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Steve Leonard[_2_]
April 1st 13, 06:12 AM
Word has gotten out that the SSA is going to launch a new racing class in 2014. The plan is for the class to begin in Regional Competition in 2014, and become a National Class in 2015. Due to the demise of the World Class, and the apparent popularity of the “Low Performance” contest, the Rules Committee, and the SSA have begun working out the rules for this new class..

Taking a tip from another struggling hobby, automobile racing, the RC has been working to define this new class, currently called LeMonns. The new class will race under rules patterned after the more famous racing series.

The basics are as follows:

Max investment in glider, trailer, and instrument must not exceed $7,500. Parachute, is not included in this price limit.

A glider may qualify as a LeMonns Class glider if it can be shown that not over $7,500 was expended in the purchase/preparation of the plane for racing. i.e., you can buy an airworthy glider for up to $7,500, or you can buy a wrecked sailplane, and show receipts for materials purchased (not to include your own labor, but hired labor must be included), provided the total expenditure does not exceed $7,500. Sale of components is permitted to reduce investment and get under the purchase price limit. Determination of value will be verified by the local race organizer. Once a glider is approved as a LeMonn, it will be permitted to race with the original owner until sold. If sold for more than $7,500, the LeMonn status of the glider will be removed.

If there is sufficient spread in performance of the LeMonns gliders, there will be the option to separate the gliders into “Sport” LeMonns and “Super” LeMonns for scoring purposes. There will be no handicapping within the LeMonns class.

Tasking will be either a traditional assigned speed task or an “endurance” task. The “endurance” task will have a set start and end time with the task being laps around an assigned task. The winner will be the pilot who has completed the most laps around the task and crosses the finish line first after the announced “task end” time. All others will be scored based on laps completed and order across the finish line.

Starts will be either Grand Prix style, or LeMonns style. Grand Prix style will be a 3 mile wide, height TBD, plane in space that can only be crossed after official start time. If the line is cross prior to official start time, a penalty will be applied. LeMonns Style start will have an announced “task start time”. Time for all competitors will begin at the announced “task start time”. Prior to the announced “task start time” pilots and crews will be positioned 100 fee from their trailers. There will be a countdown, and an announcement of “The Task is Now OPEN!” The Task Open announcement can be by a starters pistol, radio broadcast, cannon shot (New Castle Rules) or as determined appropriate by the host organization. Pilot and crews will run to their trailers, assemble their gliders, and pull to the launch line. There will be a designated “pit row” speed limit, and violators of this limit will be subject to a penalty. Once at the launch line, launches will commence immediately. In order to help assure fairness, task start time will not be before start of sustainable lift.

Either type of start will be permitted with either type of task.

There are still many details to be worked out, so please do not bother your regional director or anyone on the Rules Committee with questions, comments or concerns about this new class or the rules for it. They have been instructed to disavow any and all knowledge of this class in order to assure completion of the definition and the class-specific rules to be ready for the 2014 racing season.

Wiki-Leaks Mid-West

CindyB[_2_]
April 1st 13, 11:51 AM
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:12:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Leonard wrote:
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> Taking a tip from another struggling hobby, automobile racing, the RC has been working to define this new class, currently called LeMonns. The new class will race under rules patterned after the more famous racing series.
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> The basics are as follows:
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> There are still many details to be worked out, so please do not bother your regional director or anyone on the Rules Committee with questions, comments or concerns about this new class or the rules for it. They have been instructed to disavow any and all knowledge of this class in order to assure completion of the definition and the class-specific rules to be ready for the 2014 racing season.
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> Wiki-Leaks Mid-West


Wiki-Leaks Western Update . . .

Self Launchers will be permitted, if ecologically compliant by fueling on LeMonns Juice. IGC/SSA fuel vendor approval has been extended to RealLeMonn and Tropicana.

Crew and contest staff will wear yellow safety vests while on the premises
with front and rear identifiers: LeMonn Aid.

The Competition Director will be titled " Chief Sour Puss" in this class.

In-flight ballast release will be announced per new radio communications rule using the standard phraseology of "Juicing by (insert contest number)". Failure to announce will provoke a washing penalty when confirmed by staining in team flying and flight recorder review for proximity. Stained contestant must claim by radio call inflight and landing card request for washup.

