CGX closed (WHY!)

[Tlewis95]

I am ashamed and embarrased to live in the same state the govenor of Chicago
does.
What he did to Meigs was irrisponsible,childish, immature,cowardly and
increadbly retarded! For those that do not know what im talkin about, the so
called "mayor" of Chicago, Richard M. Daley, destroyed Merril C. Meigs field
without permission from the state or anyone else. last year he snuk bulldozers
on to the CGX runway and carved 4 Xs in the runway. In the morning plane took
off from the taxiway and the ones that coulnd were put on trucks. He says he
did because it was a "risk to Chicago" because of its close proximity to
downtown Chicago. Its taken me this long to realize that HE IS THE TERRORIST.
He caused pain, suffering, money, convenence and happyness to deteriorate among
us pilots. He must want us to host flyins and Young Eagle Rallys at O'Hare :).
I am going to write letters to Daley and the Govenor praying for mercy to
reopen CGX. Its caseing the Chicago economy to drop and MDW and ORD to become
busier. Thats why IL wants a reliver airport for O'Hare, all the Genral
Aviation traffic is at O'Hare and Midway now instead of the "Prettiest Little
airport on the planet" So, what do you think, shoud we all write letters, send
E-mails etc.
And if you, could, tell some of your stories about CGX (those that have flown
there) it has bee a dream of mine since I was 5 and no because of that baby
Daley, I can't fulfill that. Neither could other pilots I would imagine.

Thanks,
Trace Lewis

age 13

[Jay Honeck]

> And if you, could, tell some of your stories about CGX (those that have
flown
> there) it has bee a dream of mine since I was 5 and no because of that
baby
> Daley, I can't fulfill that. Neither could other pilots I would imagine.

You go get 'em, Trace. You (and other folks your age) are the only hope
Chicago has for a bright, "Daley-less" future.

I was fortunate enough to fly into Meigs several times, and it was memorable
each time. After having flown that final approach to RWY 36 countless times
in "Flight Simulator," it felt curiously familiar -- in a surreal way -- to
be sliding down that glideslope "for real" to a gentle touchdown on that
beautiful peninsula. The skyscrapers on the left, and the deep blue of
Lake Michigan on the right, made for a picture perfect arrival.

And, of course, the time spent in downtown Chicago was priceless. Taking my
kids to Ed Debevec's for an "abusive lunch" was worth every penny we paid in
landing fees. (My 13 year old son, Joey, STILL talks about that flight...)

I still cringe involuntarily every time I think about bulldozers ripping up
that gorgeous, one-of-a-kind facility. :-(

The monster Daley must be crushed. In five years you can vote -- use that
power wisely, and influence everyone you can to do the same thing.

Take care,
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Kevin Chandler]

I use to fly into CGX often for weekend getaways or shows at McCormick
Place.. I have not been back to Chicago since he closed the airport. I
don't plan on ever coming back. Downtown hotels are generally empty on the
weekend. There is now one more empty hotel room since Daley screwed up.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> I still cringe involuntarily every time I think about bulldozers ripping up
> that gorgeous, one-of-a-kind facility. :-(

Finally happened yesterday! I got some junk mail from an outfit in Chicago! I
got right on the computer and sent them a polite letter to the effect that I
don't do business with Chicago firms since Daley trashed Meigs.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

[Dylan Smith]

In article <KhW_b.10612$AL.268999@attbi_s03>, Jay Honeck wrote:
> I was fortunate enough to fly into Meigs several times, and it was memorable
> each time. After having flown that final approach to RWY 36 countless times
> in "Flight Simulator," it felt curiously familiar -- in a surreal way -- to
> be sliding down that glideslope "for real" to a gentle touchdown on that
> beautiful peninsula.

I've done them both too.

Except in real life the framerate doesn't drop to 5 fps as you turn
towards the skyscrapers...

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

[Andrew Gideon]

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Dylan Smith wrote:

> Except in real life the framerate doesn't drop to 5 fps as you turn
> towards the skyscrapers...

Sadly, there's no way for me to be sure of this.

