FS: ECCENTRIC ASSEMBLY TOOLs

[SteveB_Z5]

For Sale: ECCENTRIC ASSEMBLY TOOLs

Do you have trouble getting your wings in place that last little bit to
insert the wing pins? Then this is the tool you need. The tool fits
lots of different gliders from different manufactures. Known to work on
DG200 and 300, Pegasus, ASW-15, -17, -19 ,-20 (lots),-27, -28 and -29.
Any glider with a pin diameter of 1.41". Other sizes on request

$80 shipping included ($95 out of the US)

Steve
http://www.z5mfg.com/

[Papa3[_2_]]

I've seen some eccentric assembly tools before. We have one here at Blairstown, and it walks on two legs. It's called a Templin. Guaranteed to get any wings together regardless of make/model. Highly portable. Works on cheap beer.

P3

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:45:47 PM UTC-4, SteveB_Z5 wrote:
> For Sale: ECCENTRIC ASSEMBLY TOOLs
>
>
>
> Do you have trouble getting your wings in place that last little bit to
>
> insert the wing pins? Then this is the tool you need. The tool fits
>
> lots of different gliders from different manufactures. Known to work on
>
> DG200 and 300, Pegasus, ASW-15, -17, -19 ,-20 (lots),-27, -28 and -29.
>
> Any glider with a pin diameter of 1.41". Other sizes on request
>
>
>
> $80 shipping included ($95 out of the US)
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> http://www.z5mfg.com/

[SteveB_Z5]

On Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:41:30 AM UTC-7, Papa3 wrote:
> I've seen some eccentric assembly tools before. We have one here at Blairstown, and it walks on two legs. It's called a Templin. Guaranteed to get any wings together regardless of make/model. Highly portable. Works on cheap beer.
>
>
>
> P3

Could you arrange to have this tool at Warner Springs ~9:30 Saturday morning? Will have to except payment in good beer.
Steve

[JS]

Can Bobby keep in shape with expensive beer?
Maybe the Polish Racing Team kknows.
Jim

[Papa3[_2_]]

On Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:44:22 PM UTC-4, SteveB_Z5 wrote:
> On Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:41:30 AM UTC-7, Papa3 wrote:
>
> Could you arrange to have this tool at Warner Springs ~9:30 Saturday morning? Will have to except payment in good beer.
>
> Steve

There's your first mistake. Anything that costs more than $15.99 for a 30 pack (or for that matter, anything that's not sold in a 30 pack) simply won't work. In fact, you run the risk of upsetting the very delicate equilibrium that's been developed over the last 40 or so years of Bobby's beer drinking. Consequences could be dire indeed.

P3

[Tony[_5_]]

Round is a shape

[JS]

On Friday, March 15, 2013 5:40:00 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
> Round is a shape

And nobody mentioned the nickname that (as far as I know) Captain Kurt Staubach came up with.
Jim

[Karl Kunz[_2_]]

I used Steve's assembly tool all last season and really like. When I first looked at it I felt sure it would get bound up in the first pin hole but just a little twist and it comes right out. Well made and worth it especially if you are using a one man rigger.

-karl


On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:45:47 PM UTC-7, SteveB_Z5 wrote:
> For Sale: ECCENTRIC ASSEMBLY TOOLs
>
>
>
> Do you have trouble getting your wings in place that last little bit to
>
> insert the wing pins? Then this is the tool you need. The tool fits
>
> lots of different gliders from different manufactures. Known to work on
>
> DG200 and 300, Pegasus, ASW-15, -17, -19 ,-20 (lots),-27, -28 and -29.
>
> Any glider with a pin diameter of 1.41". Other sizes on request
>
>
>
> $80 shipping included ($95 out of the US)
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> http://www.z5mfg.com/

[[email protected]]

I agree this kind of tool is useful when one-man rigging, and this approach is very elegant. As an alternative, for the past 20 years I've used a 1" dia. length (about 12"-15") of Delrin or other hard plastic rod (i.e., anything softer than the bore of the spar bushings). When the wings are close but won't quite slide together, I just shove the rod into the bores and lever them the last bit. Obviously this won't work unless they're already fairly close but none of the eccentric tools will, AFAIK. The old Libelle 301 assembly wrench was the exception for two reasons: it grabbed pins glassed into the tops of the fork-and-tongue spars instead of fitting into the bores, and there was no turtledeck fuselage to get in the way so you could get a really wide angle with the wrench. I've seen guys try to lever 301 wings together when the pins weren't even quite engaged (unwise)!

