Its About Time I Finally Got Me A Birdie

[MRQB]

Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low cost
time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early Thursday
night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke him
up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the phone
price, price dependant upon inspection.

A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got there
before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar came
out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell me a
bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major annual to
it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed up
about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could pull
it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is ware
it starts to get interesting!

He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad? Seller
acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the shop
he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with all
inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an airworthiness
issue's.

We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said that
it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There was
no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have been
complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified and
started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than Fair to
me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.

I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone. The
plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone due
to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to the
truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my offer
my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So I
went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted out
$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale we
shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.

Times
4030 Airframe
700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
100 ON New Prop

All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8

Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires, break
rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages, steering
rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness squawks
little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done monday.
I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.

Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
Excellent Advice.

[Stu Gotts]

Good story. Good luck with your new toy and fly safely!

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, "MRQB" > wrote:

>Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low cost
>time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early Thursday
>night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
>person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke him
>up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the phone
>price, price dependant upon inspection.
>
>A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got there
>before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar came
>out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell me a
>bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major annual to
>it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed up
>about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could pull
>it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is ware
>it starts to get interesting!
>
>He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
>screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad? Seller
>acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the shop
>he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with all
>inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
>inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an airworthiness
>issue's.
>
>We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said that
>it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There was
>no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have been
>complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified and
>started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than Fair to
>me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.
>
>I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone. The
>plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
>full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone due
>to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to the
>truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my offer
>my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So I
>went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted out
>$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale we
>shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
>
>Times
>4030 Airframe
>700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
>100 ON New Prop
>
>All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
>
>Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires, break
>rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages, steering
>rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
>another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness squawks
>little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done monday.
>I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>
>Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
>Excellent Advice.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, "MRQB" > wrote
in Message-Id: >:

>I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.

Here's hopin' there are no liens against it. :-)

[Jim Herring]

Pardon me, but after your inspection you didn't do a test flight?

--
Jim

carry on




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[Matthew P. Cummings]

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, MRQB wrote:

> night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
> person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke him

I found the plane on ebay, item number 2466652124 and it does look nice, I
hope it works out for you, it's a risky purchase because it sat in a
hangar since 1987 and only got attention last year. I "HIGHLY" suggest
you put that plane on regular oil analysis to establish a trend and watch
it carefully for engine problems. I've seen too many of these hangar
queens lose an engine within the first couple hundred hours due to hidden
corrosion. Be very careful and particular when it comes to your engine.
Of course I could have read the ad wrong, and if I did you made out well.

A 76M for the price you say you got is a steal, watch for the cops at your
doorsteps, you flat out stole it if it's got a good engine, compressions
mean nothing on an engine that sat for 17 years in a hangar.

[MRQB]

"Robert A. Barker" > wrote in message
news:LyO4c.8474$po.155299@attbi_s52...
>
> "MRQB" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low
> cost
> > time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early
Thursday
> > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
area
> > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150
>
>
> Way to go!!!!!!! I love my 1966 150 F.Hope you are as satisfied as I am
> as time goes by.
>
> Best of luck
>
> Bob Barker N8749S
>
>

I stayed the night in a motel woke up and did a 2 hour cross country to
bring it home for my maiden flight. I did not want to do it at night as I
only had 6 hours in a 150 2 years ago and it was the maiden flight and I
was not going to chance it. The trip home was flawless and getting reused to
a 150 was like riding a bike man are the controls more responsive compared
to the 172's.

[G.R. Patterson III]

MRQB wrote:
>
> I stayed the night in a motel woke up and did a 2 hour cross country to
> bring it home for my maiden flight. I did not want to do it at night as I
> only had 6 hours in a 150 2 years ago and it was the maiden flight and I
> was not going to chance it.

A wise choice. I brought my 150 home on a moonless night due to Continental
airlines cancelling my early flight out to go get it. Wound up in Wilmington
Delaware reading the fuel ticket to find out where I was. Missed violating the
Philly class B by only a few miles. Landed 5 minutes after the tower closed, or
I would've picked up a violation there.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

[MRQB]

"Matthew P. Cummings" > wrote in message
ray.net...
> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, MRQB wrote:
>
> > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
area
> > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke
him
>
> I found the plane on ebay, item number 2466652124 and it does look nice, I
> hope it works out for you, it's a risky purchase because it sat in a
> hangar since 1987 and only got attention last year. I "HIGHLY" suggest
> you put that plane on regular oil analysis to establish a trend and watch
> it carefully for engine problems. I've seen too many of these hangar
> queens lose an engine within the first couple hundred hours due to hidden
> corrosion. Be very careful and particular when it comes to your engine.
> Of course I could have read the ad wrong, and if I did you made out well.
>
> A 76M for the price you say you got is a steal, watch for the cops at your
> doorsteps, you flat out stole it if it's got a good engine, compressions
> mean nothing on an engine that sat for 17 years in a hangar.
>

My A & P "Friend" that took me to do the pre buy said that every thing
looked good and in the report about how it was stored in the logs he said
was it was done properly somthing about "Preservative Oil used for anti
corrosion in the sump & cylinders" got me on that one did not know there was
such a thing!

[MRQB]

Ohh, this trip was a big learning experience! I have never taken off on a
slopped runway before it was kinda cool taking off "UP HILL" then there was
a TFR that started 1/2 mile from the end of the runway. Flight service said
to be very careful departing today depart to the west ASAP during my
briefing. I was also warned about this by other pilots on the CTAF during my
run-up and was wondering why every one was taking off funny. Then I had to
avoid another TFR At Bremerton, Wa I called in to Seattle and had them
vector me around it as I was not familiar with the area they were very
friendly in helping out on this it was also my first time in class B
airspace. I learned a lot out of this little Cross Country Trip. It was
still a flawless learning experiance nothing went wrong.


First's
Taking off UP HILL
First time dealing with TFR's
First time in class B airspace




"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> MRQB wrote:
> >
> > I stayed the night in a motel woke up and did a 2 hour cross country to
> > bring it home for my maiden flight. I did not want to do it at night as
I
> > only had 6 hours in a 150 2 years ago and it was the maiden flight and
I
> > was not going to chance it.
>
> A wise choice. I brought my 150 home on a moonless night due to
Continental
> airlines cancelling my early flight out to go get it. Wound up in
Wilmington
> Delaware reading the fuel ticket to find out where I was. Missed violating
the
> Philly class B by only a few miles. Landed 5 minutes after the tower
closed, or
> I would've picked up a violation there.
>
> George Patterson
> Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that
would
> not yield to the tongue.

