They're watching you...

[Mike O'Malley]

Someone on another group just posted one of these. I had no idea someone was
tracking this info. Kind of interesting though:

http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?timespan=y&searchfor=rec.aviation.piloting&searchdate=12%2F31%2F2003

http://makeashorterlink.com/?W57F21B77

Mike O'Malley

[[email protected]]

Annnnnnd........

Just for the record...

This group is a close "companion" group....(shared interest)
to rec.models.rc.air....

Dave




..On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:15:52 -0600, "Mike O'Malley"
> wrote:

>Someone on another group just posted one of these. I had no idea someone was
>tracking this info. Kind of interesting though:
>
>http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?timespan=y&searchfor=rec.aviation.piloting&searchdate=12%2F31%2F2003
>
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?W57F21B77
>
>Mike O'Malley
>

[Martin Hotze]

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:15:52 -0600, Mike O'Malley wrote:

>Someone on another group just posted one of these. I had no idea someone was
>tracking this info. Kind of interesting though:

this 'news' is about 1 year old.* doooh*
and google-groups does just the same, others might do as well but not
giving public access.


>http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?timespan=y&searchfor=rec.aviation.piloting&searchdate=12%2F31%2F2003
>
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?W57F21B77


use
http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/about/privacy/privacytool.aspx
and remove yourself from the listing.
use appropriate x-headers to not get listed in google.

(use robots.txt files for your website to protect your images etc.)

>Mike O'Malley

#m

--
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19990509

[Stevenatherton]

wow thats gobsmacking

[Rod Madsen]

I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.

Rod

"Mike O'Malley" > wrote in message
...
> Someone on another group just posted one of these. I had no idea someone
was
> tracking this info. Kind of interesting though:
>
>
http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/reportcard.asp?timespan=y&searc
hfor=rec.aviation.piloting&searchdate=12%2F31%2F2003
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?W57F21B77
>
> Mike O'Malley
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.

What do I win?

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Casual Observation]

> Jay Honeck > wrote:

> > I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.
>
> What do I win?

Spammer of the month award.

And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.

Jay I feel that YOU are spamming these aviation newsgroups with
your SIG file and your constant references to your website and
I am politely asking you to drop any reference to AlexisParkInn
from future postings.

If anyone else feels the same way then ask Jay the same question
and see for yourself what his response is.

[Dave Stadt]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:lT5_b.243136$U%5.1551165@attbi_s03...
> > I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.
>
> What do I win?
>
> :-)

A free nights stay at the Alexis Park Inn. :-) Keep it up, you make the
newsgroups interesting.

> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Michael 182]

"Casual Observation" > wrote in message
...
> > Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
> > > I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.
> >
> > What do I win?
>
> Spammer of the month award.
>
> And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
> SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.
>
> Jay I feel that YOU are spamming these aviation newsgroups with
> your SIG file and your constant references to your website and
> I am politely asking you to drop any reference to AlexisParkInn
> from future posting

Including Jay in a definition of spam is pretty broad. Spam is trying to
sell a scheme to make me rich, or leading me to a porno site, or filling the
newsgroup with those weird topics that kept popping up a month or so ago -
"Willingness of a thousand flying puppies" or whatever they were.

Of course, I like money and nudity, and I really like rich naked women, so
maybe I'm the wrong one to comment.

Michael




> If anyone else feels the same way then ask Jay the same question
> and see for yourself what his response is.

[C J Campbell]

"Casual Observation" > wrote in message
...
> > Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
> > > I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.
> >
> > What do I win?
>
> Spammer of the month award.
>
> And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
> SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.

Interesting, coming from an anonymous poster. Who stepped on your tail?

[Martin Hotze]

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:10:21 GMT, Casual Observation wrote:

>And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
>SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.

A signature attached to a posting is never a problem (the posting itself
above the signature should contain content) to a usenet posting AS LONG AS
there is a correct signature separator "-- " (dash dash space; on a single
line) AND the signature should not exceed 4 lines. This is common practise
on usenet.

One *might* discuss the "shameless plugs", but they are almost always
connected to aviation, so I see it not as a really big problem at all.

