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Tom K (ES)
April 30th 13, 03:09 PM
http://www.newsleader.com/article/20130429/NEWS01/304290023/State-seeks-enforcement-grass-landings-ban-Waynesboro-s-Eagle-s-Nest-Airport

Tony[_5_]
April 30th 13, 03:27 PM
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:09:36 AM UTC-5, Tom K (ES) wrote:
> http://www.newsleader.com/article/20130429/NEWS01/304290023/State-seeks-enforcement-grass-landings-ban-Waynesboro-s-Eagle-s-Nest-Airport

Hopefully they are aware of this work already done on this subject:

http://www.ssa.org/GovernmentLiaison?id=2367

April 30th 13, 03:50 PM
Evidently the State DOT's have declared war on gliders! I am currently fighting the same battle. Reference link below:

http://www.thepostsearchlight.com/2013/04/09/dot-gliders-cannot-land-on-grass/

In regards to the SSA Memo referenced, the Airport Engineering Division that originally issued the memo is researching if it still applies. Evidently the author has retired. O what joy it must be to own your glider field and not deal with the winds of political change.

Lane
XF

Tony[_5_]
April 30th 13, 04:07 PM
On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:50:29 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> Evidently the State DOT's have declared war on gliders! I am currently fighting the same battle. Reference link below: http://www.thepostsearchlight..com/2013/04/09/dot-gliders-cannot-land-on-grass/ In regards to the SSA Memo referenced, the Airport Engineering Division that originally issued the memo is researching if it still applies. Evidently the author has retired. O what joy it must be to own your glider field and not deal with the winds of political change. Lane XF

My old club went through this. For years they operated off the grass next the runway and everyone got along great. Then the airport built a "taxiway to nowhere" to coin a phrase and made that area unusable for takeoffs. We still were able to land there though usually. This of course forced the club operations onto the pavement and then complaints increased.

we often requested that the taxiway to nowhere be removed so we could go back to our former peaceful operations but during airport master plan meetings there were engineers there who just couldn't fathom that you could actually land an aircraft on something other than a paved runway and they were equally amazed that society didn't unravel when an obstacle free zone was encroached.

occasionally a local pilot would complain about us using the grass on the side of the runway but usually they would change their tune when we offered to instead block the big paved runway.

i feel your pain guys, wish there was more i could do to help.

soartech[_2_]
May 1st 13, 05:43 PM
>*O what joy it must be to own your glider field and not deal with the winds of political change.
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> Lane
> XF

Yet another reason to buy a hay field on top of a ridge and auto tow
into the lift.
Cheap (form a club), easy and hassle free. We don't need no airports.

May 8th 13, 01:21 AM
For update on KBGE operations check out the link below:

http://www.thepostsearchlight.com/2013/05/07/gilders-can-keep-using-grass-area-next-to-runway/

After two months of educating myself and with help from the Washington office of the FAA, I have gotten the Georgia DOT to revise their claims on the improper use of the grass areas by our club. One more local vote to revise the local ordnance against grass landings and we will be back to operating like usual. One small win for soaring, one giant win for mankind.

Lane
XF

Darryl Ramm
May 8th 13, 05:20 AM
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 5:21:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> For update on KBGE operations check out the link below:
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> After two months of educating myself and with help from the Washington office of the FAA, I have gotten the Georgia DOT to revise their claims on the improper use of the grass areas by our club. One more local vote to revise the local ordnance against grass landings and we will be back to operating like usual. One small win for soaring, one giant win for mankind.
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Hope some local pilots are buying you a beer or two for that.

Darryl

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