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Wiley
February 1st 04, 01:50 AM
Would like to see any photos anyone might have of this oddball. I only
know of it's existence because of the Piper family tree poster at a
local avionics shop. Apparently it was a Six with four cyl. Lyc's
grafted on the wings.

Jay Honeck
February 1st 04, 01:58 PM
> Would like to see any photos anyone might have of this oddball. I only
> know of it's existence because of the Piper family tree poster at a
> local avionics shop. Apparently it was a Six with four cyl. Lyc's
> grafted on the wings.

Didn't that become the Seneca?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Rick Durden
February 1st 04, 03:21 PM
Wiley,

(Wiley) wrote in message >...
> Would like to see any photos anyone might have of this oddball. I only
> know of it's existence because of the Piper family tree poster at a
> local avionics shop. Apparently it was a Six with four cyl. Lyc's
> grafted on the wings.

You'll have to do some research. A number of magazines printed
pictures of the airplane when it was being tested, back in the late
'60s, maybe early '70s. Looked like a small Ju-52 with flat engines
and a nosewheel.

All the best,
Rick

Dylan Smith
February 1st 04, 06:11 PM
In article >, Rick Durden wrote:
> You'll have to do some research. A number of magazines printed
> pictures of the airplane when it was being tested, back in the late
> '60s, maybe early '70s. Looked like a small Ju-52 with flat engines
> and a nosewheel.

If you want to see an ugly plane, look out for the Britten Norman
Trislander. A high wing triple, with the centre engine mounted on
the vertical stabilizer! Fixed gear, too.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
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"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

gerrcoin
February 1st 04, 08:50 PM
Wiley wrote:
> Would like to see any photos anyone might have of this oddball. I only
> know of it's existence because of the Piper family tree poster at a
> local avionics shop. Apparently it was a Six with four cyl. Lyc's
> grafted on the wings.


source: http://www.aerofiles.com/_piper.html

PA-32 Cherokee 6, Lance, Saratoga 1963
span: 32'9"; length: 27'8"; ff: 12/6/63. Optional floats and
skis.

-260 6B 1968 = 260hp Lycoming O-540-E; load: 1694# v: 166/158/63
range: 950 ceiling: 14,500'.

---> -260 Tri-motor? = Yes, the PA-32 Tri-motor sat next to one of
the Piper hangars at Vero Beach FL. I used to see it there when
I was ferrying new airplanes in the early '70s. A Cherokee 6-260
with, I believe, Lycoming O-360s on the wings, it was explained
to me as the proof-of-concept for the PA-34 Seneca.
(- Bob Bailey 12/13/02)

Eclipsme
February 1st 04, 10:31 PM
"Dylan Smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Rick Durden
wrote:
> > You'll have to do some research. A number of magazines printed
> > pictures of the airplane when it was being tested, back in the late
> > '60s, maybe early '70s. Looked like a small Ju-52 with flat engines
> > and a nosewheel.
>
> If you want to see an ugly plane, look out for the Britten Norman
> Trislander. A high wing triple, with the centre engine mounted on
> the vertical stabilizer! Fixed gear, too.
>
> --
> Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
> Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
> Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
> "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Unusual, yes, but ugly? Perhaps. These planes are actually pretty
remarkable. A while back there was a thread on this group regarding
challenging airports. St. Barth was mentioned, in the Caribbean, because of
a short (1800'?), downhill, one-way runway, xwinds from across a ridge, and
a 300' hill on short final. Trislanders are the commercial plane used to
service this airport (or at least were when I flew in there in 1991 or so).

I'd like to see a picture of the 3 engined Cherokee, though.

Harvey

Rick Durden
February 2nd 04, 01:44 AM
Dylan,

I spent some time flying in the tropics and never thought the
Trislander was ugly. The basic Islander was stubby and pudgy and so I
thought the longer tri-motor version of it looked much sleeker.
However, the airplane didn't work out because the builders forgot
about the target market...people flying in awful conditions but with a
simple airplane they could fix when things broke. With the Trislander
you couldn't get to the tail engine without a scaffold and so when
something minor happened to it while you were in West Bumfolded, you
were hosed because you couldn't fix it. As a result, it didn't last
long. The twin engine Islanders, ugly as they are, have soldiered on
and continue to do so.

All the best,
Rick

Dylan Smith > wrote in message >...
> In article >, Rick Durden wrote:
> > You'll have to do some research. A number of magazines printed
> > pictures of the airplane when it was being tested, back in the late
> > '60s, maybe early '70s. Looked like a small Ju-52 with flat engines
> > and a nosewheel.
>
> If you want to see an ugly plane, look out for the Britten Norman
> Trislander. A high wing triple, with the centre engine mounted on
> the vertical stabilizer! Fixed gear, too.

Paul Sengupta
February 4th 04, 04:08 PM
Have a look at Aurigny's fleet.

http://www.aurigny.com/content.asp?pageID=370

Paul

"Rick Durden" > wrote in message
...
> However, the airplane didn't work out because the builders forgot
> about the target market

> > Trislander. A high wing triple, with the centre engine mounted on
> > the vertical stabilizer! Fixed gear, too.

Capt.Doug
February 5th 04, 03:46 AM
>"Rick Durden" wrote in message> With the Trislander
> you couldn't get to the tail engine without a scaffold and so when
> something minor happened to it while you were in West Bumfolded, you
> were hosed because you couldn't fix it.

It's been over 20 years since I've flown a Trolley, but I seem to recall
being able to open a passenger door and climbing up on top of the fuselage
to check the engine oil. The cowling comes off easily.

D.

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