Link for Jay

[Chuck]

Hey Jay...

I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
landing.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg


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[G.R. Patterson III]

Chuck wrote:
>
> Hey Jay...
>
> I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
> landing.

Wow! Looks like he stalled about 100' or so up!

George Patterson
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[CFLav8r]

> Wow! Looks like he stalled about 100' or so up!

Nah! I was on that flight and I remember the flight attendant in the back
bragging about how they had won a lawsuit against the airline for weight
discrimination.
This particular attendant was seated in the rear jumpseat when we landed.

Capt. Wilbur Rongfellow

[Maule Driver]

Where did that come from?. Looks like a planned test to me because it
appears sort of stabilized in a high descent rate, no flare approach but
.....

"Chuck" > wrote in message
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> Hey Jay...
>
> I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
> landing.
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg
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[Bela P. Havasreti]

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 15:56:32 GMT, "Chuck" >
wrote:

The MD-80 was structurally beefed up (re-inforcements added just above
the engines on the tail) after that event. Not sure what
circumstances were, other than it was an acceptance / delivery flight.

Have to wonder if it was one of those; "I thought *you* were
flying...." things!

Bela P. Havasreti

>Hey Jay...
>
>I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
>landing.
>
>http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg
>
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[Rod Madsen]

It was a test of a new version of that airplane. Test for maximum rate of
decent when landing. I think he hit at 600 ft/minute vertical velocity.

Rod
"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
om...
> Where did that come from?. Looks like a planned test to me because it
> appears sort of stabilized in a high descent rate, no flare approach but
> ....
>
> "Chuck" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > Hey Jay...
> >
> > I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
> > landing.
> >
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg
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[Robert Moore]

"Rod Madsen" wrote

> It was a test of a new version of that airplane.
> Test for maximum rate of decent when landing.
> I think he hit at 600 ft/minute vertical velocity.

Which is the FAA requirement for certification.
10 fps at maximum landing weight and 6 fps at
maximum takeoff weight.

Bob Moore

[Chuck]

"Maule Driver" > wrote in message
om...
> Where did that come from?. Looks like a planned test to me because it
> appears sort of stabilized in a high descent rate, no flare approach but
> ....
>

<snip>

I read that it was a test flight... Testing hard landings or something,
which it looks like he did alright!


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[Rick Durden]

Chuck,

The video is quite old. I'm wondering how it happened to get
attention now. It got a ton of attention when it happened...I guess
we just have short memories.

It is during the testing of the DC-9-80 back in the '70s (they later
called it the MD-80 but it was DC-9-80 on the Type Certificate). It
is one of the hard landing tests. Unfortunately, the flight crew got
the descent rate a bit high at impact/touchdown and the tail broke
off...as it was designed to do. It is a test flight with the airplane
touching down outside of the flight parameters.

All the best,
Rick

"Chuck" > wrote in message . net>...
> Hey Jay...
>
> I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
> landing.
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg
>
>
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[Chuck]

"Rick Durden" > wrote in message
m...
> Chuck,
>
> The video is quite old. I'm wondering how it happened to get
> attention now. It got a ton of attention when it happened...I guess
> we just have short memories.
>
> It is during the testing of the DC-9-80 back in the '70s (they later
> called it the MD-80 but it was DC-9-80 on the Type Certificate). It
> is one of the hard landing tests. Unfortunately, the flight crew got
> the descent rate a bit high at impact/touchdown and the tail broke
> off...as it was designed to do. It is a test flight with the airplane
> touching down outside of the flight parameters.
>
> All the best,
> Rick
>


Thanks Rick...

I haven't seen that one before...


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[Michael Nouak]

http://amelia.db.erau.edu/reports/ntsb/aar/AAR82-02.pdf

HTH,

Mike

"Chuck" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
link.net...
> Hey Jay...
>
> I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
> landing.
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg
>
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[Jay Honeck]

Thanks, Chuck!

I'll post it there shortly...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Chuck" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Hey Jay...
>
> I found a video for your page. It's an MD-80 falling apart after a hard
> landing.
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6kuhd/MD-80.mpg
>
>
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[Paul Sengupta]

"Bela P. Havasreti" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 15:56:32 GMT, "Chuck" >
> wrote:
> Have to wonder if it was one of those; "I thought *you* were
> flying...." things!

"Autoland a bit rough".
"Autoland not fitted to this aircraft"

Paul

[David Brooks]

"Rick Durden" > wrote in message
m...
> Chuck,
>
> The video is quite old. I'm wondering how it happened to get
> attention now.

It was referenced (for no particularly good reason) in the weekend Avweb.

-- David Brooks

[C J Campbell]

"Rod Madsen" > wrote in message
...
| It was a test of a new version of that airplane. Test for maximum rate of
| decent when landing. I think he hit at 600 ft/minute vertical velocity.
|

This was on AVweb today. They said he came down at nearly 700 fpm. The
flight engineer broke his ankle.

[C J Campbell]

"Rick Durden" > wrote in message
m...
| Chuck,
|
| The video is quite old. I'm wondering how it happened to get
| attention now. It got a ton of attention when it happened...I guess
| we just have short memories.
|
| It is during the testing of the DC-9-80 back in the '70s (they later
| called it the MD-80 but it was DC-9-80 on the Type Certificate). It
| is one of the hard landing tests. Unfortunately, the flight crew got
| the descent rate a bit high at impact/touchdown and the tail broke
| off...as it was designed to do.

Why was it designed to do that?

[C J Campbell]

While you are at it, try this link:

http://www.avweb.com/newspics/tbird.wmv

[Jay Honeck]

Wow. What a great/terrible video.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
...
> While you are at it, try this link:
>
> http://www.avweb.com/newspics/tbird.wmv
>
>