Leibacher's acidic response to inquiries was that there would be no LeMonns class seeding. As a long-term volunteer, his zest is waning.

California and Florida soaring clubs are under Treasury Dept. investigation for bribery for sanction. Linda Murray, as nationals site selection chairwoman has been seen signing for FedEx deliveries presumed to be fruit baskets.

These details are released by a source who is not authorized to speak, pending official announcements. Rules and Contest Committee members remain lips puckered in silence, and SSA Board members have called this thread a pulpless fiction.

PH3

Dave Nadler
April 1st 13, 12:01 PM
You forgot the "Claiming Rule".
The winner's glider can be purchased for $7500.

Sean F (F2)
April 1st 13, 01:46 PM
:-)

JJ Sinclair[_2_]
April 1st 13, 01:58 PM
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:12:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Leonard wrote:
> Word has gotten out that the SSA is going to launch a new racing class in 2014. The plan is for the class to begin in Regional Competition in 2014, and become a National Class in 2015. Due to the demise of the World Class, and the apparent popularity of the “Low Performance” contest, the Rules Committee, and the SSA have begun working out the rules for this new class.
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> Taking a tip from another struggling hobby, automobile racing, the RC has been working to define this new class, currently called LeMonns. The new class will race under rules patterned after the more famous racing series.
>
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> The basics are as follows:
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> Max investment in glider, trailer, and instrument must not exceed $7,500. Parachute, is not included in this price limit.
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> A glider may qualify as a LeMonns Class glider if it can be shown that not over $7,500 was expended in the purchase/preparation of the plane for racing. i.e., you can buy an airworthy glider for up to $7,500, or you can buy a wrecked sailplane, and show receipts for materials purchased (not to include your own labor, but hired labor must be included), provided the total expenditure does not exceed $7,500. Sale of components is permitted to reduce investment and get under the purchase price limit. Determination of value will be verified by the local race organizer. Once a glider is approved as a LeMonn, it will be permitted to race with the original owner until sold. If sold for more than $7,500, the LeMonn status of the glider will be removed.
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> If there is sufficient spread in performance of the LeMonns gliders, there will be the option to separate the gliders into “Sport” LeMonns and “Super” LeMonns for scoring purposes. There will be no handicapping within the LeMonns class.
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> Tasking will be either a traditional assigned speed task or an “endurance” task. The “endurance” task will have a set start and end time with the task being laps around an assigned task. The winner will be the pilot who has completed the most laps around the task and crosses the finish line first after the announced “task end” time. All others will be scored based on laps completed and order across the finish line.
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> Starts will be either Grand Prix style, or LeMonns style. Grand Prix style will be a 3 mile wide, height TBD, plane in space that can only be crossed after official start time. If the line is cross prior to official start time, a penalty will be applied. LeMonns Style start will have an announced “task start time”. Time for all competitors will begin at the announced “task start time”. Prior to the announced “task start time” pilots and crews will be positioned 100 fee from their trailers. There will be a countdown, and an announcement of “The Task is Now OPEN!” The Task Open announcement can be by a starters pistol, radio broadcast, cannon shot (New Castle Rules) or as determined appropriate by the host organization. Pilot and crews will run to their trailers, assemble their gliders, and pull to the launch line. There will be a designated “pit row” speed limit, and violators of this limit will be subject to a penalty. Once at the launch line, launches will commence immediately. In order to help assure fairness, task start time will not be before start of sustainable lift.
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> Either type of start will be permitted with either type of task.
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> There are still many details to be worked out, so please do not bother your regional director or anyone on the Rules Committee with questions, comments or concerns about this new class or the rules for it. They have been instructed to disavow any and all knowledge of this class in order to assure completion of the definition and the class-specific rules to be ready for the 2014 racing season.
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> Wiki-Leaks Mid-West

Hmmmmm, what's the date today?

