PowerFlarm Declaration

[Karl Kunz[_2_]]

Is there a way to declare to a portable PowerFlarm or do you just use written declaration with the IGC file?

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Jun 7, 2:56*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
> Is there a way to declare to a portable PowerFlarm or do you just use written declaration with the IGC file?

Modify your flarmcfg.txt file. Use free flarm config tool software -
http://www.segelflug-software.de/prod_flarmcfgtool.html. Change the
waypoint file using the file of your country (most are in the
software). Select your task waypoints. Push button to make a
flarmcfg.txt file on your microSD card. Insert microSD card into your
portable. Power up.

If your desired waypoints aren't in the country waypoint file, you may
have to edit the waypoint.fln file.

You may be able to declare directly from a PDA. I am able to create
declarations in XC Soar, and send to my PowerFLARM Core/Brick via an
IOIO card and android phone.

Either way gets a valid IGC declaration into my PowerFLARM. Easiest/
cheapest is via microSD or USB flarmcfg.txt file.

[Karl Kunz[_2_]]

I believe the European Flarm is different then the US PowerFlarm. Does this work with US version.


On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:19:51 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2:56*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to declare to a portable PowerFlarm or do you just use written declaration with the IGC file?
>
>
>
> Modify your flarmcfg.txt file. Use free flarm config tool software -
>
> http://www.segelflug-software.de/prod_flarmcfgtool.html. Change the
>
> waypoint file using the file of your country (most are in the
>
> software). Select your task waypoints. Push button to make a
>
> flarmcfg.txt file on your microSD card. Insert microSD card into your
>
> portable. Power up.
>
>
>
> If your desired waypoints aren't in the country waypoint file, you may
>
> have to edit the waypoint.fln file.
>
>
>
> You may be able to declare directly from a PDA. I am able to create
>
> declarations in XC Soar, and send to my PowerFLARM Core/Brick via an
>
> IOIO card and android phone.
>
>
>
> Either way gets a valid IGC declaration into my PowerFLARM. Easiest/
>
> cheapest is via microSD or USB flarmcfg.txt file.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Jun 7, 3:24*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
> I believe the European Flarm is different then the US PowerFlarm. Does this work with US version.
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> On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:19:51 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> > On Jun 7, 2:56*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
>
> > > Is there a way to declare to a portable PowerFlarm or do you just use written declaration with the IGC file?
>
> > Modify your flarmcfg.txt file. *Use free flarm config tool software -
>
> >http://www.segelflug-software.de/prod_flarmcfgtool.html. Change the
>
> > waypoint file using the file of your country (most are in the
>
> > software). Select your task waypoints. Push button to make a
>
> > flarmcfg.txt file on your microSD card. Insert microSD card into your
>
> > portable. Power up.
>
> > If your desired waypoints aren't in the country waypoint file, you may
>
> > have to edit the waypoint.fln file.
>
> > You may be able to declare directly from a PDA. I am able to create
>
> > declarations in XC Soar, and send to my PowerFLARM Core/Brick via an
>
> > IOIO card and android phone.
>
> > Either way gets a valid IGC declaration into my PowerFLARM. *Easiest/
>
> > cheapest is via microSD or USB flarmcfg.txt file.

It does in Canada with a Brick - same as US. FLARM file is the same
no matter what hardware it is on.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Jun 7, 3:29*pm, Dan Daly > wrote:
> On Jun 7, 3:24*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
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> > I believe the European Flarm is different then the US PowerFlarm. Does this work with US version.
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> > On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:19:51 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> > > On Jun 7, 2:56*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
>
> > > > Is there a way to declare to a portable PowerFlarm or do you just use written declaration with the IGC file?
>
> > > Modify your flarmcfg.txt file. *Use free flarm config tool software -
>
> > >http://www.segelflug-software.de/prod_flarmcfgtool.html. Change the
>
> > > waypoint file using the file of your country (most are in the
>
> > > software). Select your task waypoints. Push button to make a
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> > > flarmcfg.txt file on your microSD card. Insert microSD card into your
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> > > portable. Power up.
>
> > > If your desired waypoints aren't in the country waypoint file, you may
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> > > have to edit the waypoint.fln file.
>
> > > You may be able to declare directly from a PDA. I am able to create
>
> > > declarations in XC Soar, and send to my PowerFLARM Core/Brick via an
>
> > > IOIO card and android phone.
>
> > > Either way gets a valid IGC declaration into my PowerFLARM. *Easiest/
>
> > > cheapest is via microSD or USB flarmcfg.txt file.
>
> It does in Canada with a Brick - same as US. *FLARM file is the same
> no matter what hardware it is on.

################################################## ######################
# declaration
################################################## ######################

//Task declaration
$PFLAC,S,NEWTASK,12may13
$PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4053033N,07754433W,Ridge So
$PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4102167N,07735883W,Howard D
$PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4039767N,07813100W,Tyrone Gp
$PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4108033N,07721233W,Lock Hav
$PFLAC,S,ADDWP,3941733N,07845850W,Quarry3
$PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4053033N,07754433W,Ridge So

Here's a 500 I declared from Ridge Soaring Gliderport using it from my
flarmconfig.txt file using the software.

[Karl Kunz[_2_]]

Thanks Dan, I'll give it a try.