I might not be on the same line with Jay on the one or other viewpoint, but
I can't blame him for his signature (AFAIR he corrected the signature
separator)

greetings, martin

example for a working signature:

--
here is a link to a microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/
I can write my (political) opinion here, it is OK to be "off topic"
the sig should not exceed 4 lines and should only be max. 80 chars.
so here comes my last line ....................... have a good day.

[Jay Honeck]

> And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
> SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.

Gee, before I owned an airplane, all my sig line said was "Iowa City, IA"
(Which is a damn-sight more than I can say about YOUR signature line.)

Then, in 1998, we added "Warrior N33431". When we sold that in 2002, and
bought Atlas, it became "Pathfinder N56993".

Then, when Mary and I debated (here, by the way, with many of you all) long
and hard about buying an old hotel, and converting it to an aviation theme,
fly-in destination, I added our new website to the signature. That was also
in 2002.

I guess you could say it's been a natural progression.

Now, then, let's talk about YOU. Who are you, and what right do you have to
question my signature?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim Fisher]

"Casual Observation" > wrote in message
> And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
> SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.

As far as I can tell, you've never contributed anything here except for a
smartass comment or two.

Jay's been posting here for about as long as anyone, jerkweed. It wasn't
until relatively recently that he started including his sig with his posts.
Any even the sig is "aviation related". Buzz off if'n you don't like it.

--
Jim Fisher

[Casual Observation]

> Jay Honeck > wrote:

> Now, then, let's talk about YOU. Who are you, and what right do you have to
> question my signature?

I'm just a lurker who understands clearly what you are doing and why.

You have already been gently chastised for running chronic updates to
your rogue's gallery and been forced by your peers to restrict yourself
to a monthly update.

But that doesn't help you to get your message out about your hotel.

So what's left to you besides having the URL as part of your SIG file,
and what better way to get your SIG file out there than to become the
de facto most prolific poster in aviation related newsgroups.

That's smart marketing Jay and your not the only person in the world
who practices that sort of newsgroup marketing.

But please don't be arrogant and play dumb that some people in those
groups don't truly understand what your ulterior motives are.

Just the other day you started posting text messages with links in the
aviation binary newsgroup regarding your new multi-media clips. That's
not a multi-media newsgroup and the regulars there want to see
contributors POSTING pictures not posting links to a commercial site
for an aviation themed hotel.

[S Green]

**** off, tosser!
"Casual Observation" > wrote in message
...
> > Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
> > Now, then, let's talk about YOU. Who are you, and what right do you
have to
> > question my signature?
>
> I'm just a lurker who understands clearly what you are doing and why.
>
> You have already been gently chastised for running chronic updates to
> your rogue's gallery and been forced by your peers to restrict yourself
> to a monthly update.
>
> But that doesn't help you to get your message out about your hotel.
>
> So what's left to you besides having the URL as part of your SIG file,
> and what better way to get your SIG file out there than to become the
> de facto most prolific poster in aviation related newsgroups.
>
> That's smart marketing Jay and your not the only person in the world
> who practices that sort of newsgroup marketing.
>
> But please don't be arrogant and play dumb that some people in those
> groups don't truly understand what your ulterior motives are.
>
> Just the other day you started posting text messages with links in the
> aviation binary newsgroup regarding your new multi-media clips. That's
> not a multi-media newsgroup and the regulars there want to see
> contributors POSTING pictures not posting links to a commercial site
> for an aviation themed hotel.

[Andrew Gideon]

Casual Observation wrote:

> That's smart marketing Jay and your not the only person in the world
> who practices that sort of newsgroup marketing.
>
> But please don't be arrogant and play dumb that some people in those
> groups don't truly understand what your ulterior motives are.

"Ulterior"? That's a fairly strong statement with no basis in presented
fact. Jay contributes here, unlike some other people. His posts have
sufficient utility that they're seen. More, his posts generate non-flaming
replies, further demonstrating the utility of those posts.

Can you say the same?

Jay's signatures are aviation-related, but there's no mandate for this. A
signature can be whatever the user wants. As Jay is following the standard
for such things, anyone motivated to tell their newsreader to ignore
signatures would never see it.