[Judah]

"MRQB" > wrote in
:

<snip>
> First's
> Taking off UP HILL
> First time dealing with TFR's
> First time in class B airspace
>

You forgot...

First time flying YOUR airplane! ;)

[Bob Fry]

"MRQB" > writes:

> Ohh, this trip was a big learning experience! I have never taken off on a
> slopped runway before it was kinda cool taking off "UP HILL" then there was
> a TFR that started 1/2 mile from the end of the runway.

What airport did you depart from?

Congratulations on your purchase! After all the problems encountered
on the way, they can all now be forgotten--or fondly remembered as a
small price to pay for owning your own aircraft. And good on ya' mate
for being willing to learn new things: TFRs, Class B, etc.

[Philip Sondericker]

in article , MRQB at
wrote on 3/13/04 5:00 PM:

> counted out $16k in cash

To hell with airworthiness! The riskiest thing you did that day was walk
around with 16 grand in your pocket.

[BTIZ]

good going.. glad to hear it..

BT

"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
> Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low
cost
> time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early Thursday
> night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
> person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke
him
> up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the phone
> price, price dependant upon inspection.
>
> A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got
there
> before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar came
> out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell me
a
> bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major annual
to
> it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed
up
> about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could
pull
> it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is
ware
> it starts to get interesting!
>
> He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
> screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad? Seller
> acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the
shop
> he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with all
> inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
> inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an
airworthiness
> issue's.
>
> We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said
that
> it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There was
> no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have
been
> complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified
and
> started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than Fair
to
> me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.
>
> I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone.
The
> plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
> full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone
due
> to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to
the
> truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my
offer
> my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So I
> went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted
out
> $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale
we
> shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
>
> Times
> 4030 Airframe
> 700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
> 100 ON New Prop
>
> All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
>
> Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires, break
> rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,
steering
> rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
> another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness
squawks
> little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done
monday.
> I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>
> Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
> Excellent Advice.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[BTIZ]

you've got a great friend in the A&P that went with you.. reward
appropriately... it's his "living".. and a nice dinner for him and the mrs..

BT

"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Matthew P. Cummings" > wrote in message
> ray.net...
> > On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, MRQB wrote:
> >
> > > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
> area
> > > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am
woke
> him
> >
> > I found the plane on ebay, item number 2466652124 and it does look nice,
I
> > hope it works out for you, it's a risky purchase because it sat in a
> > hangar since 1987 and only got attention last year. I "HIGHLY" suggest
> > you put that plane on regular oil analysis to establish a trend and
watch
> > it carefully for engine problems. I've seen too many of these hangar
> > queens lose an engine within the first couple hundred hours due to
hidden
> > corrosion. Be very careful and particular when it comes to your engine.
> > Of course I could have read the ad wrong, and if I did you made out
well.
> >
> > A 76M for the price you say you got is a steal, watch for the cops at
your
> > doorsteps, you flat out stole it if it's got a good engine, compressions
> > mean nothing on an engine that sat for 17 years in a hangar.
> >
>
> My A & P "Friend" that took me to do the pre buy said that every thing
> looked good and in the report about how it was stored in the logs he said
> was it was done properly somthing about "Preservative Oil used for anti
> corrosion in the sump & cylinders" got me on that one did not know there
was
> such a thing!
>
>

[MRQB]

He was rewarded appropriately.

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:kJ05c.15339$Nj.512@fed1read01...
> you've got a great friend in the A&P that went with you.. reward
> appropriately... it's his "living".. and a nice dinner for him and the
mrs..
>
> BT
>
> "MRQB" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Matthew P. Cummings" > wrote in message
> > ray.net...
> > > On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, MRQB wrote:
> > >
> > > > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
> > area
> > > > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am
> woke
> > him
> > >
> > > I found the plane on ebay, item number 2466652124 and it does look
nice,
> I
> > > hope it works out for you, it's a risky purchase because it sat in a
> > > hangar since 1987 and only got attention last year. I "HIGHLY"
suggest
> > > you put that plane on regular oil analysis to establish a trend and
> watch
> > > it carefully for engine problems. I've seen too many of these hangar
> > > queens lose an engine within the first couple hundred hours due to
> hidden
> > > corrosion. Be very careful and particular when it comes to your
engine.
> > > Of course I could have read the ad wrong, and if I did you made out
> well.
> > >
> > > A 76M for the price you say you got is a steal, watch for the cops at
> your
> > > doorsteps, you flat out stole it if it's got a good engine,
compressions
> > > mean nothing on an engine that sat for 17 years in a hangar.
> > >
> >
> > My A & P "Friend" that took me to do the pre buy said that every thing
> > looked good and in the report about how it was stored in the logs he
said
> > was it was done properly somthing about "Preservative Oil used for anti
> > corrosion in the sump & cylinders" got me on that one did not know there
> was
> > such a thing!
> >
> >
>
>

[MRQB]

No not that risky I've walked around with a lot more than that. Just don't
tell any one that you have it and your ok.


"Philip Sondericker" > wrote in message
...
> in article , MRQB at
> wrote on 3/13/04 5:00 PM:
>
> > counted out $16k in cash
>
> To hell with airworthiness! The riskiest thing you did that day was walk
> around with 16 grand in your pocket.
>

[MRQB]

Yep thats right first time flying my airplane man that sounds werid,


"Judah" > wrote in message
...
> "MRQB" > wrote in
> :
>
> <snip>
> > First's
> > Taking off UP HILL
> > First time dealing with TFR's
> > First time in class B airspace
> >
>
> You forgot...
>
> First time flying YOUR airplane! ;)

[MRQB]

Apex Private WA05 (formerly S42)

http://www.airnav.com/airport/WA05


"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> "MRQB" > writes:
>
> > Ohh, this trip was a big learning experience! I have never taken off on
a
> > slopped runway before it was kinda cool taking off "UP HILL" then there
was
> > a TFR that started 1/2 mile from the end of the runway.
>
> What airport did you depart from?
>
> Congratulations on your purchase! After all the problems encountered
> on the way, they can all now be forgotten--or fondly remembered as a
> small price to pay for owning your own aircraft. And good on ya' mate
> for being willing to learn new things: TFRs, Class B, etc.

