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Evan Ludeman[_4_]
June 8th 13, 01:17 AM
2.2.1304 available here http://www.clearnav.net/main/cn-downloads.html

Fixes a couple of bugs in 2.1.1281. Details in release notes.

Please visit our forum for discussion of all things ClearNav
http://clearnav.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php


Evan Ludeman for CNi

Evan Ludeman[_4_]
June 8th 13, 01:19 AM
On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:17:40 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
> 2.2.1304 available here http://www.clearnav.net/main/cn-downloads.html

Excuse me, that should be 2.1.1304.

Jim - 77
June 8th 13, 02:41 AM
On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:17:40 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
> 2.2.1304 available here http://www.clearnav.net/main/cn-downloads.html
>
>
>
> Fixes a couple of bugs in 2.1.1281. Details in release notes.
>
> Evan, would it be too much to ask to tell us what bugs are fixed...too say "a couple of bugs are fixed" is just not adequate.

I am trying hard to figure out what this vario is doing and I would appreciate more precise comments

Thanks, Jim Price
>
> Please visit our forum for discussion of all things ClearNav
>
> http://clearnav.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php
>
>
>
>
>
> Evan Ludeman for CNi

Evan Ludeman[_4_]
June 8th 13, 03:05 AM
Release Notes: ClearNavVario 2.1.1304 2013-06-07

Minor Bug Fixes:

Warnings (Gear, Spoilers) fixed to eliminate a SPOILER alarm during the landing rollout. The alarm will now reset to the normal “before launch” mode 60 seconds after the speed has dropped below 25 knots during the landing phase. In other words, expect a SPOILER alarm after landing unless the spoilers are locked!

Pointer indicates zero on the ground in all modes (TE, N, RN)

Pointer Zero screen relocated to the Vario Settings ribbon

Volume Adjust screen changed to a range of 0 – 25

Jim - 77
June 8th 13, 12:39 PM
On Friday, June 7, 2013 10:05:32 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
> Release Notes: ClearNavVario 2.1.1304 2013-06-07
>
>
>
> Minor Bug Fixes:
>
>
>
> Warnings (Gear, Spoilers) fixed to eliminate a SPOILER alarm during the landing rollout. The alarm will now reset to the normal “before launch” mode 60 seconds after the speed has dropped below 25 knots during the landing phase. In other words, expect a SPOILER alarm after landing unless the spoilers are locked!
>
>
>
> Pointer indicates zero on the ground in all modes (TE, N, RN)
>
>
>
> Pointer Zero screen relocated to the Vario Settings ribbon
>
>
>
> Volume Adjust screen changed to a range of 0 – 25

Evan, thanks....Jim

John Firth[_4_]
June 8th 13, 02:55 PM
The great thing about software control of parameters is
that one can change them; a simple program for the PC to change sime basic
settings would be good.
I have downloaded a recent uprgrade but there remains for me
two items which need attention.

1. changing the short climb smoothing to something which
better reflects a fuill circle
2. control of -ve and -ve audio thresholds to provide a dead band.

Changing any setting in flight ( unless you are alone in wave)
is distracting and potentialy dangerous; eg changing the
MacCready value.

a really valuable addition would be an output for a zero reader
for cruise. ( faster slower) the sinking audio tone is inaudible
behind the airflow noise. A small vertical scale meter can be installed on
the instument cowl well forward.; no need to refocus.
I had such an indicator on a vario-computer made for the
1970 WGC and it was very useful.

These days one could have array of LED s under a cowl
instead of a meter ( with intensity control), maybe blinking to register in
the peripheral vision; anything to replace constantly referring to the
vario.

Evan now has something to work on.
Please give me a zero reader output!

John Firth Ottawa. ( PIK 20E)




At 11:39 08 June 2013, Jim - 77 wrote:
>On Friday, June 7, 2013 10:05:32 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
>> Release Notes: ClearNavVario 2.1.1304 2013-06-07
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Minor Bug Fixes:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Warnings (Gear, Spoilers) fixed to eliminate a SPOILER alarm during the
>l=
>anding rollout. The alarm will now reset to the normal =93before
>launch=94=
> mode 60 seconds after the speed has dropped below 25 knots during the
>land=
>ing phase. In other words, expect a SPOILER alarm after landing unless
>the=
> spoilers are locked!
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Pointer indicates zero on the ground in all modes (TE, N, RN)
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Pointer Zero screen relocated to the Vario Settings ribbon
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Volume Adjust screen changed to a range of 0 =96 25
>
>Evan, thanks....Jim
>

Evan Ludeman[_4_]
June 8th 13, 04:08 PM
Pardon my ignorance... what's a "zero reader"?

20s climb averager is most of one circle for most pilots in most conditions.. The variable climb averager that starts at zero on the climb transition and then increases with time up to 20s dates back at least as far back as the C-302. I'm sort of puzzled at the notion that someone doesn't like this.....

Mc will be (shortly) selectable on XC version through CN flight computer and remote control on stick. This does take a glance or two, but you don't have to reach for anything. There are flight computers with an auto Mc function. I'm 95% certain this isn't of interest to the CN customer base (that might be an interesting topic on the CN forum).

Deadbands work in latest releases. I have not tried all options, but "default" is a good place to start. Improvements will continue.

