Re: Viet Nam Aircraft?

[Don Tuite]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:18:05 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam war?

B-52, unfortunately.

Don

[Jim]

Jet = F4
prop = Skyraider or O2
bomber = B52
whirlybird = HU2
--
Jim Burns III

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"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
war?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[john smith]

Jim wrote:
> Jet = F4
> prop = Skyraider or O2
> bomber = B52
> whirlybird = HU2

It depends on what you were doing.

Bombing: USAF F-105 Thunderchief
Navy A-6 Intruder

FAC: O-1 Birddog
OV-10 Bronco

Close Air Support: F-100 (early days)
A-7D/E Corsair II
A-1D/E SANDY
A-4 SkyRaider

Surveillance: RB-66 Destroyer (USAF)
OV-1 Mohawk (Army)
A-3 Vigilante (Navy)

SAR: SH-3 Navy
HH-3 USAF

ECM: F-105 USAF (two seater)
EA-6 NAVY (four-seater)

[Ben Smith]

Refueling: KC-135

[Gig Giacona]

UH-1 Huey without a doubt.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
war?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam war?

There were a bunch, but I tend to think of Hueys, Phantoms, and Bird Dogs.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Tarver Engineering]

UH1.

Vietnam was the first rotary wing war.

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
war?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jim]

Just to complicate your life a little I'll suggest this. What about
createing a suite to honor Heros of Air Power, like the series on the Wings
Channel. You could have pictures and articles on several people in the same
suite. You may even be able to turn it into some kind of dedication to the
top pilots and aircraft of each war or time period.
--
Jim Burns III

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[Dennis O'Connor]

A fighter pilot I treated two years ago <retired by then> had flown
everything from the early 70's through the current stuff... When I asked him
which he thought was the best, or the most fun to fly, without hesitation he
said, "D model Phantom... Hands down the best... And even today, in a low
altitude gunfight I can scare the crap out of an F15 driver, with one..."

Read this account:
"That was impressive to us; but, on the return trip, we executed a high
performance takeoff from the underused air station. Again, staying in
afterburner, we took off, maintained about 20 feet off the ground until the
end of the runway. We had gone 8000 feet horizontally and our speed was more
than 500 knots. Pulling up hard, we climbed almost straight up. A short time
after clearance to take off, the controller told us to call passing 2500
feet. My answer: 'You're a little late. We just passed 22000 feet.' He
asked; 'What kind of aircraft?' 'A Foxtrot 4' I replied. His answer came
back 'WOW!' It truly was a ball to fly." - Al Lehman



denny

"Jay Honeck" > wrote > I guess that leaves the F-4
Phantom?

[Jay Honeck]

> Just to complicate your life a little I'll suggest this. What about
> createing a suite to honor Heros of Air Power, like the series on the
Wings
> Channel. You could have pictures and articles on several people in the
same
> suite. You may even be able to turn it into some kind of dedication to the
> top pilots and aircraft of each war or time period.

I like it, Jim, but you have to remember that we're appealing to a mass
audience -- most of whom are NOT pilots.

Also, the majority of reservations are made by women. Non-pilot women.

Thus, not surprisingly, most of the women reserve the "Memphis Belle" suite,
cuz they think it sounds pretty, or the "Red Baron Suite" cuz they think it
sounds romantic.

Most of the guys, on the other hand, go for the "Mustang Suite" cuz it's
cool.

The themes, therefore, must be "dual purpose"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim]

Ok, one side of the suite is of men (Doolittle, Yeager, etc) and the other
side is of Earhardt, Cochran, Sallie Ride, the WASPs, 99s, Riveting Rosie,
etc. I'm sure Mary or others in the group that can suggest prominent women
that have contributed greatly to aviation. I think your women customers
would get a real "Wow! I didn't know these women did this or that!" out of
it. But like I said, I'm probably just complicating your life! :)

Anyway, back to VN aircraft. The Huey represents saving lives better than
the fighters and the bombers. You might be able to turn that into a
positive theme where featuring B52's or F4's may take on negative aspects.
--
Jim Burns III

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[Gerry Caron]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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>
> I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom?
>
Phantoms Phorever!!! AKA Rhino or Double Ugly.

A truly great aircraft. Flown by AF, Navy, and Marines. Lots of history,
stories, etc. to build a theme around.