[Doug]

What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in cash?

"MRQB" > wrote in message >...
> Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low cost
> time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early Thursday
> night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
> person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke him
> up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the phone
> price, price dependant upon inspection.
>
> A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got there
> before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar came
> out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell me a
> bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major annual to
> it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed up
> about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could pull
> it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is ware
> it starts to get interesting!
>
> He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
> screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad? Seller
> acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the shop
> he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with all
> inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
> inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an airworthiness
> issue's.
>
> We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said that
> it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There was
> no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have been
> complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified and
> started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than Fair to
> me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.
>
> I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone. The
> plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
> full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone due
> to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to the
> truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my offer
> my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So I
> went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted out
> $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale we
> shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
>
> Times
> 4030 Airframe
> 700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
> 100 ON New Prop
>
> All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
>
> Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires, break
> rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages, steering
> rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
> another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness squawks
> little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done monday.
> I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>
> Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
> Excellent Advice.

[MRQB]

They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time to
call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost refused to
give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it now!!!!!! I
said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so give me
my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave me the
amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.


I hate banks for that reason.


"Doug" > wrote in message
om...
> What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in
cash?
>
> "MRQB" > wrote in message
>...
> > Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low
cost
> > time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early
Thursday
> > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
area
> > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke
him
> > up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the
phone
> > price, price dependant upon inspection.
> >
> > A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got
there
> > before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar
came
> > out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell
me a
> > bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major
annual to
> > it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed
up
> > about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could
pull
> > it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is
ware
> > it starts to get interesting!
> >
> > He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
> > screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?
Seller
> > acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the
shop
> > he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with
all
> > inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
> > inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an
airworthiness
> > issue's.
> >
> > We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said
that
> > it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There
was
> > no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have
been
> > complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified
and
> > started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than
Fair to
> > me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.
> >
> > I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone.
The
> > plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
> > full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone
due
> > to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to
the
> > truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my
offer
> > my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So
I
> > went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted
out
> > $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale
we
> > shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
> >
> > Times
> > 4030 Airframe
> > 700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
> > 100 ON New Prop
> >
> > All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
> >
> > Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires,
break
> > rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,
steering
> > rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
> > another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness
squawks
> > little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done
monday.
> > I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
> >
> > Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
> > Excellent Advice.

[Carl Ellis]

"MRQB" > wrote in news:oD25c.38$bw6.37391
@news.uswest.net:

>
>

I thought it might be APEX. I bought my Taylorcraft from a fellow who has
a hangar there. 2.5 years ago the sub base (Bangor) had effectively
confiscated part of their strip by extending a no-fly zone into the first
500' or so of the runway. The navy was pretty heavy handed - there was
talk of installing cameras to catch air-space "violators" and other such
nonsense. A go-around could be pretty white-knuckled to stay out of
"their" airspace.

At that time it was a one-way strip - arriving and departing from the south
(ish) . There is a nice big hump in the runway so you need to taxi half-
way down and have a look-see, do a run-up, then back to the other end for
take-off.

- Carl -

[Ben Jackson]

In article >,
Carl Ellis > wrote:
>
>I thought it might be APEX. I bought my Taylorcraft from a fellow who has
>a hangar there. 2.5 years ago the sub base (Bangor) had effectively
>confiscated part of their strip by extending a no-fly zone into the first
>500' or so of the runway.

That "T"FR is smaller now. They replaced the circle-with-APEX-cutout
(I never saw a version that didn't leave about a mile and a half around
the airport) with a rectangular region that doesn't close it in on 3
sides. I noticed it last time I was copy those TFRs onto my charts.

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[[email protected]]

Know the feeling !!!,

MAN, WHAT a feeling! ...

Walking on the ramp towards my (well.. OUR) airplane...

..No jockying for a "rental slot" and cleaning up after the
last renter, wondering what/who was doing what.. (nice new flat spot
on the other 172's tire I noticed) ...

A beaut day here, so one of my "partners" said "lets go
flying" ..........and our plane was WAITING FOR US... (not the other
way around)

We have done a lot of work on it (all appearance items). it
sailed through it's annual/100 hr check needing 3 cowl fasteners
(that we suspected) ..

It looked like crap, but it appears that it got whatever it
needed, when needed maintenance - wise...

We put it back in the hanger, washed it underneath, touched
up some paint chips and turned out the lights...

Felt really, really good...

Dave



On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:43:14
-0800, "MRQB" > wrote:

>Yep thats right first time flying my airplane man that sounds werid,




>> You forgot...
>>
>> First time flying YOUR airplane! ;)
>

[Bill Denton]

Couple of points:

The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10 or
15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone withdrawing
$10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and the
feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on the
drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke dealer
simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and got
the other $5.00. So much for that idea!

As far as asking for the money a day in advance goes, that's just common
sense. Banks get robbed. The more money in the bank, the more money that
guts stolen. So banks try to limit their funds on hand to what they think
they will actually need in a day. Try walking into your nearest Krispy Kreme
and getting 10,000 donuts right now. It ain't going to happen! Krispy Kreme
only makes the donuts the feel they will sell in a certain period of time.
But if you call and order them, they'll be happy to whip out 10,000 for you.

And for whoever might be of an argumentive bent, I already know how much
interest a zillion dollars earns in a nanosecond, but the "robbery" example
is also correct, so let it go.


"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
> They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time to
> call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost refused
to
> give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it now!!!!!!
I
> said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so give me
> my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave me
the
> amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.
>
>
> I hate banks for that reason.
>
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> om...
> > What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in
> cash?
> >
> > "MRQB" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a
low
> cost
> > > time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early
> Thursday
> > > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
> area
> > > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am
woke
> him
> > > up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the
> phone
> > > price, price dependant upon inspection.
> > >
> > > A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got
> there
> > > before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar
> came
> > > out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell
> me a
> > > bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major
> annual to
> > > it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller
showed
> up
> > > about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we
could
> pull
> > > it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now
is
> ware
> > > it starts to get interesting!
> > >
> > > He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys
some
> > > screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?
> Seller
> > > acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the
> shop
> > > he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with
> all
> > > inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
> > > inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an
> airworthiness
> > > issue's.
> > >
> > > We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he
said
> that
> > > it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There
> was
> > > no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have
> been
> > > complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR
certified
> and
> > > started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than
> Fair to
> > > me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more
money.
> > >
> > > I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the
phone.
> The
> > > plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose
have
> > > full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the
phone
> due
> > > to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back
to
> the
> > > truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my
> offer
> > > my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking.
So
> I
> > > went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and
counted
> out
> > > $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of
sale
> we
> > > shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
> > >
> > > Times
> > > 4030 Airframe
> > > 700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
> > > 100 ON New Prop
> > >
> > > All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
> > >
> > > Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires,
> break
> > > rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,
> steering
> > > rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to
get
> > > another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness
> squawks
> > > little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done
> monday.
> > > I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
> > >
> > > Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
> > > Excellent Advice.
>
>

[Brad Salai]

Can you really get 10,000 Krispy Kream doughnuts? Come on, lets give it a
try!