On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:56 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> On Jun 7, 3:29*pm, Dan Daly > wrote:
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> > > On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:19:51 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 7, 2:56*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
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> > > > > Is there a way to declare to a portable PowerFlarm or do you just use written declaration with the IGC file?
>
> >
>
> > > > Modify your flarmcfg.txt file. *Use free flarm config tool software -
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> > > >http://www.segelflug-software.de/prod_flarmcfgtool.html. Change the
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> > > > waypoint file using the file of your country (most are in the
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> > > > software). Select your task waypoints. Push button to make a
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> > > > flarmcfg.txt file on your microSD card. Insert microSD card into your
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> > > > portable. Power up.
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> > > > If your desired waypoints aren't in the country waypoint file, you may
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> > > > have to edit the waypoint.fln file.
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> > > > You may be able to declare directly from a PDA. I am able to create
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> >
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> > > > declarations in XC Soar, and send to my PowerFLARM Core/Brick via an
>
> >
>
> > > > IOIO card and android phone.
>
> >
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> > > > Either way gets a valid IGC declaration into my PowerFLARM. *Easiest/
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> > > > cheapest is via microSD or USB flarmcfg.txt file.
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> > It does in Canada with a Brick - same as US. *FLARM file is the same
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> > no matter what hardware it is on.
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> ################################################## ######################
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> # declaration
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> ################################################## ######################
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> //Task declaration
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> $PFLAC,S,NEWTASK,12may13
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> $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4053033N,07754433W,Ridge So
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> $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4102167N,07735883W,Howard D
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> $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4039767N,07813100W,Tyrone Gp
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> $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4108033N,07721233W,Lock Hav
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> $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,3941733N,07845850W,Quarry3
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> $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4053033N,07754433W,Ridge So
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>
>
> Here's a 500 I declared from Ridge Soaring Gliderport using it from my
>
> flarmconfig.txt file using the software.

[[email protected]]

On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:22:20 PM UTC-4, Karl Kunz wrote:
> Thanks Dan, I'll give it a try.
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> > > > > declarations in XC Soar, and send to my PowerFLARM Core/Brick via an
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> > > > > IOIO card and android phone.
>
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> > > > > Either way gets a valid IGC declaration into my PowerFLARM. *Easiest/
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> > > > > cheapest is via microSD or USB flarmcfg.txt file.
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> > $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4053033N,07754433W,Ridge So
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> > $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4102167N,07735883W,Howard D
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> > $PFLAC,S,ADDWP,4039767N,07813100W,Tyrone Gp
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> > Here's a 500 I declared from Ridge Soaring Gliderport using it from my
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> > flarmconfig.txt file using the software.

Have you had your Flarm calibrated to use is for a badge declaration?

[Karl Kunz[_2_]]

It was serviced for a recall just a few months ago and sealed per IGC so I assume it was also calibrated.

On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:49:54 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:22:20 PM UTC-4, Karl Kunz wrote:
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> > Thanks Dan, I'll give it a try.
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> > > > > > Modify your flarmcfg.txt file. *Use free flarm config tool software -
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> > > > > >http://www.segelflug-software.de/prod_flarmcfgtool.html. Change the
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> > > > > > waypoint file using the file of your country (most are in the
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> > > > > > software). Select your task waypoints. Push button to make a
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> > > > > > flarmcfg.txt file on your microSD card. Insert microSD card into your
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> > > > > > declarations in XC Soar, and send to my PowerFLARM Core/Brick via an
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> > > Here's a 500 I declared from Ridge Soaring Gliderport using it from my
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> > > flarmconfig.txt file using the software.
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> Have you had your Flarm calibrated to use is for a badge declaration?

[Andy[_1_]]

On Jun 7, 7:13*pm, Karl Kunz > wrote:
> It was serviced for a recall just a few months ago and sealed per IGC so I assume it was also calibrated.

Neither of mine is calibrated and one was recently modified under a
recall notice.

It may be ok to calibrate after the event, or calibration may not even
be required. Check the rules for whatever flight you are attempting!

Andy

[Paul Remde]

Hi Karl,

FLARM did not calibrate the PowerFLARM units when manufactured. They still
do not calibrate new units before shipment. They don't think many customers
need it. The units were not calibrated during the recall updates.

I can calibrate them here. I ask customers if they want them calibrated
before shipment.

The calibration only needs to be done of you want to use it to validate
badge and record flights or use it in international competitions. It can be
calibrated after the flight for many badge and record flights.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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"Karl Kunz" wrote in message
...

It was serviced for a recall just a few months ago and sealed per IGC so I
assume it was also calibrated.

On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:49:54 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:22:20 PM UTC-4, Karl Kunz wrote:
>
> > Thanks Dan, I'll give it a try.
>
> >
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> > On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:41:56 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
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> Have you had your Flarm calibrated to use is for a badge declaration?

[son_of_flubber]

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 3:00:29 PM UTC-4, Paul Remde wrote:
> FLARM did not calibrate the PowerFLARM units when manufactured.

How could a collision avoidance device that uses position and flight path possibly do it's job if it were not "calibrated"?

Does "IGC/FAI Calibration" involve sending a fee to IGC/FAI?

[Andy[_1_]]

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> It uses (mainly) GPS Altitude. Pressure Altitude is used in it's Flight
> Recorder function.
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GPS altitude should be used for the FLARM function but I sure hope GPS
altitude is not used for alerting of transponder targets. Transponder
altitude squawk is pressure altitude and any receiving system must use
internal pressure altitude, or own ship squawked altitude if
transponder equipped, to determine altitude difference.

Andy

[[email protected]]

> GPS altitude should be used for the FLARM function but I sure hope GPS
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> altitude is not used for alerting of transponder targets. Transponder

Yes. We do subtract apples from apples, and oranges from oranges, no worries :)

Best
--Gerhard (FLARM dev mgr)