Gerry

[john smith]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> In my opinion, the aircraft that best symbolizes that war was the Huey
> helicopter. Unfortunately, the Huey is about as romantic as a storage
> locker.

No bed, just a storage locker? That sounds kinda kinky!
;-))

[john smith]

Jim wrote:
> Anyway, back to VN aircraft. The Huey represents saving lives better than
> the fighters and the bombers. You might be able to turn that into a
> positive theme where featuring B52's or F4's may take on negative aspects.

The MASH Suite?
(Wanna play doctor and patient?);-))

[lardsoup]

And the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s. Super plane!

>"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02...
> Now, however, we're about to open the Blackbird Suite -- the 1960s super
spyplane

[Bob]

> Jim > wrote:

> I'm sure Mary or others in the group that can suggest prominent women
> that have contributed greatly to aviation.

How about a wall done up as a large photograph of the young naked girl
running down the road covered in napalm burns Jay. I'm sure all you
"vets" have got that one seared into her mind. She certainly did her
part to show how effective aviation was during that little war.

Or perhaps an aerial shot of a mud hut village full of dead peasants
who met "Puff the Magic Dragon" up close and personal.

> I think your women customers would get a real "Wow!

Well considering that it's women who give birth I'm sure they
will get a real "Wow!" over it too.

> Anyway, back to VN aircraft. The Huey represents saving lives better than
> the fighters and the bombers.

Tell that to the vietnamese peasants killed in the rice paddies simply
because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

> You might be able to turn that into a positive theme where
> featuring B52's or F4's may take on negative aspects.

I suppose.

[Henry Kisor]

The F-4 Phantom?
The A-4 Skyhawk?

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
war?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> How about a wall done up as a large photograph of the young naked girl
> running down the road covered in napalm burns Jay. I'm sure all you
> "vets" have got that one seared into her mind.

Jeez, you're a pleasant chap. Feeling especially bitter today?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Gerry Caron]

"Gerry Caron" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02...
> >
> > I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom?
> >
> Phantoms Phorever!!! AKA Rhino or Double Ugly.
>
> A truly great aircraft. Flown by AF, Navy, and Marines. Lots of
history,
> stories, etc. to build a theme around.
>
This thread brought back some dead brain cells. Almost forgot about one of
the military flyer's favorite artists; Hank Caruso. Check out his stuff at:

http://www.aerocatures.com/

Several are NOT appropriate for public display in a business -- as he
states: politically incorrect. But some are light hearted.

He even does custom pieces. You might consider commissioning one for the
inn. That would be cool.

Gerry

[Jerry]

H model Huey Helicopter

Jerry (11th ACR, Quan Loi, RVN, 1969-1970.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> > Jet = F4
> > prop = Skyraider or O2
> > bomber = B52
> > whirlybird = HU2
>
> This question sprang from a conversation I had with a guest who suggested
> that we "do" a suite for all Viet Nam vets.
>
> Up till now, we've only honored historic aircraft (Spirit of St. Louis;
> Fokker Triplane; Pan Am Clipper; Wright Flyer; Constellation) and World
War
> II stuff (Memphis Belle; P-51 Mustang). Now, however, we're about to open
> the Blackbird Suite -- the 1960s super spyplane -- so we're branching out
a
> bit.
>
> Thus, the guest's suggestion. In his opinion, the Viet Nam boys deserve a
> suite "of their own," and I certainly agree. So, we're tossing around
> ideas.
>
> In my opinion, the aircraft that best symbolizes that war was the Huey
> helicopter. Unfortunately, the Huey is about as romantic as a storage
> locker. The second most ubiquitous aircraft -- the one we always saw on
the
> 6 o'clock news -- was the B-52 Stratofortress. Again, this is not an
> aircraft we can build a theme suite around, in Mary's opinion. (I rather
> like the idea of a "BUFF Suite" myself... ;-)
>
> I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[C J Campbell]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
war?
> --

UH1 Huey.