Brad
"Bill Denton" > wrote in message
...
> Couple of points:
>
> The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10 or
> 15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone withdrawing
> $10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and
the
> feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on
the
> drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke dealer
> simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and
got
> the other $5.00. So much for that idea!
>
> As far as asking for the money a day in advance goes, that's just common
> sense. Banks get robbed. The more money in the bank, the more money that
> guts stolen. So banks try to limit their funds on hand to what they think
> they will actually need in a day. Try walking into your nearest Krispy
Kreme
> and getting 10,000 donuts right now. It ain't going to happen! Krispy
Kreme
> only makes the donuts the feel they will sell in a certain period of time.
> But if you call and order them, they'll be happy to whip out 10,000 for
you.
>
> And for whoever might be of an argumentive bent, I already know how much
> interest a zillion dollars earns in a nanosecond, but the "robbery"
example
> is also correct, so let it go.
>
>
> "MRQB" > wrote in message
> ...
> > They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time
to
> > call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost refused
> to
> > give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it
now!!!!!!
> I
> > said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so give
me
> > my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave me
> the
> > amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.
> >
> >
> > I hate banks for that reason.
> >
> >
> > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in
> > cash?
> > >
> > > "MRQB" > wrote in message
> > >...
> > > > Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a
> low
> > cost
> > > > time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early
> > Thursday
> > > > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
> > area
> > > > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am
> woke
> > him
> > > > up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the
> > phone
> > > > price, price dependant upon inspection.
> > > >
> > > > A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We
got
> > there
> > > > before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a
cigar
> > came
> > > > out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you
tell
> > me a
> > > > bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major
> > annual to
> > > > it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller
> showed
> > up
> > > > about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we
> could
> > pull
> > > > it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now
> is
> > ware
> > > > it starts to get interesting!
> > > >
> > > > He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys
> some
> > > > screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?
> > Seller
> > > > acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to
the
> > shop
> > > > he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now
with
> > all
> > > > inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
> > > > inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an
> > airworthiness
> > > > issue's.
> > > >
> > > > We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he
> said
> > that
> > > > it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987.
There
> > was
> > > > no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's
have
> > been
> > > > complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR
> certified
> > and
> > > > started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than
> > Fair to
> > > > me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more
> money.
> > > >
> > > > I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the
> phone.
> > The
> > > > plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose
> have
> > > > full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the
> phone
> > due
> > > > to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk
back
> to
> > the
> > > > truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than
my
> > offer
> > > > my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking.
> So
> > I
> > > > went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and
> counted
> > out
> > > > $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of
> sale
> > we
> > > > shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
> > > >
> > > > Times
> > > > 4030 Airframe
> > > > 700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
> > > > 100 ON New Prop
> > > >
> > > > All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
> > > >
> > > > Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires,
> > break
> > > > rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,
> > steering
> > > > rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to
> get
> > > > another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness
> > squawks
> > > > little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done
> > monday.
> > > > I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
> > > > Excellent Advice.
> >
> >
>
>

[MRQB]

Who cares about Krispy Kream we just got the largest HOOTERS in the USA here
ware there is a strip joint on every corner.


"Brad Salai" > wrote in message
...
> Can you really get 10,000 Krispy Kream doughnuts? Come on, lets give it a
> try!
>
> Brad
> "Bill Denton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Couple of points:
> >
> > The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10
or
> > 15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone
withdrawing
> > $10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and
> the
> > feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on
> the
> > drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke
dealer
> > simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and
> got
> > the other $5.00. So much for that idea!
> >
> > As far as asking for the money a day in advance goes, that's just common
> > sense. Banks get robbed. The more money in the bank, the more money that
> > guts stolen. So banks try to limit their funds on hand to what they
think
> > they will actually need in a day. Try walking into your nearest Krispy
> Kreme
> > and getting 10,000 donuts right now. It ain't going to happen! Krispy
> Kreme
> > only makes the donuts the feel they will sell in a certain period of
time.
> > But if you call and order them, they'll be happy to whip out 10,000 for
> you.
> >
> > And for whoever might be of an argumentive bent, I already know how much
> > interest a zillion dollars earns in a nanosecond, but the "robbery"
> example
> > is also correct, so let it go.
> >
> >
> > "MRQB" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time
> to
> > > call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost
refused
> > to
> > > give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it
> now!!!!!!
> > I
> > > said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so
give
> me
> > > my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave
me
> > the
> > > amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.
> > >
> > >
> > > I hate banks for that reason.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > > > What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k
in
> > > cash?
> > > >
> > > > "MRQB" > wrote in message
> > > >...
> > > > > Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me
a
> > low
> > > cost
> > > > > time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early
> > > Thursday
> > > > > night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a
local
> > > area
> > > > > person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at
5am
> > woke
> > > him
> > > > > up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over
the
> > > phone
> > > > > price, price dependant upon inspection.
> > > > >
> > > > > A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We
> got
> > > there
> > > > > before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a
> cigar
> > > came
> > > > > out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you
> tell
> > > me a
> > > > > bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major
> > > annual to
> > > > > it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller
> > showed
> > > up
> > > > > about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we
> > could
> > > pull
> > > > > it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane.
Now
> > is
> > > ware
> > > > > it starts to get interesting!
> > > > >
> > > > > He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys
> > some
> > > > > screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?
> > > Seller
> > > > > acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to
> the
> > > shop
> > > > > he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now
> with
> > > all
> > > > > inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre
buy
> > > > > inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an
> > > airworthiness
> > > > > issue's.
> > > > >
> > > > > We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he
> > said
> > > that
> > > > > it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987.
> There
> > > was
> > > > > no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's
> have
> > > been
> > > > > complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR
> > certified
> > > and
> > > > > started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more
than
> > > Fair to
> > > > > me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more
> > money.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the
> > phone.
> > > The
> > > > > plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It
dose
> > have
> > > > > full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the
> > phone
> > > due
> > > > > to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk
> back
> > to
> > > the
> > > > > truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than
> my
> > > offer
> > > > > my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is
asking.
> > So
> > > I
> > > > > went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and
> > counted
> > > out
> > > > > $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill
of
> > sale
> > > we
> > > > > shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
> > > > >
> > > > > Times
> > > > > 4030 Airframe
> > > > > 700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
> > > > > 100 ON New Prop
> > > > >
> > > > > All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
> > > > >
> > > > > Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New
tires,
> > > break
> > > > > rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel
gages,
> > > steering
> > > > > rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help
to
> > get
> > > > > another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non
airworthyness
> > > squawks
> > > > > little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting
done
> > > monday.
> > > > > I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All
The
> > > > > Excellent Advice.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[TTA Cherokee Driver]