- Andrew

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[Tlewis95]

That was one of the reasons its affecting the economy.
This spring I am flying to Midway and plan to fly over the lakefront and pay my
tribute and respect to meigs, even if I cant land there I can do a flyby or an
approach with a goarond at the last minute.

[Jeff]

I flew into Meigs first in 1991 after a trip to Oshkosh. Like Jay, I had
flown many times on
flight simulator into Meigs, long before I had even taken a flying lesson.
That landing was a
thrill of my life, on par with my first solo flight. My friend (fellow
pilot and co-owner of our 172)
had the time of our lives in Chicago that weekend.

Since that first time, my friend and I, and my wife and I ,made many trips
to Meigs.
Each trip was memorable. I mourn the loss of Meigs like all.
I feel very fortunate to have flown into one of the most wonderful flying
destinations, and I
truly feel sorry for those who weren't able to.

I no longer travel to Chicago not because of a protest to Mayor Daley. I
just can't figure out a
practical way to fly there and get to downtown. And, of course, flying to
another airport would
be such a letdown.

Now I have a young boy, and I feel bad that I will never be able to share
that particular joy with
him. I envy Jay being able to fly there with his family.

-Jeff

P.S. I enjoy hearing other peoples stories of flying into Meigs. Perhaps it
will ease the pain. :)

[John Galban]

(Tlewis95) wrote in message >...
> That was one of the reasons its affecting the economy.
> This spring I am flying to Midway and plan to fly over the lakefront and pay my
> tribute and respect to meigs, even if I cant land there I can do a flyby or an
> approach with a goarond at the last minute.

You're flying to Midway? Most of us that are really upset about
Meigs are refusing to fly to ANY Chicago airport. Mr. Daley will get
no landing fees or fuel flowage fees from my pocket.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Bill Denton]

Best of both worlds:

KPWK - Palwaukee

KDPA - Du Page

Nice sized airports, in the metro area, but outside of the Chicago city
limits.

Better than not giving your money to Daley, you can give it to the guys just
across the fence...




"John Galban" > wrote in message
om...
> (Tlewis95) wrote in message
>...
> > That was one of the reasons its affecting the economy.
> > This spring I am flying to Midway and plan to fly over the lakefront and
pay my
> > tribute and respect to meigs, even if I cant land there I can do a flyby
or an
> > approach with a goarond at the last minute.
>
> You're flying to Midway? Most of us that are really upset about
> Meigs are refusing to fly to ANY Chicago airport. Mr. Daley will get
> no landing fees or fuel flowage fees from my pocket.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Tlewis95]

Good point! Pawlwaukee it is, but the monster cant charge pilots for flying
over the lakefront, can it?

P.S. The monster is Daley

Trace Lewis age 13

[Bill Denton]

Oh, no problem. You can fly up and down the lakefront and over the city as
much as you want to. At least until the F-18's get a lock on you ;)


"Tlewis95" > wrote in message
...
> Good point! Pawlwaukee it is, but the monster cant charge pilots for
flying
> over the lakefront, can it?
>
> P.S. The monster is Daley
>
> Trace Lewis age 13

[Dave Stadt]

You can fly up and down the lakefront all you want. It is actually easier
without Meigs in the way. Less security also without the tower to talk to.
I don't think the little guy thought of that.

"Bill Denton" > wrote in message
...
> Oh, no problem. You can fly up and down the lakefront and over the city as
> much as you want to. At least until the F-18's get a lock on you ;)
>
>
> "Tlewis95" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Good point! Pawlwaukee it is, but the monster cant charge pilots for
> flying
> > over the lakefront, can it?
> >
> > P.S. The monster is Daley
> >
> > Trace Lewis age 13
>
>

[Tlewis95]

My letter is sent!
If you would like a copy, send me an E-mail at



titled= can i see Trace's CGX letter?

[Jay Somerset]

Where were you several months ago when all this was happening? Kinda late
to moan about it now!