[BTIZ]

Rolling Thunder.. B-52

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Jim wrote:
> > Jet = F4
> > prop = Skyraider or O2
> > bomber = B52
> > whirlybird = HU2
>
> It depends on what you were doing.
>
> Bombing: USAF F-105 Thunderchief
> Navy A-6 Intruder
>
> FAC: O-1 Birddog
> OV-10 Bronco
>
> Close Air Support: F-100 (early days)
> A-7D/E Corsair II
> A-1D/E SANDY
> A-4 SkyRaider
>
> Surveillance: RB-66 Destroyer (USAF)
> OV-1 Mohawk (Army)
> A-3 Vigilante (Navy)
>
> SAR: SH-3 Navy
> HH-3 USAF
>
> ECM: F-105 USAF (two seater)
> EA-6 NAVY (four-seater)
>

[BTIZ]

if you are going to do the F-4... do both AF and Marine versions.. also the
F-4G "Wild Weasel".. now there is a theme real close to the "in the Buff"
idea..

BTW.. I flew B-52Gs.. what's the Mrs. got against having 8 thrusters and
carrying a heavy load..

BT

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02...
> > Jet = F4
> > prop = Skyraider or O2
> > bomber = B52
> > whirlybird = HU2
>
> This question sprang from a conversation I had with a guest who suggested
> that we "do" a suite for all Viet Nam vets.
>
> Up till now, we've only honored historic aircraft (Spirit of St. Louis;
> Fokker Triplane; Pan Am Clipper; Wright Flyer; Constellation) and World
War
> II stuff (Memphis Belle; P-51 Mustang). Now, however, we're about to open
> the Blackbird Suite -- the 1960s super spyplane -- so we're branching out
a
> bit.
>
> Thus, the guest's suggestion. In his opinion, the Viet Nam boys deserve a
> suite "of their own," and I certainly agree. So, we're tossing around
> ideas.
>
> In my opinion, the aircraft that best symbolizes that war was the Huey
> helicopter. Unfortunately, the Huey is about as romantic as a storage
> locker. The second most ubiquitous aircraft -- the one we always saw on
the
> 6 o'clock news -- was the B-52 Stratofortress. Again, this is not an
> aircraft we can build a theme suite around, in Mary's opinion. (I rather
> like the idea of a "BUFF Suite" myself... ;-)
>
> I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[nooneimportant]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:1et_b.388689$na.600737@attbi_s04...
> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
war?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

Develop the HU2 idea some... Think 4post Canopy Bed fashioned rougly like
the HU2s "cargo" area, scale will definately , soething like a roter blade
section extending from the top of the bed intneed to be skewed to make it
work... and to keep it below what ever cieling you have to fit it undero the
wall, and a few "accessories" to the "posts" to give it more of an aviation
feel so it doesn't look like a VWbus.. Mural paintings of other A/C on wall
with photo tributes to great vietnam pilots here and there, only downside to
the bed idea is that if not done exactly it will look like crap, and may
still depending on scale of the room... but its a late night sleep deprived
idea to consider.

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in>
> Jeez, you're a pleasant chap. Feeling especially bitter today?
> --
Someone ****ed on his Weaties this morning. I won't have to read his
attitude again.
--

Jim in NC


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[Cub Driver]

>What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam war?

I'm surprised that you should ask. There is no contender: the Huey is
the bird.

I spent three months in Vietnam, forty years ago. Since then I have
heard and seen Hueys in all sorts of situations, and I have probably
flown more hours in a Huey going skiing in British Columbia than I
ever did in Vietnam.

But whenever I heard that whump-whump-whump, it is the hot green
fields of Vietnam that flash into my mind. I can almost smell the nuoc
mam (if I spell it correctly: rotten-fish sauce, to the American
mind).


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (requires authentication)

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

[Cub Driver]

>Unfortunately, the Huey is about as romantic as a storage
>locker.

Oh, no, Jay. When I went to Udvar-Hazy last month, I spent as much
time gazing into the Huey as I did at the Hurricane. And I wished
harder that I could get inside for a sit!


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (requires authentication)

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

[Jay Honeck]

> Develop the HU2 idea some... Think 4post Canopy Bed fashioned rougly like
> the HU2s "cargo" area,

I like it, but that's not something we do.

Early on we decided against the "make the beds look like little Mustangs"
motif.

Why? Cuz, (a) it ends up looking too much like my 13 year old son's bedroom,
and (b) as you point out, if not done right, it looks really dumb.

Our theme suites honor the past with artwork and memorabilia. The beds are
the best money can buy, and they look like beds because, in the end, these
are still working hotel suites, and must function that way for the majority
of our guests -- most of whom don't know anything about aviation.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Ben Smith]

Jay - how about a framed Blood Chit? They come up on eBay once in a while.
The authentic ones from the era go for over $100.. But there's a guy on
there that sells repro's too.