MRQB wrote:

> Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low cost
> time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early Thursday
> night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
> person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke him
> up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the phone
> price, price dependant upon inspection.
> >
> Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
> Excellent Advice.
>

As one of the posters who gave you grief for your attitude in this, let
me say congratulations and many happy hours. Glad it finally worked out
for you.

[Jon Kraus]

I have purchased several houses with cash that were way over 10K and
have never had to fill out anything....

Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL
Student-IA

Bill Denton wrote:

>Couple of points:
>
>The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10 or
>15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone withdrawing
>$10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and the
>feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on the
>drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke dealer
>simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and got
>the other $5.00. So much for that idea!
>
>As far as asking for the money a day in advance goes, that's just common
>sense. Banks get robbed. The more money in the bank, the more money that
>guts stolen. So banks try to limit their funds on hand to what they think
>they will actually need in a day. Try walking into your nearest Krispy Kreme
>and getting 10,000 donuts right now. It ain't going to happen! Krispy Kreme
>only makes the donuts the feel they will sell in a certain period of time.
>But if you call and order them, they'll be happy to whip out 10,000 for you.
>
>And for whoever might be of an argumentive bent, I already know how much
>interest a zillion dollars earns in a nanosecond, but the "robbery" example
>is also correct, so let it go.
>
>
>"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time to
>>call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost refused
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it now!!!!!!
>>
>>
>I
>
>
>>said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so give me
>>my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave me
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.
>>
>>
>>I hate banks for that reason.
>>
>>
>>"Doug" > wrote in message
om...
>>
>>
>>>What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in
>>>
>>>
>>cash?
>>
>>
>>>"MRQB" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>...
>>
>>
>>>>Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a
>>>>
>>>>
>low
>
>
>>cost
>>
>>
>>>>time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early
>>>>
>>>>
>>Thursday
>>
>>
>>>>night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
>>>>
>>>>
>>area
>>
>>
>>>>person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am
>>>>
>>>>
>woke
>
>
>>him
>>
>>
>>>>up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the
>>>>
>>>>
>>phone
>>
>>
>>>>price, price dependant upon inspection.
>>>>
>>>>A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got
>>>>
>>>>
>>there
>>
>>
>>>>before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar
>>>>
>>>>
>>came
>>
>>
>>>>out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell
>>>>
>>>>
>>me a
>>
>>
>>>>bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major
>>>>
>>>>
>>annual to
>>
>>
>>>>it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller
>>>>
>>>>
>showed
>
>
>>up
>>
>>
>>>>about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we
>>>>
>>>>
>could
>
>
>>pull
>>
>>
>>>>it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now
>>>>
>>>>
>is
>
>
>>ware
>>
>>
>>>>it starts to get interesting!
>>>>
>>>>He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys
>>>>
>>>>
>some
>
>
>>>>screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?
>>>>
>>>>
>>Seller
>>
>>
>>>>acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the
>>>>
>>>>
>>shop
>>
>>
>>>>he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with
>>>>
>>>>
>>all
>>
>>
>>>>inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
>>>>inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an
>>>>
>>>>
>>airworthiness
>>
>>
>>>>issue's.
>>>>
>>>>We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he
>>>>
>>>>
>said
>
>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>>it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There
>>>>
>>>>
>>was
>>
>>
>>>>no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have
>>>>
>>>>
>>been
>>
>>
>>>>complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR
>>>>
>>>>
>certified
>
>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>>started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than
>>>>
>>>>
>>Fair to
>>
>>
>>>>me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more
>>>>
>>>>
>money.
>
>
>>>>I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the
>>>>
>>>>
>phone.
>
>
>>The
>>
>>
>>>>plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose
>>>>
>>>>
>have
>
>
>>>>full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the
>>>>
>>>>
>phone
>
>
>>due
>>
>>
>>>>to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back
>>>>
>>>>
>to
>
>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my
>>>>
>>>>
>>offer
>>
>>
>>>>my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking.
>>>>
>>>>
>So
>
>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and
>>>>
>>>>
>counted
>
>
>>out
>>
>>
>>>>$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of
>>>>
>>>>
>sale
>
>
>>we
>>
>>
>>>>shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
>>>>
>>>>Times
>>>>4030 Airframe
>>>>700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
>>>>100 ON New Prop
>>>>
>>>>All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
>>>>
>>>>Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires,
>>>>
>>>>
>>break
>>
>>
>>>>rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,
>>>>
>>>>
>>steering
>>
>>
>>>>rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to
>>>>
>>>>
>get
>
>
>>>>another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness
>>>>
>>>>
>>squawks
>>
>>
>>>>little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done
>>>>
>>>>
>>monday.
>>
>>
>>>>I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
>>>>Excellent Advice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

[Bill Denton]

How long ago?

Did you withdraw the money from a financial institution or was it in a safe
or something similar?



"Jon Kraus" > wrote in message
...
I have purchased several houses with cash that were way over 10K and have
never had to fill out anything....

Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL
Student-IA

Bill Denton wrote:

Couple of points:

The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10 or
15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone withdrawing
$10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and the
feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on the
drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke dealer
simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and got
the other $5.00. So much for that idea!