> Just the other day you started posting text messages with links in the
> aviation binary newsgroup regarding your new multi-media clips. That's
> not a multi-media newsgroup and the regulars there want to see
> contributors POSTING pictures not posting links to a commercial site
> for an aviation themed hotel.

Oh my God...Jay is saving bandwidth by posting links instead of entire
binaries? What is the world coming too? Doesn't he realize that he pays
for the "link" bandwidth, while he'd be using other people's bandwidth if
he posted the entire file?

Jay, what type of weird-o are you, failing to freeload on the USENET
infrastructure?

- Andrew

[Morgans]

"Michael 182"

> Including Jay in a definition of spam is pretty broad. Spam is trying to
> sell a scheme to make me rich, or leading me to a porno site, or filling
the
> newsgroup with those weird topics that kept popping up a month or so ago -
> "Willingness of a thousand flying puppies" or whatever they were.
>
> Of course, I like money and nudity, and I really like rich naked women, so
> maybe I'm the wrong one to comment.
>
> Michael

How about we all killfile this A**hole that keeps complaining, and go on
with life. There are others, like Patterson, who is including a sig line
about like Jay's, and I don't see anyone complaining about that!
--
Jim in NC


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[[email protected]]

I appreciate Jay's post. His .signature is not out of line.
People ask about his business, and he tells about recent updates,
and the ups and downs of his business. He even invited YOU to the
free beer and pool party enroute to Oshkosh next year. Jay often
talks (writes) about his piloting experiences with the family.

Jay is NOT a spammer. He posts with his email address, and his
web ADDRESS. I know EXACTLY who he is and how/where to find
him to discuss PRIVATELY anything that might be on my mind
about his postings.

However... I don't know who you are, or what you do. Care to
enlighten us?

Jer/ Eberhard (.sig below)

Casual Observation > wrote:
>> Jay Honeck > wrote:

>> > I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.
>>
>> What do I win?

> Spammer of the month award.

> And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
> SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.

> Jay I feel that YOU are spamming these aviation newsgroups with
> your SIG file and your constant references to your website and
> I am politely asking you to drop any reference to AlexisParkInn
> from future postings.

> If anyone else feels the same way then ask Jay the same question
> and see for yourself what his response is.


Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

--
Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO
CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer'at'frii.com WEB http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider, FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot, BM218 HAM N0FZD, 197 Young Eagles!

[Bob Fry]

Casual Observation > writes:

> So what's left to you besides having the URL as part of your SIG file,
> and what better way to get your SIG file out there than to become the
> de facto most prolific poster in aviation related newsgroups.
>
> That's smart marketing Jay and your not the only person in the world
> who practices that sort of newsgroup marketing.

Dude, get a clue. I'll bet pilots, especially pilots who also read
these few newsgroups, are a tiny fraction of Jay's clientel. Jay is a
prolific poster 'cause he:

- has too much energy
- has too much time
- doesn't have a life
- all of the above

His posts are usually entertaining, sometimes ignorant but rarely
arrogant. He's definitely a positive element of these groups so who
cares if we know all about his Inn? I stopped there once, it was the
best motel I stayed at on my journey.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Morgans wrote:
>
> How about we all killfile this A**hole that keeps complaining,

The problem is that this A**hole keeps changing his alias.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Jay Honeck]

> - has too much energy
> - has too much time
> - doesn't have a life
> - all of the above

Hey -- it's February in Iowa. How much of a life can I have? :-)

Actually, my life is incredibly full, between family, flying, and the
business. 18 hour days are the norm.

I'm just a fast typist, and I don't need much sleep.

> His posts are usually entertaining, sometimes ignorant but rarely
> arrogant. He's definitely a positive element of these groups so who
> cares if we know all about his Inn? I stopped there once, it was the
> best motel I stayed at on my journey.

Boy, talk about "damned with faint praise"... ;-)

Hell, if it wasn't for input from a lot of you guys (and gals) we probably
wouldn't have bought the inn. This group has, in many ways, helped to
create our hotel.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bob Fry]

"Jay Honeck" > writes:

> Boy, talk about "damned with faint praise"... ;-)

Don't take it personally. I'm well known for trash talking
everything. Maybe my shrink can fix it...