Chip Bearden
ASW 24 "JB"
U.S.A.

[SteveB_Z5]

>I agree this kind of tool is useful when one-man rigging, and this approach is >very elegant. As an alternative, for the past 20 years I've used a 1" dia. >length (about 12"-15") of Delrin or other hard plastic rod (i.e., anything >softer than the bore of the spar bushings). When the wings are close but won't >quite slide together, I just shove the rod into the bores and lever them the >last bit. Obviously this won't work unless they're already fairly close but >none of the eccentric tools will, AFAIK. The old Libelle 301 assembly wrench >was the exception for two reasons: it grabbed pins glassed into the tops of >the fork-and-tongue spars instead of fitting into the bores, and there was no >turtledeck fuselage to get in the way so you could get a really wide angle >with the wrench. I've seen guys try to lever 301 wings together when the pins >weren't even quite engaged (unwise)!
>
>Chip Bearden
>ASW 24 "JB"
>U.S.A.

Chip,
My first 2 gliders both had levers for assembly (Jantar and Libelle) and I can't understand why more manufacturers don't use this method. The tools I make are made from Delrin to be nice to the spar bushings. The tool also protects the bushings from the wear of using the wing pins to bring the bushings into alinement. One would work quite well on your -24.

Steve

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

On 3/17/2013 4:47 PM, SteveB_Z5 wrote:
>> I agree this kind of tool is useful when one-man rigging, and this

> Chip, My first 2 gliders both had levers for assembly (Jantar and
> Libelle) and I can't understand why more manufacturers don't use this
> method. The tools I make are made from Delrin to be nice to the spar
> bushings. The tool also protects the bushings from the wear of using
> the wing pins to bring the bushings into alinement. One would work
> quite well on your -24.

I have used a steel eccentric tool (I like the Delrin idea better),
which did a nice job of pulling the wings together; however, my
experience on both an ASW 20 C (1500 hours, about 400 riggings) and an
ASH 26 E (3400 hours, about 700 riggings), is the wing pins don't wear
out the bushings. No discernible wear, in fact.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

[[email protected]]

On Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:56:51 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> On 3/17/2013 4:47 PM, SteveB_Z5 wrote:
>
> >> I agree this kind of tool is useful when one-man rigging, and this
>
>
>
> > Chip, My first 2 gliders both had levers for assembly (Jantar and
>
> > Libelle) and I can't understand why more manufacturers don't use this
>
> > method. The tools I make are made from Delrin to be nice to the spar
>
> > bushings. The tool also protects the bushings from the wear of using
>
> > the wing pins to bring the bushings into alinement. One would work
>
> > quite well on your -24.
>
>
>
> I have used a steel eccentric tool (I like the Delrin idea better),
>
> which did a nice job of pulling the wings together; however, my
>
> experience on both an ASW 20 C (1500 hours, about 400 riggings) and an
>
> ASH 26 E (3400 hours, about 700 riggings), is the wing pins don't wear
>
> out the bushings. No discernible wear, in fact.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
>
> email me)

Don't underestimate the importance of a good, preferably synthetic grease when assembling any glider. A couple of years ago my tie-down neighbor showed up with his brand-new ASG-29. We just about killed ourselves a couple of times trying to get the heavy inner wings on until I gave him my Super Lube synthetic grease (what a name!). He did have the undersized main pin from Schleicher to align the wings but that still didn't help much.
Super Lube to the rescue, don't go to the glider club without it!

[Dan Marotta]

My Mosquito, back in the 80s, came with an assembly lever like the Libelle.
I have a friend with a Mini Nimbus (same wing) and it has no such
capability. When he got the glider, part of the kit was a tire iron with
the sharp end dipped in the tool handle rubber stuff to soften it a bit.
The theory was to put that through the main pin bushings to pull the wings
together. I wonder why Shempp-Hirth copied the wings and not the assembly
method.


