote:

>then the gentleman comes over to my wing,
>bends down, and says "yuh got yer pilots license?"
>
>this started a running joke between my partner
>and me where out of the blue he'll say "they let
>girls fly?"

:-) People just don't expect it. My dog(Rudder)'s veterinarian and I have
talked about my flying (gliders) on several occasions. She says she can't
imagine flying an airplane; I tell her most people can't imagine doing surgery!
One morning, after a horrendously windy previous day, she saw me in there and
said: "You weren't flying in that wind yesterday, were you?" I said no. The
technician chimed in with: "Oh...I didn't know you were a *flight attendant*!"
I smiled politely and quietly replied: "I'm not a flight attendant; I am a
pilot." Her face turned 10 shades of red as she fumbled to recover. I have to
say, it was priceless.
:-)

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