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y

[Jay Honeck]

> Oh, no, Jay. When I went to Udvar-Hazy last month, I spent as much
> time gazing into the Huey as I did at the Hurricane. And I wished
> harder that I could get inside for a sit!

I agree, Dan, it's a cool machine, and it has saved many lives.

But romantic?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[G.R. Patterson III]

nooneimportant wrote:
>
> Develop the HU2 idea some...

And try to locate a photo of the "mushroom brigade" logo.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[John Galban]

"BTIZ" > wrote in message news:<DkA_b.6218$aZ3.1012@fed1read04>...
> if you are going to do the F-4... do both AF and Marine versions.. also the
> F-4G "Wild Weasel".. now there is a theme real close to the "in the Buff"
> idea..
>
What, you got something against the Navy? :-)

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[john smith]

John Galban wrote:
> "BTIZ" > wrote in message news:<DkA_b.6218$aZ3.1012@fed1read04>...
>
>>if you are going to do the F-4... do both AF and Marine versions.. also the
>>F-4G "Wild Weasel".. now there is a theme real close to the "in the Buff"
>>idea..
>>
>
> What, you got something against the Navy? :-)

He included the Marines!

[Mike Weller]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:20:10 GMT, Bob > wrote:


>How about a wall done up as a large photograph of the young naked girl
>running down the road covered in napalm burns

<snip a ...>

Thank you, Senator Kerry.

[Pepperoni]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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Dick Forrey, the man who started the anti-Target brouhaha, has since
admitted his mistake:

I made a mistake on this one, and I've learned a hard lesson — that's for
sure. What started out as a message for the members in our organization has
turned into a hate-type thing. I never wanted to start any national boycott.
I just wish it would all stop.

Some people have used my words and perpetuated lies. It's sad that some of
these people would use veterans as a way to push their own political views.
I've sent out a retraction, and no one pays any attention.
>
> This question sprang from a conversation I had with a guest who suggested
> that we "do" a suite for all Viet Nam vets.
>
> Up till now, we've only honored historic aircraft (Spirit of St. Louis;
> Fokker Triplane; Pan Am Clipper; Wright Flyer; Constellation) and World
War
> II stuff (Memphis Belle; P-51 Mustang). Now, however, we're about to open
> the Blackbird Suite -- the 1960s super spyplane -- so we're branching out
a
> bit.
>
> Thus, the guest's suggestion. In his opinion, the Viet Nam boys deserve a
> suite "of their own," and I certainly agree. So, we're tossing around
> ideas.
>
> In my opinion, the aircraft that best symbolizes that war was the Huey
> helicopter. Unfortunately, the Huey is about as romantic as a storage
> locker. The second most ubiquitous aircraft -- the one we always saw on
the
> 6 o'clock news -- was the B-52 Stratofortress. Again, this is not an
> aircraft we can build a theme suite around, in Mary's opinion. (I rather
> like the idea of a "BUFF Suite" myself... ;-)
>
> I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

The plane that hauled the weight "out back" was the Caribou. Rugged, short
field capable and didn't mind getting the wheels dirty.

Second choice for the field soldier's limousine would have to be the
Chinook.

Pepperoni

[Big John]

Jay

One of the unsung hero's of the war in VN was the C-130. They hauled
'trash' day and night to support the Army from the big airfields to
the laderite (clay) strips used by the FAC's, choppers, etc.

I remember well one time i had just landed on a 7-800 foot laderite
strip and turned off end of R/W in my 0-1. I looked back and here was
a C-130 on short final dragging it in. He chopped power (Or maybe
reversed in air) and smacked on the end of th R/W and immediately went
to full reverse on the props. This sucked up a cloud of red dust and I
lost the plane in the cloud. All I could see was his wing tips swaying
back and forth sticking our of the cloud as he applied full brakes and
reverse. Was still going like a bat out of hell and I goosed the
engine pretty hard and taxied away from the end of the R/W where I
thought he would run off and burn. As the 130 approached the end of
the R/W it slowed down and finally made a high speed 90 degree turn
off the R/W. He then taxied to the side of the field opposite the
center of R/W and opened his ramp and four rubber bladders rolled out
the back on the ground like big wide inner tubes that could be hooked
together and pulled to where they were needed.