As far as asking for the money a day in advance goes, that's just common
sense. Banks get robbed. The more money in the bank, the more money that
guts stolen. So banks try to limit their funds on hand to what they think
they will actually need in a day. Try walking into your nearest Krispy Kreme
and getting 10,000 donuts right now. It ain't going to happen! Krispy Kreme
only makes the donuts the feel they will sell in a certain period of time.
But if you call and order them, they'll be happy to whip out 10,000 for you.

And for whoever might be of an argumentive bent, I already know how much
interest a zillion dollars earns in a nanosecond, but the "robbery" example
is also correct, so let it go.


"MRQB" > wrote in message
...

They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time to
call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost refused

to

give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it now!!!!!!

I

said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so give me
my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave me

the

amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.


I hate banks for that reason.


"Doug" > wrote in message
om...

What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in

cash?

"MRQB" > wrote in message

>...

Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a

low

cost

time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early

Thursday

night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local

area

person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am

woke

him

up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the

phone

price, price dependant upon inspection.

A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got

there

before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar

came

out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell

me a

bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major

annual to

it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller

showed

up

about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we

could

pull

it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now

is

ware

it starts to get interesting!

He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys

some

screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?

Seller

acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the

shop

he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with

all

inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an

airworthiness

issue's.

We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he

said

that

it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There

was

no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have

been

complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR

certified

and

started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than

Fair to

me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more

money.

I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the

phone.

The

plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose

have

full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the

phone

due

to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back

to

the

truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my

offer

my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking.

So

I

went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and

counted

out

$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of

sale

we

shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.

Times
4030 Airframe
700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
100 ON New Prop

All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8

Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires,

break

rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,

steering

rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to

get

another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness

squawks

little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done

monday.

I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.

Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
Excellent Advice.

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Bill Denton" > wrote in message
...
> How long ago?
>
> Did you withdraw the money from a financial institution or was it in a
safe
> or something similar?
>
>
> Bill Denton wrote:
>
> Couple of points:
>
> The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10 or
> 15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone withdrawing
> $10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and
the
> feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on
the
> drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke dealer
> simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and
got
> the other $5.00. So much for that idea!

Now they track anyone making more that $xxxx worth of withdrawals/deposits
over a certain time period.

It's had a really significant impact, hasn't it.

[Bill Denton]

Well, we're damn sure keeping those folks who run flea markets and other
small cash businesses under control!


"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bill Denton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > How long ago?
> >
> > Did you withdraw the money from a financial institution or was it in a
> safe
> > or something similar?
> >
> >
> > Bill Denton wrote:
> >
> > Couple of points:
> >
> > The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10
or
> > 15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone
withdrawing
> > $10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and
> the
> > feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on
> the
> > drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke
dealer
> > simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and
> got
> > the other $5.00. So much for that idea!
>
> Now they track anyone making more that $xxxx worth of withdrawals/deposits
> over a certain time period.
>
> It's had a really significant impact, hasn't it.
>
>
>
>
>

[Jon Kraus]

Today I just walked up with a checking withdrawl slip and had them give
me a cashiers check made out to the title company. That is probably the
catch. I didn't get cash. That much cash would make me too nervous.

Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL
Student-IA

Bill Denton wrote:

>How long ago?
>
>Did you withdraw the money from a financial institution or was it in a safe
>or something similar?
>
>
>
>"Jon Kraus" > wrote in message
...
>I have purchased several houses with cash that were way over 10K and have
>never had to fill out anything....
>
>Jon Kraus
>PP-ASEL
>Student-IA
>
>Bill Denton wrote:
>
>Couple of points:
>
>The form had nothing to do with the bank. I guess you missed it, but 10 or
>15 years ago regulations went into effect that required anyone withdrawing
>$10,000 or more from a financial institution had to fill out a form and the
>feds had to be notified of the transaction. The idea was to cut down on the
>drug trafficking and money laundering. Of course, your average coke dealer
>simply withdrew $9,995, went outside for a smoke, then came back in and got
>the other $5.00. So much for that idea!
>
>As far as asking for the money a day in advance goes, that's just common
>sense. Banks get robbed. The more money in the bank, the more money that
>guts stolen. So banks try to limit their funds on hand to what they think
>they will actually need in a day. Try walking into your nearest Krispy Kreme
>and getting 10,000 donuts right now. It ain't going to happen! Krispy Kreme
>only makes the donuts the feel they will sell in a certain period of time.
>But if you call and order them, they'll be happy to whip out 10,000 for you.
>
>And for whoever might be of an argumentive bent, I already know how much
>interest a zillion dollars earns in a nanosecond, but the "robbery" example
>is also correct, so let it go.
>
>
>"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
>
>They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time to
>call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost refused
>
>to
>
>give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it now!!!!!!
>
>I
>
>said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so give me
>my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave me
>
>the
>
>amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.
>
>
>I hate banks for that reason.
>
>
>"Doug" > wrote in message
om...
>
>What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in
>
>cash?
>
>"MRQB" > wrote in message
>
>...
>
>Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a
>
>low
>
>cost
>
>time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early
>
>Thursday
>
>night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local
>
>area
>
>person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am
>
>woke
>
>him
>
>up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the
>
>phone
>
>price, price dependant upon inspection.
>
>A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got
>
>there
>
>before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar
>
>came
>
>out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell
>
>me a
>
>bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major
>
>annual to
>
>it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller
>
>showed
>
>up
>
>about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we
>
>could
>
>pull
>
>it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now
>
>is
>
>ware
>
>it starts to get interesting!
>
>He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys
>
>some
>
>screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?
>
>Seller
>
>acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the
>
>shop
>
>he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with
>
>all
>
>inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
>inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an
>
>airworthiness
>
>issue's.
>
>We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he
>
>said
>
>that
>
>it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There
>
>was
>
>no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have
>
>been
>
>complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR
>
>certified
>
>and
>
>started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than
>
>Fair to
>
>me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more
>
>money.
>
>I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the
>
>phone.
>
>The
>
>plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose
>
>have
>
>full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the
>
>phone
>
>due
>
>to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back
>
>to
>
>the
>
>truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my
>
>offer
>
>my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking.
>
>So
>
>I
>
>went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and
>
>counted
>
>out
>
>$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of
>
>sale
>
>we
>
>shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
>
>Times
>4030 Airframe
>700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
>100 ON New Prop
>
>All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8
>
>Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires,
>
>break
>
>rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,
>
>steering
>
>rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to
>
>get
>
>another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness
>
>squawks
>
>little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done
>
>monday.
>
>I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>
>Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
>Excellent Advice.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Russell Kent]

Jon Kraus wrote:

> Today I just walked up with a checking withdrawl slip and had them give
> me a cashiers check made out to the title company. That is probably the
> catch. I didn't get cash. That much cash would make me too nervous.