Documentation does have to do some catching up....

Evan Ludeman for CNi


On Saturday, June 8, 2013 9:55:32 AM UTC-4, firsys wrote:
> The great thing about software control of parameters is
>
> that one can change them; a simple program for the PC to change sime basic
>
> settings would be good.
>
> I have downloaded a recent uprgrade but there remains for me
>
> two items which need attention.
>
>
>
> 1. changing the short climb smoothing to something which
>
> better reflects a fuill circle
>
> 2. control of -ve and -ve audio thresholds to provide a dead band.
>
>
>
> Changing any setting in flight ( unless you are alone in wave)
>
> is distracting and potentialy dangerous; eg changing the
>
> MacCready value.
>
>
>
> a really valuable addition would be an output for a zero reader
>
> for cruise. ( faster slower) the sinking audio tone is inaudible
>
> behind the airflow noise. A small vertical scale meter can be installed on
>
> the instument cowl well forward.; no need to refocus.
>
> I had such an indicator on a vario-computer made for the
>
> 1970 WGC and it was very useful.
>
>
>
> These days one could have array of LED s under a cowl
>
> instead of a meter ( with intensity control), maybe blinking to register in
>
> the peripheral vision; anything to replace constantly referring to the
>
> vario.
>
>
>
> Evan now has something to work on.
>
> Please give me a zero reader output!
>
>
>
> John Firth Ottawa. ( PIK 20E)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 11:39 08 June 2013, Jim - 77 wrote:
>
> >On Friday, June 7, 2013 10:05:32 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
>
> >> Release Notes: ClearNavVario 2.1.1304 2013-06-07
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >> Minor Bug Fixes:
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >> Warnings (Gear, Spoilers) fixed to eliminate a SPOILER alarm during the
>
> >l=
>
> >anding rollout. The alarm will now reset to the normal =93before
>
> >launch=94=
>
> > mode 60 seconds after the speed has dropped below 25 knots during the
>
> >land=
>
> >ing phase. In other words, expect a SPOILER alarm after landing unless
>
> >the=
>
> > spoilers are locked!
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >> Pointer indicates zero on the ground in all modes (TE, N, RN)
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >> Pointer Zero screen relocated to the Vario Settings ribbon
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >>=20
>
> >> Volume Adjust screen changed to a range of 0 =96 25
>
> >
>
> >Evan, thanks....Jim
>
> >

Peter Purdie[_3_]
June 8th 13, 07:52 PM
I'm amazed that anyone (especially someone with John's experience) wants
something to look at in the glider (focussing near field) instead of
looking at the sky/terrain/other sailplanes.

The speed to fly audio is a zero reader, using the sense not being used for
the important stuff. All the top Worlds pilots now say it doesn't matter
much what speed you fly, but it's essential to be flying in the right bit
of sky.

And I find the CNv averager fantastic (not to mention the magic auto
cruise/climb and wind info). Two simple numbers, last circle and whole
climb. When A drops below B time to go.

At 13:55 08 June 2013, John Firth wrote:
>The great thing about software control of parameters is
>that one can change them; a simple program for the PC to change sime
basi
>settings would be good.
>I have downloaded a recent uprgrade but there remains for me
>two items which need attention.
>
>1. changing the short climb smoothing to something which
>better reflects a fuill circle
>2. control of -ve and -ve audio thresholds to provide a dead band.
>
>Changing any setting in flight ( unless you are alone in wave)
>is distracting and potentialy dangerous; eg changing the
>MacCready value.
>
> a really valuable addition would be an output for a zero reader
>for cruise. ( faster slower) the sinking audio tone is inaudible
>behind the airflow noise. A small vertical scale meter can be installed
o
>the instument cowl well forward.; no need to refocus.
>I had such an indicator on a vario-computer made for the
>1970 WGC and it was very useful.
>
>These days one could have array of LED s under a cowl
>instead of a meter ( with intensity control), maybe blinking to register
i
>the peripheral vision; anything to replace constantly referring to the
>vario.
>
>Evan now has something to work on.
>Please give me a zero reader output!
>
>John Firth Ottawa. ( PIK 20E)
>
>
>
>
>At 11:39 08 June 2013, Jim - 77 wrote:
>>On Friday, June 7, 2013 10:05:32 PM UTC-4, Evan Ludeman wrote:
>>> Release Notes: ClearNavVario 2.1.1304 2013-06-07
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Minor Bug Fixes:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Warnings (Gear, Spoilers) fixed to eliminate a SPOILER alarm during
the
>>l=
>>anding rollout. The alarm will now reset to the normal =93before
>>launch=94=
>> mode 60 seconds after the speed has dropped below 25 knots during the
>>land=
>>ing phase. In other words, expect a SPOILER alarm after landing unless
>>the=
>> spoilers are locked!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Pointer indicates zero on the ground in all modes (TE, N, RN)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Pointer Zero screen relocated to the Vario Settings ribbon
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Volume Adjust screen changed to a range of 0 =96 25
>>
>>Evan, thanks....Jim
>>
>
>

Alexander Müller
June 9th 13, 12:46 PM
Hi Evan,

can you tell us, when the XC Version will be available?

Regards
Alexander

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