The 130 never stopped while they were rolling out the back and went on
to the end of the R/W and lined right on the end. Ran the engines up
to full power and used about 2/3 of that little R/W that I used about
3/4 in the 0-1 and flew back to get more supplies.

I never pass the chance to pat those guys on the back as no one else
will. I saw what they did and give them full credit for a job well
done.

If we got any 130 crews on the thread they should speak up and tell
some of their stories.
Big John

If you talk to the 'grunts', besides CAS they will all tell you the
130 hauled everything they needed and flew day and night, sun and
rain.

I really took my hats off to those jocks.

Big John



On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:18:05 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam war?

[Pepperoni]

I'm sorry. I seem to have somehow combined two posts (to two different
newsgroups) while trimming to post here. I have no idea how that happened.
What a mess.
****************
"Pepperoni" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02...
>
> The plane that hauled the weight "out back" was the Caribou. Rugged,
short
> field capable and didn't mind getting the wheels dirty.
>
> Second choice for the field soldier's limousine would have to be the
> Chinook.
>
> Pepperoni
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> I'm sorry. I seem to have somehow combined two posts (to two different
> newsgroups) while trimming to post here. I have no idea how that
happened.
> What a mess.

Thanks for the clarification...

Whew -- I thought I was losing it there for a minute!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Pepperoni]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:_4d%b.406270$xy6.2316403@attbi_s02...
> > I'm sorry. I seem to have somehow combined two posts (to two different
> > newsgroups) while trimming to post here. I have no idea how that
> happened.
> > What a mess.
>
> Thanks for the clarification...
>
> Whew -- I thought I was losing it there for a minute!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

It's embarrasing. I must have hit "Paste" instead of "cut" while trying to
trim.

[ShawnD2112]

Jay,
How about one that every pilot would know and thank you for...the Jolly
Green? It may or may not mean much to Army helo pilots (I don't know) but
the USAF boys would know it and it's meaning right away. OK, it's ugly as
hell and even less romantic than a Huey, but it's the one that has mostly
positive elements to it's association.

Shawn

"Gerry Caron" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02...
> >
> > I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom?
> >
> Phantoms Phorever!!! AKA Rhino or Double Ugly.
>
> A truly great aircraft. Flown by AF, Navy, and Marines. Lots of
history,
> stories, etc. to build a theme around.
>
> Gerry
>
>

[Mackfly]

Jay
For me it was the C-140A--Lockheed Jetstar. Flight Check outfit--1867th
Facilities Checking Sq. I've flown into near all bases in Nam ( all that you
could get that bird into and out of0, even did some approaches to helo pads.
From the rear seat---flying crew chief on the 140A way back then. Mac

[C J Campbell]

"Big John" > wrote in message
...
> Jay
>
> One of the unsung hero's of the war in VN was the C-130. They hauled
> 'trash' day and night to support the Army from the big airfields to
> the laderite (clay) strips used by the FAC's, choppers, etc.
>

"Klong-Hopper Airlines. The proud bird with the camouflage tail."

[Dima Volodin]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam war?

MiG-17 and MiG-21.

> Jay Honeck

Dima

[Jay Honeck]

> > What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
war?
> MiG-17 and MiG-21.

Hmmm. Good point, but probably not appropriate for a romantic suite.

Actually, we may just decide to leave Viet Nam alone. As Mr. Kerry and Mr.
Bush have proven, it's still a VERY divisive war.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Brian Burger]

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Jay Honeck wrote:

> > > What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam
> war?
> > MiG-17 and MiG-21.
>
> Hmmm. Good point, but probably not appropriate for a romantic suite.
>
> Actually, we may just decide to leave Viet Nam alone. As Mr. Kerry and Mr.
> Bush have proven, it's still a VERY divisive war.

Some of the discussion on this group when you first brought it up also
proved that it might not be the best choice for a themed hotel room... I
think staying away from Vietnam is a good idea!

Brian.

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Late to the thread... Here are my Vietnam-era favs:

Hughes OH-6 "Loach"
Huey
OV-10 Bronco
Cessna, um, the 337 one (0-2?)

BTW the Migs never even occurred to me. AFAIK they didn't play a
significant role.

Dave Blevins

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:47:12 -0500, Dima Volodin > wrote:

>Jay Honeck wrote:
>>
>> What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam war?
>
>MiG-17 and MiG-21.
>
>> Jay Honeck
>
>Dima