On 24 Feb 2004 04:27:08 GMT, (Tlewis95) wrote:

> I am ashamed and embarrased to live in the same state the govenor of Chicago
> does.
> What he did to Meigs was irrisponsible,childish, immature,cowardly and
> increadbly retarded! For those that do not know what im talkin about, the so
> called "mayor" of Chicago, Richard M. Daley, destroyed Merril C. Meigs field
> without permission from the state or anyone else. last year he snuk bulldozers
> on to the CGX runway and carved 4 Xs in the runway. In the morning plane took
> off from the taxiway and the ones that coulnd were put on trucks. He says he
> did because it was a "risk to Chicago" because of its close proximity to
> downtown Chicago. Its taken me this long to realize that HE IS THE TERRORIST.
> He caused pain, suffering, money, convenence and happyness to deteriorate among
> us pilots. He must want us to host flyins and Young Eagle Rallys at O'Hare :).
> I am going to write letters to Daley and the Govenor praying for mercy to
> reopen CGX. Its caseing the Chicago economy to drop and MDW and ORD to become
> busier. Thats why IL wants a reliver airport for O'Hare, all the Genral
> Aviation traffic is at O'Hare and Midway now instead of the "Prettiest Little
> airport on the planet" So, what do you think, shoud we all write letters, send
> E-mails etc.
> And if you, could, tell some of your stories about CGX (those that have flown
> there) it has bee a dream of mine since I was 5 and no because of that baby
> Daley, I can't fulfill that. Neither could other pilots I would imagine.
>
> Thanks,
> Trace Lewis
>
> age 13

[Chris Hoffmann]

Why is it too late? It's still closed, isn't it?

I thought the same thing initially - why now? But this is how it always goes
when gov't does something we don't agree with - a big uproar followed by
lots of opinion and hand wringing, until something else grabs our attention
and we put our energy into whining about that.

We need more people to keep moaning about it.


"Jay Somerset" > wrote in message
...
> Where were you several months ago when all this was happening? Kinda late
> to moan about it now!
>

[Randy at Home]

What about voting him out of office? If all the people in Chicago really
didn't support Daley, shouldn't they get out and vote? Or are you all afraid
of gangster politics?

"Chris Hoffmann" > wrote in message
...
| Why is it too late? It's still closed, isn't it?
|
| I thought the same thing initially - why now? But this is how it always
goes
| when gov't does something we don't agree with - a big uproar followed by
| lots of opinion and hand wringing, until something else grabs our
attention
| and we put our energy into whining about that.
|
| We need more people to keep moaning about it.
|
|
| "Jay Somerset" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Where were you several months ago when all this was happening? Kinda
late
| > to moan about it now!
| >
|
|

[Dave Stadt]

Nearly all the people in Chicago do support Daley. Last election he won by
the largest margin ever.

"Randy at Home" > wrote in
message able.rogers.com...
> What about voting him out of office? If all the people in Chicago really
> didn't support Daley, shouldn't they get out and vote? Or are you all
afraid
> of gangster politics?
>
> "Chris Hoffmann" > wrote in message
> ...
> | Why is it too late? It's still closed, isn't it?
> |
> | I thought the same thing initially - why now? But this is how it always
> goes
> | when gov't does something we don't agree with - a big uproar followed by
> | lots of opinion and hand wringing, until something else grabs our
> attention
> | and we put our energy into whining about that.
> |
> | We need more people to keep moaning about it.
> |
> |
> | "Jay Somerset" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > Where were you several months ago when all this was happening? Kinda
> late
> | > to moan about it now!
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

[Gary Drescher]

"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
om...
>
> You can fly up and down the lakefront all you want. It is actually easier
> without Meigs in the way. Less security also without the tower to talk
to.

Yup. With Meigs gone, you can fly next to the Sears Tower without even
having to communicate with ATC (as long as you don't come within 2000' of it
laterally).

--Gary

> I don't think the little guy thought of that.
>
> "Bill Denton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Oh, no problem. You can fly up and down the lakefront and over the city
as
> > much as you want to. At least until the F-18's get a lock on you ;)
> >
> >
> > "Tlewis95" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Good point! Pawlwaukee it is, but the monster cant charge pilots for
> > flying
> > > over the lakefront, can it?
> > >
> > > P.S. The monster is Daley
> > >
> > > Trace Lewis age 13
> >
> >
>
>

[Randy at Home]

Exactly. So the people in Chicago deserve all the ire pilots choose to toss
in their direction. But then, Chicago isn't exactly a friend to pilots (by
closing CGX) or passengers (by keeping ORD).