Tony[_5_]
April 1st 13, 03:50 PM
On Monday, April 1, 2013 12:12:10 AM UTC-5, Steve Leonard wrote:
> Word has gotten out that the SSA is going to launch a new racing class in 2014. The plan is for the class to begin in Regional Competition in 2014, and become a National Class in 2015. Due to the demise of the World Class, and the apparent popularity of the “Low Performance” contest, the Rules Committee, and the SSA have begun working out the rules for this new class.. Taking a tip from another struggling hobby, automobile racing, the RC has been working to define this new class, currently called LeMonns. The new class will race under rules patterned after the more famous racing series. The basics are as follows: Max investment in glider, trailer, and instrument must not exceed $7,500. Parachute, is not included in this price limit. A glider may qualify as a LeMonns Class glider if it can be shown that not over $7,500 was expended in the purchase/preparation of the plane for racing. i.e., you can buy an airworthy glider for up to $7,500, or you can buy a wrecked sailplane, and show receipts for materials purchased (not to include your own labor, but hired labor must be included), provided the total expenditure does not exceed $7,500. Sale of components is permitted to reduce investment and get under the purchase price limit. Determination of value will be verified by the local race organizer. Once a glider is approved as a LeMonn, it will be permitted to race with the original owner until sold. If sold for more than $7,500, the LeMonn status of the glider will be removed.. If there is sufficient spread in performance of the LeMonns gliders, there will be the option to separate the gliders into “Sport” LeMonns and “Super” LeMonns for scoring purposes. There will be no handicapping within the LeMonns class. Tasking will be either a traditional assigned speed task or an “endurance” task. The “endurance” task will have a set start and end time with the task being laps around an assigned task. The winner will be the pilot who has completed the most laps around the task and crosses the finish line first after the announced “task end” time. All others will be scored based on laps completed and order across the finish line. Starts will be either Grand Prix style, or LeMonns style. Grand Prix style will be a 3 mile wide, height TBD, plane in space that can only be crossed after official start time. If the line is cross prior to official start time, a penalty will be applied. LeMonns Style start will have an announced “task start time”. Time for all competitors will begin at the announced “task start time”. Prior to the announced “task start time” pilots and crews will be positioned 100 fee from their trailers. There will be a countdown, and an announcement of “The Task is Now OPEN!” The Task Open announcement can be by a starters pistol, radio broadcast, cannon shot (New Castle Rules) or as determined appropriate by the host organization. Pilot and crews will run to their trailers, assemble their gliders, and pull to the launch line. There will be a designated “pit row” speed limit, and violators of this limit will be subject to a penalty. Once at the launch line, launches will commence immediately. In order to help assure fairness, task start time will not be before start of sustainable lift. Either type of start will be permitted with either type of task. There are still many details to be worked out, so please do not bother your regional director or anyone on the Rules Committee with questions, comments or concerns about this new class or the rules for it. They have been instructed to disavow any and all knowledge of this class in order to assure completion of the definition and the class-specific rules to be ready for the 2014 racing season. Wiki-Leaks Mid-West

Regardless of todays date, I fully approve of this idea.

Our Low Performance Contest at Sunflower in July can be thought of as a proof of concept, leading to an official regional class next year and nationals in 2014. Time to start picketing the IGC for elimination of the 13.5 meter class and establishment of the $7500 (or 5800 Euro if they like) class. The claim rule will keep people from selling their ASG-29's for $7500.

Steve Leonard[_2_]
April 2nd 13, 03:47 AM
On Monday, April 1, 2013 7:58:53 AM UTC-5, JJ Sinclair wrote:
>Hmmmmm, what's the date today?

Oh, and did we mention the manditory Pilot Change during the Endurance Task? Can only be done in the "pits". Not in a field after an outlanding.

Dave, I don't think the LeMons is a claim race. However, we will NOT crush any competitor's glider, no matter how BAD it looks! Unlike the LeMons series reserves the right to do.

Bob Kuykendall
April 2nd 13, 07:02 AM
I would so totally enter a racing class like that. Glider constructed;
glider racing deconstructed!

On Apr 1, 7:47*pm, Steve Leonard > wrote:
> Dave, I don't think the LeMons is a claim race...

Technically it is; but it has been a custom, to borrow Billy Bard's
words, "more honored in the breach than in the observance." In the
whole history of the series, Jay Lamm has claimed all of two cars, one
of which was an uber-cheaty gray-market V12 BMW.

