MSN Plane down in Dubuque, IA

[Ben Smith]

All 3 occupants are OK.

http://www.channel3000.com/news/2907643/detail.html

--
Ben
C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y

[Jay Honeck]

> All 3 occupants are OK.

Glad they came out all right. Strange that the pilot reported icing last
night -- it was clear here.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Cecil E. Chapman]

Why does the press refer to emergency landings as 'crashes',,, if they were
truly uncontrolled as the word "crash" implies, there would have more likely
been fatalities rather than minor injuries... <grrr> :-)

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- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -
"Ben Smith" > wrote in message
...
> All 3 occupants are OK.
>
> http://www.channel3000.com/news/2907643/detail.html
>
> --
> Ben
> C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y
>
>

[BTIZ]

if you miss the runway.. its a crash... even if it's an intentional
outlanding in a field by a glider because the lift deteriorated..

but then again.. I've seen some crashes... and dashes.. on the runway..

BT

"Cecil E. Chapman" > wrote in message
...
> Why does the press refer to emergency landings as 'crashes',,, if they
were
> truly uncontrolled as the word "crash" implies, there would have more
likely
> been fatalities rather than minor injuries... <grrr> :-)
>
> --
> --
> =-----
> Good Flights!
>
> Cecil
> PP-ASEL
> Student-IASEL
>
> Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
> checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
> Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
>
> "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
> this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
> - Cecil Day Lewis -
> "Ben Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All 3 occupants are OK.
> >
> > http://www.channel3000.com/news/2907643/detail.html
> >
> > --
> > Ben
> > C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y
> >
> >
>
>

[Peter Gottlieb]

That's right.

"Today we are reporting that a twin engine Cirrus Piper crashed on a road
just outside Tweediddle township. Fortunately, there were no injuries and
the airplane, after some minor engine repairs, was allowed to take off from
the road."



"Cecil E. Chapman" > wrote in message
...
> Why does the press refer to emergency landings as 'crashes',,, if they
were
> truly uncontrolled as the word "crash" implies, there would have more
likely
> been fatalities rather than minor injuries... <grrr> :-)
>
> --
> --
> =-----
> Good Flights!
>
> Cecil
> PP-ASEL
> Student-IASEL
>
> Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
> checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
> Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com
>
> "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
> - Antoine de Saint-Exupery -
>
> "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
> this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
> - Cecil Day Lewis -
> "Ben Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All 3 occupants are OK.
> >
> > http://www.channel3000.com/news/2907643/detail.html
> >
> > --
> > Ben
> > C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y
> >
> >
>
>

[Jim Weir]

What, Jay??? You've never seen clear ice before?

{;-)


Jim


"Jay Honeck" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->> All 3 occupants are OK.
->
->Glad they came out all right. Strange that the pilot reported icing last
->night -- it was clear here.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Gerald Sylvester]

Cecil E. Chapman wrote:
> Why does the press refer to emergency landings as 'crashes',,, if they were
> truly uncontrolled as the word "crash" implies, there would have more likely
> been fatalities rather than minor injuries... <grrr> :-)

I know what you mean. To *me*, a plane that lands off field ,
well they landed....no major damage to people or property including
the aircraft. But in this case where it was reported that
there was serious damage to the plane, I'd generally say that
was a 'crash' as it was a 'mere arrival' was and the damage was
unintended.

Gerald

[John Galban]

"Cecil E. Chapman" > wrote in message >...
> Why does the press refer to emergency landings as 'crashes',,, if they were
> truly uncontrolled as the word "crash" implies, there would have more likely
> been fatalities rather than minor injuries... <grrr> :-)
>

You can do both. If you make an emergency landing and break the
airplane (BTDT), it's fair to call it a crash.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Saryon]

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:40:01 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
]> wrote:
.. Finally, either I, or someone got through to them because
>now a crash is a crash, an emergency landing is an emergency landing. Just
>recently a Cessna (150 series) came down in a field and flipped over
>when the nose wheel bogged down in the snow

You're here in MA aren't you?

[Gary Drescher]

"Nomen Nescio" ]> wrote in message
...
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>
> From: "Cecil E. Chapman" >
>
> >Why does the press refer to emergency landings as 'crashes',,, if they
were
> >truly uncontrolled as the word "crash" implies, there would have more
likely
> >been fatalities rather than minor injuries... <grrr> :-)
>
> Sensationalism. They can be educated, though. Our local station used
> to refer to every plane that didn't land at the airport as a "crash".
Between
> calls, email, and letters, I must have explained to them 50 times that
it's
> not always a crash. Finally, either I, or someone got through to them
because
> now a crash is a crash, an emergency landing is an emergency landing. Just
> recently a Cessna (150 series) came down in a field and flipped over
> when the nose wheel bogged down in the snow. The report was something like
> this: "A single engine Cessna airplane made an emergency landing at a
> Berkshire farm today after the engine suffered a loss of power. Both
pilots
> were shaken but unhurt when the front wheel sunk in the snow and flipped
> the plane over as it was coasting to a stop". (insert picture of inverted
> plane in the snow with a few cops standing around with coffee and donuts)
> Really not bad as news stories go

Hm, so when a car flips over, can that still be called a crash, or has the
driver just performed an "emergency parking"? :)

--Gary

[Morgans]

"Peter Gottlieb" > wrote in message
. ..
> That's right.
>
> "Today we are reporting that a twin engine Cirrus Piper crashed on a road
> just outside Tweediddle township. Fortunately, there were no injuries and
> the airplane, after some minor engine repairs, was allowed to take off
from
> the road."
>
>
A couple days ago here in Lenoir, a cub landed on a local golf course, when
the engine quit, due to carb ice. The student with only 20 hrs was solo,
and landed with no damage. A family friend was going to do the takeoff.
--
Jim in NC


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[Saryon]

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:10:04 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
]> wrote:

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>From: Saryon >
>
>>You're here in MA aren't you?
>
>Yea. Springfield, MA. Used to live up in the Berkshires on the
>Huntington - Worthington line.
>You?

I live about 5NM from Minuteman but I fly out of Bedford. I was just
curious because that 152 didn't get much airtime outside of Ch.7 so
figured you for a local.

Anyway...

[Hobbes1157]

DESCRIPTION:
ACFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES AND WAS DESTROYED, THREE PERSONS ON
BOARD SUSTAINED MINOR INJURIES, DUBUQUE, IA
WEATHER: DBQ0406 SF 02005KT 2SM -SN FEW003 BKN023 OVC029 MO1/M01 A3000

Departed: DES MOINES, IA Dep Date: 03/09/2004
Dep. Time: 0228
Destination: MADISON, WI Flt Plan: IFR
Wx Briefing: Y
Last Radio Cont: 6 MILES SW DBQ
Last Clearance: CLRD FOR APCH

I was out at the airport the next day flying, but I didn't see the airplane,
which was a 172R.

-Nathan