[Jim Fisher]

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message > - has too
much energy
> - has too much time
> - doesn't have a life
> - all of the above
>
> His posts are usually entertaining, sometimes ignorant but rarely
> arrogant.

So unlike you to beat around the bush, Bob. Tell us what you really think!

--
Jim Fisher

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Casual Observation" > wrote in message
...
> > Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
> > > I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.
> >
> > What do I win?
>
> Spammer of the month award.
>
And you win S4B for the month.

Here's a dollar - buy a clue!

[plonk]

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:dVa_b.382896$na.573611@attbi_s04...
> > You have already been gently chastised for running chronic updates to
> > your rogue's gallery and been forced by your peers to restrict yourself
> > to a monthly update.
>
> "Forced by my peers"? You're killing me!
>
> The Rogue's Gallery only exists for participants in this group.
>
> > I'm just a lurker who understands clearly what you are doing and why.
>
> If you really, truly believe that I'm posting here as an ulterior method
of
> "marketing" the hotel to this group, you clearly have NO understanding of
> the lodging industry -- or of me. Do you *really* think I'd spend an hour
> here, every day, for years on end, in hopes of luring one or two of you
> folks to Iowa?
>
> In February?
>
> Please. Give me a little more credit for brains.

Problem is, Jay, you credit HIM with brains...a most grievous assumption.

Don't try to argue with drunks, idiots, drug users or adolesants; he fits
all four categories.

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> "Jay Honeck" > writes:
>
> > Boy, talk about "damned with faint praise"... ;-)
>
> Don't take it personally. I'm well known for trash talking
> everything. Maybe my shrink can fix it...

I hope he has a BIG torque wrench! :~)

[Jack Allison]

> If anyone else feels the same way then ask Jay the same question
> and see for yourself what his response is.

Nope, I don't feel the same way. So long as Jay's sig. adheres to the "--"
standard, (and it does), who cares? Don't change a thing Jay! At least
you've got the guts to put your real name and e-mail address in your posts.
More than can be said about some folks.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Jack Allison]

> - has too much energy
> - has too much time
> - doesn't have a life
> - all of the above

Curse you Jay...now I finally know why I wake up every day trying to figure
out how to fly to Iowa City and how I can stay in each of the suites at the
Alexis Park Inn! Since several folks that frequent this group have stayed
at your motel, obviously I'm not the only one affected by your prolific
posting (or the free beer at the pre-OSH gathering).

:-)

Ok, back to reality (whatever that is).

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Verbs Under My Gel]

Casual Observation > wrote in message >...
> > Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
> > > I see Jay H. is the biggest poster of all in aviation news groups.
> >
> > What do I win?
>
> Spammer of the month award.
>
> And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his
> SIG file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea.
>
> Jay I feel that YOU are spamming these aviation newsgroups with
> your SIG file and your constant references to your website and
> I am politely asking you to drop any reference to AlexisParkInn
> from future postings.
>
> If anyone else feels the same way then ask Jay the same question
> and see for yourself what his response is.


What's this "AlexisParkInn" you speak of? Sounds like a place I might
like to visit. Tell me more!

[Jay Honeck]

> Curse you Jay...now I finally know why I wake up every day trying to
figure
> out how to fly to Iowa City and how I can stay in each of the suites at
the
> Alexis Park Inn!

See? Obvious evidence that I'm an incredibly skillful Subliminal Spammer!

One down...sixty-hundred-eight-thousand to go....

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Peter R.]

Casual Observation ) wrote:

> So what's left to you besides having the URL as part of your SIG file,
> and what better way to get your SIG file out there than to become the
> de facto most prolific poster in aviation related newsgroups.

You obviously do not know Usenet protocol. Posting a one or two line sig
containing a link about one's own business is acceptable practice.

Jay contributes to this group far more than he benefits from his sig
containing a link to his business.



--
Peter












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[G.R. Patterson III]

Bob Fry wrote:
>
> Don't take it personally. I'm well known for trash talking
> everything. Maybe my shrink can fix it...

I thought you said he's an incompetent charlatan? :-)

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Newps]

Jack Allison wrote:

> Nope, I don't feel the same way. So long as Jay's sig. adheres to the "--"
> standard, (and it does), who cares?