Ah, therein lies the discrepancy. Purchasing a house (boat, plane, RV, ...) "for
cash" means one does not take out a loan to make the purchase. In this
discussion about getting large amounts of cash out of the bank, we mean literally
*cash* (i.e. slips of cotton-based paper with etchings of dead Presidents on
them).

Russell Kent

[Jon Kraus]

I meant cash.... I just told them to convert the dead presidents into a
cashiers check....

Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL
Student-IA

Russell Kent wrote:

>Jon Kraus wrote:
>
>
>
>>Today I just walked up with a checking withdrawl slip and had them give
>>me a cashiers check made out to the title company. That is probably the
>>catch. I didn't get cash. That much cash would make me too nervous.
>>
>>
>
>Ah, therein lies the discrepancy. Purchasing a house (boat, plane, RV, ...) "for
>cash" means one does not take out a loan to make the purchase. In this
>discussion about getting large amounts of cash out of the bank, we mean literally
>*cash* (i.e. slips of cotton-based paper with etchings of dead Presidents on
>them).
>
>Russell Kent
>
>
>

[Russell Kent]

You probably know this, but a cashier's check isn't the same as
cash. The regulations about withdrawing large amounts of cash
mean *cash* and not other instruments. If you want more
information, may I respectfully suggest that you ask the bank
officer then next time you're there.

Russell Kent

Jon Kraus wrote:

> I meant cash.... I just told them to convert the dead presidents
> into a cashiers check....
>
> Jon Kraus
> PP-ASEL
> Student-IA
>
> Russell Kent wrote:
>
>> Jon Kraus wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Today I just walked up with a checking withdrawl slip and
>> > had them give
>> > me a cashiers check made out to the title company. That is
>> > probably the
>> > catch. I didn't get cash. That much cash would make me too
>> > nervous.
>> >
>> Ah, therein lies the discrepancy. Purchasing a house (boat,
>> plane, RV, ...) "for
>> cash" means one does not take out a loan to make the
>> purchase. In this
>> discussion about getting large amounts of cash out of the
>> bank, we mean literally
>> *cash* (i.e. slips of cotton-based paper with etchings of dead
>> Presidents on
>> them).
>>
>> Russell Kent
>>
>>

[MRQB]

cashiers check = paper trail
dead presidents = no way to trace what you did with the money

[Jon Kraus]

Paper trail is fine with me.... Nothing to hide here...

MRQB wrote:

> cashiers check = paper trail
> dead presidents = no way to trace what you did with the money

[Teacherjh]

>> Paper trail is fine with me.... Nothing to hide here...

....until the next administration.

Jose


--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Bob Fry]

Jon Kraus > writes:

> I meant cash.... I just told them to convert the dead presidents into a cashiers
> check....

There's cash, and then there's cash.

We are talking about anonymous paper cash. The reason for the $10,000
limit, as others have said, is to curtail druggie transactions. The
key here is the anonymity of paper cash.

A cashiers check has a payee and thus is not anonymous, so they don't
care. I think of checks and so on as cash instruments.

[Bob Fry]

Jon Kraus > writes:

> Paper trail is fine with me.... Nothing to hide here...

Hmmm....thoughtful people would not agree with that, including our
founders. Why bother to have constitutional rights against
unreasonable searches and seizures? You've got nothing to hide, eh?
The right to be left alone surely is important to a free society.

[Paul Folbrecht]

You buy HOUSES with CASH?! Holy ****.

Jon Kraus wrote:

> I have purchased several houses with cash that were way over 10K and
> have never had to fill out anything....
>
> Jon Kraus
> PP-ASEL
> Student-IA

[Paul Folbrecht]

Ah, yeah, cashier's check is completely different (and obviously the
best way to go about this).

I had one made out for over $70K myself a couple months ago for a lot
purchase. Wouldn't have gone there with $70K in briefcases. No siree.
I'm not in the mob (anymore).

Jon Kraus wrote:

> Today I just walked up with a checking withdrawl slip and had them give
> me a cashiers check made out to the title company. That is probably the
> catch. I didn't get cash. That much cash would make me too nervous.

[Ben Jackson]

In article et>,
Paul Folbrecht > wrote:
>I had one made out for over $70K myself a couple months ago for a lot
>purchase. Wouldn't have gone there with $70K in briefcases.

Sir, I offer you 175 fine leather briefcases for your fine property!

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[Jürgen Exner]

"Jon Kraus" > wrote in message
...
> I meant cash.... I just told them to convert the dead presidents into a
cashiers check....

Well, a check (no matter if personal or certified or cashiers or even money
order) is certainly not cash.

jue

[MRQB]

You speak it well there bob, We should not be asked what we are doing with
the money that we withdraw from the bank and if I want to go buy something I
don't want everyone knowing what I purchase. What I purchase is my business
not my banks nor the governments, yes your bank will release your records.


"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
> Jon Kraus > writes:
>
> > Paper trail is fine with me.... Nothing to hide here...
>
> Hmmm....thoughtful people would not agree with that, including our
> founders. Why bother to have constitutional rights against
> unreasonable searches and seizures? You've got nothing to hide, eh?
> The right to be left alone surely is important to a free society.

[MRQB]

briefcases for 70k in cash hahahahahaha 70k will fit in your coat pocket
very easy!


"Paul Folbrecht" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Ah, yeah, cashier's check is completely different (and obviously the
> best way to go about this).
>
> I had one made out for over $70K myself a couple months ago for a lot
> purchase. Wouldn't have gone there with $70K in briefcases. No siree.
> I'm not in the mob (anymore).
>
> Jon Kraus wrote:
>
> > Today I just walked up with a checking withdrawl slip and had them give
> > me a cashiers check made out to the title company. That is probably the
> > catch. I didn't get cash. That much cash would make me too nervous.

[MRQB]

How else do you buy a house?