Thanks, Bob K.
http://www.hpaircraft.com/hp-24
https://www.facebook.com/pages/HP-24-Sailplane-Project/200931354951

Tony[_5_]
April 2nd 13, 09:34 PM
Regarding the LeMonns start...early 1-26 Regattas and Championships usually featured a rigging contest, especially the ones held at Harris Hill. Trailers were positioned on one side of the runway and crews on the other. I don't know if there was a limit on # of people but I'm pretty sure that 3 or 4 was common. I remember reading that the Soaring Dutchmen were well known as being the team to beat, rigging a 1-26 to flyable condition in less than 5 minutes. Pretty sure they trailered with the tail on which is kinda cheating.

Steve Leonard[_2_]
April 2nd 13, 09:43 PM
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 3:34:49 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
> Regarding the LeMonns start...early 1-26 Regattas and Championships usually featured a rigging contest, especially the ones held at Harris Hill. Trailers were positioned on one side of the runway and crews on the other. I don't know if there was a limit on # of people but I'm pretty sure that 3 or 4 was common. I remember reading that the Soaring Dutchmen were well known as being the team to beat, rigging a 1-26 to flyable condition in less than 5 minutes. Pretty sure they trailered with the tail on which is kinda cheating.

My planned "Ace in the Hole" for winning the LeMonns start is an AV-36 Fauvelle. Run to the trailer, pick the plane up, set it on the ground, and start pushing to the runway. George Moffat always said you need to first win the start...

April 2nd 13, 10:45 PM
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 4:34:49 PM UTC-4, Tony wrote:
> Regarding the LeMonns start...early 1-26 Regattas and Championships usually featured a rigging contest, especially the ones held at Harris Hill. Trailers were positioned on one side of the runway and crews on the other. I don't know if there was a limit on # of people but I'm pretty sure that 3 or 4 was common. I remember reading that the Soaring Dutchmen were well known as being the team to beat, rigging a 1-26 to flyable condition in less than 5 minutes. Pretty sure they trailered with the tail on which is kinda cheating.

Record for assembly was by the Dutchmen in just over 2 1/2 minutes and they did put the tail on.
UH

Steve Leonard[_2_]
April 2nd 13, 10:55 PM
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 4:45:35 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Record for assembly was by the Dutchmen in just over 2 1/2 minutes and they did put the tail on. UH

Not too shabby for three bolts and two control connections per wing! (assuming this is pre-D model 1-26) And, what, three bolts and the pushrod for the tail?


Steve

Tony[_5_]
April 2nd 13, 11:39 PM
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 4:55:18 PM UTC-5, Steve Leonard wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 4:45:35 PM UTC-5, wrote:
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wow 2.5 minutes is impressive. Thats NASCAR pit crew style analysis on getting the job done.

Speaking of NASCAR will the LeMonns rules give the CD the option to call a NASCAR day where if post flight analysis of your trace shows any complete 360 to the right you get a 1000 point penalty?

Tony[_5_]
April 2nd 13, 11:43 PM
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:39:52 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
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oh another twist on the Endurance task. if you have a class in the endurance task that flies with water ballast, a calibrated leak must be installed in the system so that after about 1.5 laps you'll be out of water. then the decision must be made whether to pit for more water or try to win the race on "old tires"

Steve Leonard[_2_]
April 3rd 13, 06:54 PM
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:43:47 PM UTC-5, Tony wrote:
> Thats NASCAR pit crew style analysis on getting the job done. > > > > Speaking of NASCAR will the LeMonns rules give the CD the option to call a NASCAR day where if post flight analysis of your trace shows any complete 360 to the right you get a 1000 point penalty? oh another twist on the Endurance task. if you have a class in the endurance task that flies with water ballast, a calibrated leak must be installed in the system so that after about 1.5 laps you'll be out of water. then the decision must be made whether to pit for more water or try to win the race on "old tires".

Hitler will not be approved by the RC as a CD, so there will be no penalties for turning left. Or right.

No leaks will be induced in any ballast systems in a LeMonns glider. If it was that low cost to start with, there probably are already leaks in any ballast system that might be installed.

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