> wrote in message
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On Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:56:51 PM UTC-5, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> On 3/17/2013 4:47 PM, SteveB_Z5 wrote:
>
> >> I agree this kind of tool is useful when one-man rigging, and this
>
>
>
> > Chip, My first 2 gliders both had levers for assembly (Jantar and
>
> > Libelle) and I can't understand why more manufacturers don't use this
>
> > method. The tools I make are made from Delrin to be nice to the spar
>
> > bushings. The tool also protects the bushings from the wear of using
>
> > the wing pins to bring the bushings into alinement. One would work
>
> > quite well on your -24.
>
>
>
> I have used a steel eccentric tool (I like the Delrin idea better),
>
> which did a nice job of pulling the wings together; however, my
>
> experience on both an ASW 20 C (1500 hours, about 400 riggings) and an
>
> ASH 26 E (3400 hours, about 700 riggings), is the wing pins don't wear
>
> out the bushings. No discernible wear, in fact.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
>
> email me)

Don't underestimate the importance of a good, preferably synthetic grease
when assembling any glider. A couple of years ago my tie-down neighbor
showed up with his brand-new ASG-29. We just about killed ourselves a couple
of times trying to get the heavy inner wings on until I gave him my Super
Lube synthetic grease (what a name!). He did have the undersized main pin
from Schleicher to align the wings but that still didn't help much.
Super Lube to the rescue, don't go to the glider club without it!

[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

On Friday, March 15, 2013 12:21:40 PM UTC-5, JS wrote:
> On Friday, March 15, 2013 5:40:00 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote: > Round is a shape And nobody mentioned the nickname that (as far as I know) Captain Kurt Staubach came up with. Jim

JS, Maybe the Aussies can make a super lube product for wing pins? Maybe call it "Assemble, You *******!"

Steve
(Jim told me they make a fabulous starter fluid for engines called "Start, You *******!")

[Evan Ludeman[_4_]]

On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:01:42 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I wonder why Shempp-Hirth copied the wings and not the assembly
>
> method.


They have "Templins" at the Schempp Hirth Factory, so no problem!

T8

[JS[_4_]]

Of course the Aussies have a fabulous spray for such events...
http://www.inoxed.net/MX4.htm
Lanox contains Lanolin, made from sheep parts. Things just slip together if properly cleaned and lubed with this stuff. There's plenty of lanolin in Oz since sheep farming is big down there. I own / owned Cobra assembly tools but not used them with lanolin.
Lanox still can't top the starter fluid... What else would you yell at the engine?
http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Aerosols/Start_Ya_*******_Instant_Engine_Starter/#.UUfn-642d8E
There was a can (for entertainment value) in VJS trailer before shipping it Sydney to Long Beach, but I was advised not to ship something as flammable as ether.
Jim

On Monday, March 18, 2013 8:05:40 AM UTC-7, Steve Leonard wrote:
> On Friday, March 15, 2013 12:21:40 PM UTC-5, JS wrote:
>
> > On Friday, March 15, 2013 5:40:00 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote: > Round is a shape And nobody mentioned the nickname that (as far as I know) Captain Kurt Staubach came up with. Jim
>
>
>
> JS, Maybe the Aussies can make a super lube product for wing pins? Maybe call it "Assemble, You *******!"
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> (Jim told me they make a fabulous starter fluid for engines called "Start, You *******!")

[bumper[_4_]]

On Monday, March 18, 2013 6:08:25 AM UTC-7, wrote:
>
> Don't underestimate the importance of a good, preferably synthetic grease when assembling any glider. A couple of years ago my tie-down neighbor showed up with his brand-new ASG-29. We just about killed ourselves a couple of times trying to get the heavy inner wings on until I gave him my Super Lube synthetic grease (what a name!). He did have the undersized main pin from Schleicher to align the wings but that still didn't help much.
>
> Super Lube to the rescue, don't go to the glider club without it!

Super Lube is one of my favorites too, good for almost everything . . . with one exception. Don't even consider trying it on THAT!

bumper

[Dave Nadler]

On Friday, March 22, 2013 12:41:19 AM UTC-4, bumper wrote:
> Super Lube is one of my favorites too, good for almost everything
> . . . with one exception. Don't even consider trying it on THAT!
>
> bumper

Oh My Goodness. This sounds like the voice of experience.
Bumper, we know how much you love your tools and potions,
but please tell us you didn't try this...