"Paul Folbrecht" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> You buy HOUSES with CASH?! Holy ****.
>
> Jon Kraus wrote:
>
> > I have purchased several houses with cash that were way over 10K and
> > have never had to fill out anything....
> >
> > Jon Kraus
> > PP-ASEL
> > Student-IA

[Jon Kraus]

I think I am pretty thoughtful... Are you paranoid or just a Democrat? :-)

Bob Fry wrote:

>Jon Kraus > writes:
>
>
>
>>Paper trail is fine with me.... Nothing to hide here...
>>
>>
>
>Hmmm....thoughtful people would not agree with that, including our
>founders. Why bother to have constitutional rights against
>unreasonable searches and seizures? You've got nothing to hide, eh?
>The right to be left alone surely is important to a free society.
>
>

[Jon Kraus]

I must confess that they are Bank Owned (REO'S) and in need of many
repairs... besides flying it is another hobby.... Shoot, I gotta have
some way to afford airplane time... :-)



Paul Folbrecht wrote:

> You buy HOUSES with CASH?! Holy ****.
>
> Jon Kraus wrote:
>
>> I have purchased several houses with cash that were way over 10K and
>> have never had to fill out anything....
>> Jon Kraus
>> PP-ASEL
>> Student-IA
>

[G.R. Patterson III]

MRQB wrote:
>
> How else do you buy a house?

I buy them with checks.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

[Paul Sengupta]

Congrats! But didn't you have an absolute limit of $15k and give
a hard time to someone who tried to sell you a plane (however good
or bad) for $15.9k for not conforming to your original request?

Paul

"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
> counted out
> $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale
we
> shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
> I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.

[Teacherjh]

>> 70k will fit in your coat pocket very easy!

Not in used singles. :)

Jose

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[Russell Kent]

MRQB wrote:

> briefcases for 70k in cash hahahahahaha 70k will fit in your coat pocket
> very easy!

Provided your coat pocket can expand to about 3 inches.

Russell Kent

[MRQB]

Yes, But I made the offer on this one, It exceeded every thing that I was
looking for in an airplane well worth the extra $1,000 I spent I never had a
airplane start so easy and the controls function so smoth.

"Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
...
> Congrats! But didn't you have an absolute limit of $15k and give
> a hard time to someone who tried to sell you a plane (however good
> or bad) for $15.9k for not conforming to your original request?
>
> Paul
>
> "MRQB" > wrote in message
> ...
> > counted out
> > $16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale
> we
> > shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
> > I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>
>

[Paul Folbrecht]

Now that was funny.

Ben Jackson wrote:
> In article et>,
> Paul Folbrecht > wrote:
>
>>I had one made out for over $70K myself a couple months ago for a lot
>>purchase. Wouldn't have gone there with $70K in briefcases.
>
>
> Sir, I offer you 175 fine leather briefcases for your fine property!
>

[Paul Folbrecht]

Guess you'd probably know.

MRQB wrote:

> briefcases for 70k in cash hahahahahaha 70k will fit in your coat pocket
> very easy!

[Paul Folbrecht]

I don't know if your question was serious or not, but probably 95% of
them are bought with mortgages.

MRQB wrote:

> How else do you buy a house?
>
> "Paul Folbrecht" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>
>>You buy HOUSES with CASH?! Holy ****.
>>
>>Jon Kraus wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have purchased several houses with cash that were way over 10K and
>>>have never had to fill out anything....
>>>
>>>Jon Kraus
>>>PP-ASEL
>>>Student-IA
>
>
>

[Paul Folbrecht]

Hey M, I happen to know of a catastrophic problem with this aircraft you
just bought. Tell you what, I'll take it off your hands for exactly
what you paid for it? I guess I'm a nice guy. Deal?

MRQB wrote:

> Yes, But I made the offer on this one, It exceeded every thing that I was
> looking for in an airplane well worth the extra $1,000 I spent I never had a
> airplane start so easy and the controls function so smoth.
>
> "Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Congrats! But didn't you have an absolute limit of $15k and give
>>a hard time to someone who tried to sell you a plane (however good
>>or bad) for $15.9k for not conforming to your original request?
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>counted out
>>>$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale
>>
>>we
>>
>>>shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
>>>I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>>
>>
>
>

[MRQB]

Yes i would

"Paul Folbrecht" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Guess you'd probably know.
>
> MRQB wrote:
>
> > briefcases for 70k in cash hahahahahaha 70k will fit in your coat pocket
> > very easy!

[MRQB]

Catastrophic problem, What would that be?


"Paul Folbrecht" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Hey M, I happen to know of a catastrophic problem with this aircraft you
> just bought. Tell you what, I'll take it off your hands for exactly
> what you paid for it? I guess I'm a nice guy. Deal?
>
> MRQB wrote:
>
> > Yes, But I made the offer on this one, It exceeded every thing that I
was
> > looking for in an airplane well worth the extra $1,000 I spent I never
had a
> > airplane start so easy and the controls function so smoth.
> >
> > "Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Congrats! But didn't you have an absolute limit of $15k and give
> >>a hard time to someone who tried to sell you a plane (however good
> >>or bad) for $15.9k for not conforming to your original request?
> >>
> >>Paul
> >>
> >>"MRQB" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>counted out
> >>>$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of
sale
> >>
> >>we
> >>
> >>>shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
> >>>I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

[Jon Kraus]

Duuuuhhhhh.....

MRQB wrote:

>Catastrophic problem, What would that be?
>
>
>"Paul Folbrecht" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
>
>>Hey M, I happen to know of a catastrophic problem with this aircraft you
>> just bought. Tell you what, I'll take it off your hands for exactly
>>what you paid for it? I guess I'm a nice guy. Deal?
>>
>>MRQB wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Yes, But I made the offer on this one, It exceeded every thing that I
>>>
>>>
>was
>
>
>>>looking for in an airplane well worth the extra $1,000 I spent I never
>>>
>>>
>had a
>
>
>>>airplane start so easy and the controls function so smoth.
>>>
>>>"Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Congrats! But didn't you have an absolute limit of $15k and give
>>>>a hard time to someone who tried to sell you a plane (however good
>>>>or bad) for $15.9k for not conforming to your original request?
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>"MRQB" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>counted out
>>>>>$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>sale
>
>
>>>>we
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.
>>>>>I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>

[VideoGuy]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> MRQB wrote:
> >
> > How else do you buy a house?
>
> I buy them with checks.
>

Me too, One Month at a time!

GWK