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Tre'
February 6th 04, 06:02 PM
HI. I am just starting on the process of learning to fly. I want to
start with some video type lessions. Can I get some recomendations
as to what is the best? Here are teh 3 I have heard:

King Schools (what is the diffrence in the DVD and the DVD/PC, other
than $100

Sporty's ---the one I am leaning towards

MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????


Thanks alot!

Tre'

CFLav8r
February 6th 04, 08:27 PM
> King Schools (what is the diffrence in the DVD and the DVD/PC, other
> than $100

King has a Cessna Pilot Course that is one of the best on the market if your
particular
training facility is a CPC school.

> Sporty's ---the one I am leaning towards

Sportys IMHO is great for reviewing.

> MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????

It's OK if your only going to become a SIM pilot.

I would check with your instructor to see what he/she is using for primary
training.

I'm currently working on my Instrument rating and have found the King CPC
course to
be a great transition from their private pilot course.

David (KORL)

Dave Butler
February 6th 04, 10:03 PM
Tre' wrote:
> HI. I am just starting on the process of learning to fly. I want to
> start with some video type lessions. Can I get some recomendations
> as to what is the best? Here are teh 3 I have heard:
>
> King Schools (what is the diffrence in the DVD and the DVD/PC, other
> than $100
>
> Sporty's ---the one I am leaning towards
>
> MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????
>
>
> Thanks alot!
>
> Tre'

See whether you can get a copy of the "Learning to Fly" series that was
broadcast on Discovery Wings.

I don't have personal experience with the King videos you are asking about, but
if they are strictly instructional, for instance intended to use to study for
the knowledge test, I recommend the PC version over the video/DVD, because it's
easier to navigate from topic to topic, skip over a topic, go back to a previous
one, etc. If it's strictly entertainment, then probably the video is fine.

I personally like the King instructional videos, but they're an acquired taste
and many don't like them.

Dave
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John T
February 6th 04, 10:09 PM
"Tre'" > wrote in message
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>
> MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????

Remember that this is first and foremost a game intended for entertainment -
not training. Do not expect to be able to fly a real plane with anything
approaching practical test standards after going through MSFS "Flight
School".

As for videos, the only ones I used were for my instrument rating and I used
the King CD-ROMs for that. I thought they were useful and I did quite well
on the written test based on that and the ground school I took through my
flight school (using Jeppessen).

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Peter Duniho
February 6th 04, 11:24 PM
"John T" > wrote in message
ws.com...
> "Tre'" > wrote in message
> om
> >
> > MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????
>
> Remember that this is first and foremost a game intended for
entertainment -
> not training. Do not expect to be able to fly a real plane with anything
> approaching practical test standards after going through MSFS "Flight
> School".

However, it still is a valuable tool for practicing procedures. I agree
it's no way to learn instrument flying, but once you've got the basic skills
under your belt, MSFS -- or pretty much any other GA flight sim for that
matter -- is not a bad way at all to get a lot of instrument approach time
in, and it's cheap too. Sure, it won't count in your logbook, but that
doesn't mean the experience isn't worth anything.

Pete

John T
February 7th 04, 01:10 AM
"Peter Duniho" > wrote in message

>
> However, it still is a valuable tool for practicing procedures.

No doubt, as I use it for much the same thing. My main point was to
discourage anybody thinking that learning to fly from scratch (not simply
reinforcing existing skills) by using MSFS is not the same thing as learning
in a real plane. There are just too many differences between the
platforms - not to mention that MSFS is intended primarily as entertainment.

Now, for me, entertainment is setting visibility to just above mins and
shooting a partial panel LOC back-course approach. :)

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John T
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John T
February 7th 04, 04:55 AM
"John T" > wrote in message
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>
> My main point was to
> discourage anybody thinking that learning to fly from scratch ...
> by using MSFS is not the same
> thing as learning in a real plane.

Make that: ...discourage anybody thinking that learning to fly from
scratch on MSFS *is* the same thing...

