Sheriff's helicopter violated Daytona TFR

[Malcolm Teas]

Seems that a sheriff's helicopter pilot didn't get the word, and
didn't have the right sqwalk or something.

Here's the article: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/02/17/Pasco/County_copter_sets_of.shtml

What I find interesting is the quote from an FAA spokesman:

' "We make every effort to educate pilots that they are in place, but
sometimes pilots are not aware of them," said Kathleen Bergen,
spokeswoman for the southern region of the FAA.

The agency will investigate as a matter of course, but "virtually
every alleged violation has been unintentional," Bergen said. '

If "virtually every alleged violation is unintentional", that's
spending a lot of money for not much result. Seems like the effort's
misdirected.

-Malcolm Teas
JYO in the ADIZ

[CFLav8r]

> ' "We make every effort to educate pilots that they are in place, but
> sometimes pilots are not aware of them," said Kathleen Bergen,
> spokeswoman for the southern region of the FAA.
>
> The agency will investigate as a matter of course, but "virtually
> every alleged violation has been unintentional," Bergen said. '
>
Wow! I hope they are that nice to me if it ever happens that I wander into a
TFR.
The quote makes it sound like its ok, he didn't know any better. You know,
the old
"Boys will be boys" statement for rule breaking.

David

[John T]

"CFLav8r" > wrote in message

>
> Wow! I hope they are that nice to me if it ever happens that I wander
> into a TFR.

I'm sure they will be if "Sheriff's Department" is painted on the side of
your aircraft. :)

--
John T
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http://www.pocketgear.com/products_search.asp?developerid=4415
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[Ron Natalie]

"John T" > wrote in message ws.com...
> "CFLav8r" > wrote in message
>
> >
> > Wow! I hope they are that nice to me if it ever happens that I wander
> > into a TFR.
>
> I'm sure they will be if "Sheriff's Department" is painted on the side of
> your aircraft. :)
>
Like terrorists can't get cans of spay paint.

[James M. Knox]

(Malcolm Teas) wrote in
om:


> A sheriff's helicopter working a fatal crash on State Road 54 entered
> a restricted flight zone put in place for President Bush's visit to
> Tampa.
>
> "They failed to notify us," sheriff's spokesman Kevin Doll said
> Monday.

Gee... I didn't realize that the FAA was supposed to call each pilot and
tell them in advance what NOTAMs might affect future flights. I've been
doing it the hard way and calling them!

> "I wanted to go outside and see what it was, but I was scared," said
> 16-year-old Jacki Hill, who was watching Nickelodeon about 10:30 p.m.
> Sunday. "I thought it was a terrorist attack." She flipped to the news
> channel, hoping for an answer.

Used to be that kids ran outside to look at the aircraft. Now the
govt/press has hyped it so much that teenagers claim they need to cower
in fear. That's the part I find sad.

Austin is the same way. Now the Austin newspaper basically tells the
public every time a plane is going to fly over the city. On Dec 3rd the
local pilot's group staged a fly-over. The newspaper warned everyone
that it wouldn't hurt them. Last month a couple of helicopters replaced
some equipment on a building. The paper ran a piece the day before
telling everyone it would not be a terrorist attack.

Hype and garbage...

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James M. Knox
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1109-A Shady Lane fax 512-366-4331
Austin, Tx 78721
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[Tom Sixkiller]

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "John T" > wrote in message
ws.com...
> > "CFLav8r" > wrote in message
> >
> > >
> > > Wow! I hope they are that nice to me if it ever happens that I wander
> > > into a TFR.
> >
> > I'm sure they will be if "Sheriff's Department" is painted on the side
of
> > your aircraft. :)
> >
> Like terrorists can't get cans of spay paint.

Yeah..but they'd "spay" paint "Shareifs Deparment" on it... :~)

[Morgans]

"James M. Knox" > wrote
> Austin is the same way. Now the Austin newspaper basically tells the
> public every time a plane is going to fly over the city. On Dec 3rd the
> local pilot's group staged a fly-over. The newspaper warned everyone
> that it wouldn't hurt them. Last month a couple of helicopters replaced
> some equipment on a building. The paper ran a piece the day before
> telling everyone it would not be a terrorist attack.

> James M. Knox

Great! Sounds good, from my point of view. I could be ready to be in the
right place to see the flyover, or to see the big noisy thing repulse the
earth, while carrying big heavy thingies. ;-)
--
Jim in NC



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[Jay Beckman]

"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >
> > "John T" > wrote in message
> ws.com...
> > > "CFLav8r" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Wow! I hope they are that nice to me if it ever happens that I
wander
> > > > into a TFR.
> > >
> > > I'm sure they will be if "Sheriff's Department" is painted on the side
> of
> > > your aircraft. :)
> > >
> > Like terrorists can't get cans of spay paint.
>
> Yeah..but they'd "spay" paint "Shareifs Deparment" on it... :~)
>
>
>

Rock The Casbah...Rock The Casbah...

Jay Beckman
Chandler, AZ
Student Pilot - .9 Hours (No where to go but up!)

[Ash Wyllie]

Tom Sixkiller opined

>"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
. ..
>>
>> "John T" > wrote in message
ws.com...
>> > "CFLav8r" > wrote in message
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Wow! I hope they are that nice to me if it ever happens that I wander
>> > > into a TFR.
>> >
>> > I'm sure they will be if "Sheriff's Department" is painted on the side
>of
>> > your aircraft. :)
>> >
>> Like terrorists can't get cans of spay paint.

>Yeah..but they'd "spay" paint "Shareifs Deparment" on it... :~)

But ho wud now the difernse?



-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

[BTIZ]

> > "They failed to notify us," sheriff's spokesman Kevin Doll said
> > Monday.
>

I'll remember that for my "plea of innocence"...

BT

[Judah]

Good thing that the Sheriff is not a terrorist after all! I'm sure there
was some question.


(Malcolm Teas) wrote in
om:

> Seems that a sheriff's helicopter pilot didn't get the word, and
> didn't have the right sqwalk or something.
>
> Here's the article:
> http://www.sptimes.com/2004/02/17/Pasco/County_copter_sets_of.shtml
>
> What I find interesting is the quote from an FAA spokesman:
>
> ' "We make every effort to educate pilots that they are in place, but
> sometimes pilots are not aware of them," said Kathleen Bergen,
> spokeswoman for the southern region of the FAA.
>
> The agency will investigate as a matter of course, but "virtually
> every alleged violation has been unintentional," Bergen said. '
>
> If "virtually every alleged violation is unintentional", that's
> spending a lot of money for not much result. Seems like the effort's
> misdirected.
>
> -Malcolm Teas
> JYO in the ADIZ
>

[G.R. Patterson III]

John T wrote:
>
> "CFLav8r" > wrote in message
>
> >
> > Wow! I hope they are that nice to me if it ever happens that I wander
> > into a TFR.
>
> I'm sure they will be if "Sheriff's Department" is painted on the side of
> your aircraft. :)

Neat idea! I'm cutting the stencil now. :-)

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[John T]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message

>
> Neat idea! I'm cutting the stencil now. :-)

Make sure you have the uniform and IDs to go along with it.

Oh, and don't forget to doff the turban and shave that dark beard of yours
and let us know how you make out. :)

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_search.asp?developerid=4415
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[G.R. Patterson III]

John T wrote:
>
> Make sure you have the uniform and IDs to go along with it.

Thanks for the info - Quartermaster core has all of that.

> Oh, and don't forget to doff the turban and shave that dark beard of yours
> and let us know how you make out. :)

Shave the beard!?!? Oh well, Allah Akbar!

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.