Your kiddin' right? Two little dashes mean the difference between
feeling all warm and fuzzy and getting ****ed off? Man, get a life.

[Teacherjh]

>>
Your kiddin' right? Two little dashes mean the difference between
feeling all warm and fuzzy and getting ****ed off? Man, get a life.
<<

Two little dashes, AND a space, and the software that knows what to do with
them.

Jose


--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Jay Honeck]

> Two little dashes, AND a space, and the software that knows what to do
with
> them.

Even that doesn't placate some. Heck, Martin is ALWAYS on my case about my
signature line, even though it follows this protocol.

Of course, Martin could use some decaf when it comes to just about every
topic...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bob Fry]

"G.R. Patterson III" > writes:

> Bob Fry wrote:
> >
>
> I thought you said he's an incompetent charlatan? :-)

Those words don't sound like me, but I'll check on Google.

I'm more likely to simply call him an ass when he praises Bush ;-)

[Jay Honeck]

> it is "dash dash space" :-)

Which is precisely what mine is, followed by the four lines.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Peter R.]

Jay Honeck ) wrote:

> Which is precisely what mine is, followed by the four lines.

Four lines? Uh...

1) Jay Honeck
2) Iowa City, IA
3) Pathfinder N56993
4) www.AlexisParkInn.com
5) "Your Aviation Destination"



You count like my four year old. :)


--
Peter












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[old man]

Jay want to thank you for all your posts and also the valuable
information....where to stay in Iowa City.



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"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:1VJ_b.389586$xy6.2201828@attbi_s02...
> > it is "dash dash space" :-)
>
> Which is precisely what mine is, followed by the four lines.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jack Allison]

> Your kiddin' right? Two little dashes mean the difference between
> feeling all warm and fuzzy and getting ****ed off?

Um...where did I suggest that two dashes (and a space) mean the difference
between feeling warm/fuzzy and getting ****ed off? Jay's sig. line does
neither to me. I merely disagree with the original poster (C. Observer,
"And if anyone thinks I'm joking - then (politely) ask Jay to drop his SIG
file advert from future posts and see what he says to that idea."). IIRC, I
think you're allowed to disagree out here in usenet land.

>Man, get a life.

Great suggestion but I already have one that I'm quite satisfied with.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Jay Honeck]

> Four lines? Uh...
>
> 1) Jay Honeck
> 2) Iowa City, IA
> 3) Pathfinder N56993
> 4) www.AlexisParkInn.com
> 5) "Your Aviation Destination"
>
> You count like my four year old. :)

Sorry, I guess I consider my name to be "required" -- and everything else
that follows as my "signature line"...

Quite silly, I know, in a newsgroup so full of anonymous posters...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jack Allison]

> Quite silly, I know, in a newsgroup so full of anonymous posters...

And incredibly skillful Subliminal Spammers :-)

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Newps]

And even if he put his sig at the top who cares? Are you that anal?

Martin Hotze wrote:

> "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>
>
>>>it is "dash dash space" :-)
>>
>>Which is precisely what mine is,
>
>
>
> it is now. But about a year (?) or so ago it was only "dash dash"
>
>
>>followed by the four lines.
>
>
> I read 5 lines:
>
> seperator: --
> 1 Jay Honeck
> 2 Iowa City, IA
> 3 Pathfinder N56993
> 4 www.AlexisParkInn.com
> 5 "Your Aviation Destination"
>
> #m

[Peter R.]

Martin Hotze ) wrote:

> Peter R. > wrote:
<snip>
> >
> > You count like my four year old. :)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> and he/she is 5 years old? :-))

Ha! It took me a couple of reads, but I finally got it. :)

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[Newps]

Martin Hotze wrote:

> Newps > wrote:
>
>
>>And even if he put his sig at the top who cares? Are you that anal?
>
>
> where do you hold when you get a "hold short" instruction from tower? do you
> care to be just a little bit over the line?

Well we're talking about sig lines here. If you go over the hold short
line you might get can openered by that jet on short final. I'm pretty
sure that can't happen on a newsgroup.