"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
om...
|
| Nearly all the people in Chicago do support Daley. Last election he won
by
| the largest margin ever.
|
| "Randy at Home" > wrote in
| message
able.rogers.com...
| > What about voting him out of office? If all the people in Chicago really
| > didn't support Daley, shouldn't they get out and vote? Or are you all
| afraid
| > of gangster politics?
| >
| > "Chris Hoffmann" > wrote in message
| > ...
| > | Why is it too late? It's still closed, isn't it?
| > |
| > | I thought the same thing initially - why now? But this is how it
always
| > goes
| > | when gov't does something we don't agree with - a big uproar followed
by
| > | lots of opinion and hand wringing, until something else grabs our
| > attention
| > | and we put our energy into whining about that.
| > |
| > | We need more people to keep moaning about it.
| > |
| > |
| > | "Jay Somerset" > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | > Where were you several months ago when all this was happening?
Kinda
| > late
| > | > to moan about it now!
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

[smackey]

My wife and I have flown to Chicago for the Blues Festival several
times. Each time landed at Meigs. Actually my first "real" IFR
flight after getting my Instrument rating was to Meigs. Wife was
looking to see who is playing at the festival this year, and I asked
her why. Then she said "oh yes, I forgot."

I haven't.

[Doug]

Can I land my Husky Seaplane on the lake at Chicago. Maybe at one of
the yacht harbors?

[Bill Denton]

I guess you never heard of the Museum Of Science And Industry. It belongs to
the Chicago Park District, which is also under the iron fist of Daley.

They have a submarine and they aren't afraid to use it!




"Doug" > wrote in message
om...
> Can I land my Husky Seaplane on the lake at Chicago. Maybe at one of
> the yacht harbors?

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
om...
>
> Nearly all the people in Chicago do support Daley. Last election he won
by
> the largest margin ever.

Like Saddamn Hussein getting 100% of the vote in Iraq's 2002 election.

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Randy at Home" > wrote in
message le.rogers.com...
> Exactly. So the people in Chicago deserve all the ire pilots choose to
toss
> in their direction. But then, Chicago isn't exactly a friend to pilots (by
> closing CGX) or passengers (by keeping ORD).
>
> "Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
> om...
> |
> | Nearly all the people in Chicago do support Daley. Last election he won
> by
> | the largest margin ever.


Ahhh...democracy!!

[Ron Natalie]

"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message om...
>
> You can fly up and down the lakefront all you want. It is actually easier
> without Meigs in the way. Less security also without the tower to talk to.
> I don't think the little guy thought of that.
>
He would have if security had anything to do with it. Security was an excuse.

[Maurice Givens]

"Randy at Home" > wrote in message gers.com>...
> Exactly. So the people in Chicago deserve all the ire pilots choose to toss
> in their direction. But then, Chicago isn't exactly a friend to pilots (by
> closing CGX) or passengers (by keeping ORD).
>


Keep in mind that the ballot does NOT have a box marked _NONE OF THE ABOVE_

[Randy at Home]

"Maurice Givens" > wrote in message
om...
| "Randy at Home" > wrote in
message gers.com>...
| > Exactly. So the people in Chicago deserve all the ire pilots choose to
toss
| > in their direction. But then, Chicago isn't exactly a friend to pilots
(by
| > closing CGX) or passengers (by keeping ORD).
| >
|
|
| Keep in mind that the ballot does NOT have a box marked _NONE OF THE
ABOVE_

After a 4 hour delay last night (which is 3 hours longer than the usual
weekly delay I experience), There should be a box marked _CLOSE_THE_AIRPORT_
;-)

[Greg Hopp]

I had to fly (commercially) into OHare last weekend enroute to White
Plains, NY. I felt like I betrayed my fellow pilots by doing so.

As we departed to the north, over the lake, I had a perfect view of
what little is left of Meigs. I couldn't look for long.

That was my first and last view of Meigs. What a sham(e).

Greg H.
N4691X