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MichaelR
February 7th 04, 08:42 PM
Call up Sporty's and ask for the 1st volume in their DVD private course.
It's free, but they charge a few dollars for S&H. It will give you a good
idea of what their course is like. (I liked it)




"Tre'" > wrote in message
om...
> HI. I am just starting on the process of learning to fly. I want to
> start with some video type lessions. Can I get some recomendations
> as to what is the best? Here are teh 3 I have heard:
>
> King Schools (what is the diffrence in the DVD and the DVD/PC, other
> than $100
>
> Sporty's ---the one I am leaning towards
>
> MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????
>
>
> Thanks alot!
>
> Tre'

Tre'
February 9th 04, 04:32 AM
(Tre') wrote in message >...
> HI. I am just starting on the process of learning to fly. I want to
> start with some video type lessions. Can I get some recomendations
> as to what is the best? Here are teh 3 I have heard:
>
> King Schools (what is the diffrence in the DVD and the DVD/PC, other
> than $100
>
> Sporty's ---the one I am leaning towards
>
> MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????
>
>
> Thanks alot!
>
> Tre'

Thanks.... now anyone know why the PC version of Kings is worth an
extra $100? Or is it?

Dave Stadt
February 9th 04, 04:52 AM
"Tre'" > wrote in message
om...
> (Tre') wrote in message
>...
> > HI. I am just starting on the process of learning to fly. I want to
> > start with some video type lessions. Can I get some recomendations
> > as to what is the best? Here are teh 3 I have heard:
> >
> > King Schools (what is the diffrence in the DVD and the DVD/PC, other
> > than $100
> >
> > Sporty's ---the one I am leaning towards
> >
> > MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????
> >
> >
> > Thanks alot!
> >
> > Tre'
>
> Thanks.... now anyone know why the PC version of Kings is worth an
> extra $100? Or is it?

Because they have a Citation to pay for.

MichaelR
February 10th 04, 12:05 AM
They sold the Citation and bought a more expensive Falcon.
I imagine the Cessna folks aren't too pleased about that


> > Thanks.... now anyone know why the PC version of Kings is worth an
> > extra $100? Or is it?

>
> Because they have a Citation to pay for.
>
>

S Green
February 10th 04, 12:18 AM
"MichaelR" > wrote in message
...
> They sold the Citation and bought a more expensive Falcon.
> I imagine the Cessna folks aren't too pleased about that
>

Whats it got to do with Cessna. They are free to buy what the hell they
want.




> > > Thanks.... now anyone know why the PC version of Kings is worth an
> > > extra $100? Or is it?
>
> >
> > Because they have a Citation to pay for.
> >
> >
>
>

Jens Krueger
February 10th 04, 05:50 AM
Dave Stadt > wrote:

> > Thanks.... now anyone know why the PC version of Kings is worth an
> > extra $100? Or is it?
>
> Because they have a Citation to pay for.

They sold the Citation a couple of years ago. They operate a Falcon 10
now.

Cheers,
Jens


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MichaelR
February 10th 04, 07:42 PM
Cessna pays them a lot of money for the Cessna Pilot Center training CD's -
money they could decide to send to Sporty's or Jeppesen.
It's kind of like showing up at your job at Ford driving a Toyota.



> > They sold the Citation and bought a more expensive Falcon.
> > I imagine the Cessna folks aren't too pleased about that
> >
>
> Whats it got to do with Cessna. They are free to buy what the hell they
> want.
>
>
>
>
> > > > Thanks.... now anyone know why the PC version of Kings is worth an
> > > > extra $100? Or is it?
> >
> > >
> > > Because they have a Citation to pay for.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Ditch
February 11th 04, 06:47 AM
>money they could decide to send to Sporty's or Jeppesen.

Since Sporty's and Jeppesen have their own CD's, why would they do that?


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

Periculum
February 24th 04, 01:19 AM
Anyone willing to "trade" videos or DVDs? I'm looking to try and build
a nice set to share with friends and other student pilots that are in
need but can't afford to shell out the whole deal from private to
CFII. If you are willing to trade, email me: periculum AT
groundgrappler.com. Thanks!


On 6 Feb 2004 10:02:41 -0800, (Tre') wrote:

>HI. I am just starting on the process of learning to fly. I want to
>start with some video type lessions. Can I get some recomendations
>as to what is the best? Here are teh 3 I have heard:
>
>King Schools (what is the diffrence in the DVD and the DVD/PC, other
>than $100
>
>Sporty's ---the one I am leaning towards
>
>MS Flight sim ---they say it has a good flight school in it????
>
>
>Thanks alot!
>
>Tre'

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