SeeYouMobile SN-10 Wind Value?

[John C]

Been unable to post to Naviter forum so asking here...

I am using SeeYouMobile 4.34. I have SN-10 properly wired to PDA and SeeYouMobile set to SN-10 for hardware setting. Will SeeYouMobile use the SN-10 wind value (from NMEA data) for its final glide calculation?

Thanks in advance for reply!

John

[K]

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:54:35 AM UTC-7, John C wrote:

> I am using SeeYouMobile 4.34. I have SN-10 properly wired to PDA and SeeYouMobile set to SN-10 for hardware setting. Will SeeYouMobile use the SN-10 wind value (from NMEA data) for its final glide calculation?

John,
It is my understanding that you are correct. I have my GPS to the SN10 and the SN10 sending winds and Vario to the Oudie.

[John C]

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:04:44 AM UTC-5, K wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:54:35 AM UTC-7, John C wrote:
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> > I am using SeeYouMobile 4.34. I have SN-10 properly wired to PDA and SeeYouMobile set to SN-10 for hardware setting. Will SeeYouMobile use the SN-10 wind value (from NMEA data) for its final glide calculation?
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> John,
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> It is my understanding that you are correct. I have my GPS to the SN10 and the SN10 sending winds and Vario to the Oudie.

Thanks "K"...I guess what I'm concerned about is whether SeeYouMobile actually *uses* that received wind value for final glide calcs.

John

[waremark]

Incidentally which wind algorithm would you trust more, that from SYM or that from SN10?

I would expect SYM to make its own wind calculation but that is only a guess.

[Paul Remde]

Hi John,

Yes. The versions of SeeYou after about March of 2012 do use the SN10 wind
data. It was requested by Gordon Boettger and provided by Naviter very
quickly. Gordon confirmed that it worked great. If I remember correctly,
the SN10 also sends out a number that represents how reliable the wind data
is and SeeYou Mobile uses that number to determine whether or not to use the
SN10's wind data.

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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"John C" wrote in message
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Been unable to post to Naviter forum so asking here...

I am using SeeYouMobile 4.34. I have SN-10 properly wired to PDA and
SeeYouMobile set to SN-10 for hardware setting. Will SeeYouMobile use the
SN-10 wind value (from NMEA data) for its final glide calculation?

Thanks in advance for reply!

John

[John C]

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:45:29 PM UTC-5, waremark wrote:
> Incidentally which wind algorithm would you trust more, that from SYM or that from SN10?
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> I would expect SYM to make its own wind calculation but that is only a guess.

It's my understanding that SN-10 NMEA data doesn't provide airspeed. So I would prefer SYM to use the SN-10 wind value for its final glide calcs. I've been unable to find any SYM documentation, posts, etc. indicating this is the case. Hoping someone visiting this forum may have that answer...sent similar question to Naviter support, but haven't heard back.

John

[John C]

On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:56:33 AM UTC-5, John C wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:45:29 PM UTC-5, waremark wrote:
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> > Incidentally which wind algorithm would you trust more, that from SYM or that from SN10?
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> It's my understanding that SN-10 NMEA data doesn't provide airspeed. So I would prefer SYM to use the SN-10 wind value for its final glide calcs. I've been unable to find any SYM documentation, posts, etc. indicating this is the case. Hoping someone visiting this forum may have that answer...sent similar question to Naviter support, but haven't heard back.
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> John

Andrej responded from Naviter support. Thanks Andrej!

"Yes and no. We do not use the wind as calculated in the SN10. Instead we read Indicated Airspeed and calculate our own wind.

Any other vario which sends IAS/TAS information will give the same winds in SeeYou Mobile."

[Max Kellermann[_2_]]

On Friday, January 25, 2013 5:35:31 PM UTC+1, John C wrote:
> "Yes and no. We do not use the wind as calculated in the SN10. Instead we read Indicated Airspeed and calculate our own wind.

How can one read IAS from the SN10 when the SN10 does not send IAS?

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

I think the reply posted below from Andrej was from before they implemented
full support for SN10 winds in SeeYou Mobile. SeeYou Mobile does now use
the SN10 wind data.

Paul Remde


"John C" wrote in message
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On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:56:33 AM UTC-5, John C wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:45:29 PM UTC-5, waremark wrote:
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> > Incidentally which wind algorithm would you trust more, that from SYM or
> > that from SN10?
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> > I would expect SYM to make its own wind calculation but that is only a
> > guess.
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> It's my understanding that SN-10 NMEA data doesn't provide airspeed. So I
> would prefer SYM to use the SN-10 wind value for its final glide calcs.
> I've been unable to find any SYM documentation, posts, etc. indicating
> this is the case. Hoping someone visiting this forum may have that
> answer...sent similar question to Naviter support, but haven't heard back.
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> John

Andrej responded from Naviter support. Thanks Andrej!

"Yes and no. We do not use the wind as calculated in the SN10. Instead we
read Indicated Airspeed and calculate our own wind.

Any other vario which sends IAS/TAS information will give the same winds in
SeeYou Mobile."

[Naviter Info]

Oops. Totally my bad. What Paul says is correct.

My answer is valid for everything else other than the SN10. Sorry about that.