Bendix King AV8OR and LX Nav Nano

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Hello all. I use an AV8OR for both powered flights as well as soaring by switching back and forth between the stock software and XC-Soar. I recently aquired an LX Nav Nano for badge flights and records for our club members. I'm able to pair the two via Bluetooth but I'm not having any luck trying to get GPS information externally from the Nano to the AV8OR. I'd really like to be able to make declarations via the AV8OR so I don't have to run Nano Config on my laptop.

Has anyone been able to get these two devices working together properly? The AV8OR's internal GPS is on serial COM 2. I've tried using all the other serial and virtual ports using the LX/Colibri, with and without K6BT settings but can't find the Nano data in the monitor when selected.

I've seen Paul Remde's serial cable solution but would like to rule out a Bluetooth connection before adding cords to the mix. I want to keep this setup as clutter free as possible since it will move from glider to glider. I'm willing to use just about any of the different Soaring software options, if they can make this work.

Thanks,
Greg

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Hi Greg. While not the same setup as you, I've been using an av8or and Colibri for a couple of years now (1.5?). Works fine for me as there but there is also an lx1606 in the mix as well.

I had the same issue with nonconnection until I up'd the baud rate on the two devices to 38400 (something higher than 19200). Even though the lx1606 is plug and play with recognizing the individual baud rates, manually setting them did the trick for me.

I ended up making my own connector for my panel needs using the 10pin mini USB solder type connector found on eBay. They're a pain to solder on as they're small, but with patience and practice (and many missed attempts) I was able to do it. If you go this route, give me a shout as the pinouts are labeled backward on the av8or, or at least inconsistent with the terminology you can get from the Bendix guys.

Anyway, baud rate and consistent cabling should do the trick.

Also (now that I'm remembering), I had to manually set the proper com port for the task upload before submitting. The 'self awareness' com selecting feature didn't work for me on my version of seeyou mobile.

So baud rate, proper cabling and correct com ports ( I think mine ended up being com4) and you should be fine.

Contact me back through email for more questions.

Britton

[Richard[_9_]]

On Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:20:40 AM UTC-8, wrote:
> Hello all. I use an AV8OR for both powered flights as well as soaring by switching back and forth between the stock software and XC-Soar. I recently aquired an LX Nav Nano for badge flights and records for our club members. I'm able to pair the two via Bluetooth but I'm not having any luck trying to get GPS information externally from the Nano to the AV8OR. I'd really like to be able to make declarations via the AV8OR so I don't have to run Nano Config on my laptop. Has anyone been able to get these two devices working together properly? The AV8OR's internal GPS is on serial COM 2. I've tried using all the other serial and virtual ports using the LX/Colibri, with and without K6BT settings but can't find the Nano data in the monitor when selected. I've seen Paul Remde's serial cable solution but would like to rule out a Bluetooth connection before adding cords to the mix. I want to keep this setup as clutter free as possible since it will move from glider to glider. I'm willing to use just about any of the different Soaring software options, if they can make this work. Thanks, Greg

Greg,

Not sure about the AV8OR or XC-Soar but this it how it works on a Oudie.

In order to connect to the NANO via Bluetooth you have to search on a PDA for devices in range. (See chapter 5.2 to enable Bluetooth) The Nano will be identified as LXNAV-NANO-<SERIALNUMBER>. Click PAIR or CONNECT to connect to the NANO. A security pin must be entered. The pin code for the NANO is 1234 and cannot be changed.

When Bluetooth is enabled, the NANO will consume more power and the total endurance of a new and charged battery will reduce to approximately 10hours. When Bluetooth is enabled, there will be no output on the wired serial interface and task declarations can only be uploaded via Bluetooth.

To connect to SeeYou PNA on an Oudie on the input menu select Bluetooth and pair. On the hardware menu select Device LX Port Settings COM 5 (Bluetooth) 38400 baud.

Thanks,

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

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I have the two connected already via Bluetooth. Three flashing green lights on the Nano indicating power, GPS signal, and Bluetooth. I have paired the AV8OR with the Nano and it shows paired on the AV8OR. I however can't get the GPS information from the Nano in either XC-Soar or in the AV8OR software which also lets you use an external GPS device. I've also tried to declare a task to the Nano and it fails as well.

When using the Nano as the position source for the AV8OR software it says Caution No position data. I have the device set up options set for Device:Position Port: Bluetooth and Type: NMEA I've tried it with the Type as AR-NAV instead of NMEA as well.

When trying to use the Nano as the source for the XC-Soar software I've tried utilizing just about every port and baud rate combination. If I look at the internal GPS on Com 2 and 4800 baud it says GPS data and the position is correct on the map. This is the AV8OR's internal GPS. If I change the baud rate on Com 2 is says no data. On the other ports no matter what baud rate I select is says not connected versus no data. I'm guessing since there is no specified Bluetooth port that I might be out of luck. While pairing the two together though it does say something about a Bluetooth serial port so I've been trying all the serial ports listed on the XC-Soar Device setup menu. Back to the grind. Thanks for the suggestions.

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I am sure this is irrelevant but just in case - I know my Oudie interface cable will not communicate with my AV8OR, and I think the reason is because the AV8OR serial interface does not work if power is also supplied to the mini USB.

By the way, I find the internal AV8OR gps has superb accurate reception. However I have moved on from the AV8OR first to an Oudie and now to a GliderGuider (same as V2) because I find the extra screen size a real advantage. The GG is a great platform for soaring and power flying software.

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Does your GliderGuider connect with the Nano? I'm not against buying a different unit I just want to make sure the combination works all together via Bluetooth or cable before buying it. Having it be able to run the AV8OR would be an added bonus.

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Hopefully not too much of a plug but I know it works well in combination with Oudie (as Richard described above). Since recently there is the Oudie 2 Lite version which is cheaper and in many ways better than the Glider guider it makes it a viable option for sure.

Regards,
Andrej Kolar
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On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:38:35 PM UTC+1, wrote:
> Does your GliderGuider connect with the Nano? I'm not against buying a different unit I just want to make sure the combination works all together via Bluetooth or cable before buying it. Having it be able to run the AV8OR would be an added bonus.

[Tobias Bieniek]

Have you tried the "Monitor" button in the "Devices" dialog? There you can see the data that is coming in on the selected port and in case only the baud rate is wrong it will at least show some strange characters instead of the NMEA data.