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lardsoup
March 23rd 04, 10:48 PM
Just got home from spending the weekend in Houston at the Continental
Airlines Training Facility flying
the Boeing 737-300 simulator. Full motion and landing certified. My wife
bought me the ATOP
weekend for a Christmas present and man what a blast! Had the greatest
time. I would highly
recommend the ATOP weekend to anyone. Wayne Phillips is great and the
weekend flew by. I don't
think I can ever go back to playing MS Flight Sim on a the 14 inch screen
with a joystick.
Dylan Smith
March 23rd 04, 11:47 PM
In article >, lardsoup wrote:
> Just got home from spending the weekend in Houston at the Continental
> Airlines Training Facility flying
> the Boeing 737-300 simulator. Full motion and landing certified. My wife
Did it in 2000, when it was at United Airlines in Denver.
Excellent trip - well worth doing!
BTW: The whole course is less money than just buying a standalone hour
in a level D B737 sim. Excellent value for money.
--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"
Darkwing Duck \(The Duck, The Myth, The Legend\)
March 24th 04, 12:08 AM
"lardsoup" > wrote in message
...
> Just got home from spending the weekend in Houston at the Continental
> Airlines Training Facility flying
> the Boeing 737-300 simulator. Full motion and landing certified. My wife
> bought me the ATOP
> weekend for a Christmas present and man what a blast! Had the greatest
> time. I would highly
> recommend the ATOP weekend to anyone. Wayne Phillips is great and the
> weekend flew by. I don't
> think I can ever go back to playing MS Flight Sim on a the 14 inch screen
> with a joystick.
>
>
>
Any website for doing this? Always wanted too, sure beats the Hawk!
MichaelR
March 24th 04, 12:26 AM
http://www.b737.com/
It's a _lot_ of fun.
"Darkwing Duck (The Duck, The Myth, The Legend)" >
wrote in message ...
>
> "lardsoup" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just got home from spending the weekend in Houston at the Continental
> > Airlines Training Facility flying
> > the Boeing 737-300 simulator. Full motion and landing certified. My
wife
> > bought me the ATOP
> > weekend for a Christmas present and man what a blast! Had the greatest
> > time. I would highly
> > recommend the ATOP weekend to anyone. Wayne Phillips is great and the
> > weekend flew by. I don't
> > think I can ever go back to playing MS Flight Sim on a the 14 inch
screen
> > with a joystick.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Any website for doing this? Always wanted too, sure beats the Hawk!
>
>
Robert M. Gary
March 24th 04, 05:40 AM
So, how did you do? Did you crash? Did you get a V1 cut?
"lardsoup" > wrote in message >...
> Just got home from spending the weekend in Houston at the Continental
> Airlines Training Facility flying
> the Boeing 737-300 simulator. Full motion and landing certified. My wife
> bought me the ATOP
> weekend for a Christmas present and man what a blast! Had the greatest
> time. I would highly
> recommend the ATOP weekend to anyone. Wayne Phillips is great and the
> weekend flew by. I don't
> think I can ever go back to playing MS Flight Sim on a the 14 inch screen
> with a joystick.
Dylan Smith
March 24th 04, 08:29 AM
In article >, Robert M. Gary
wrote:
> So, how did you do? Did you crash? Did you get a V1 cut?
When I did it, none of our group crashed. Wayne, the instructor, had
some great stories about crashes though :-)
None of us were multi-rated at the time so he didn't give any of us a V1
cut, but we did lose engines. When it was my turn to fly, I had one
catch fire not far short of V1.
--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"
John Pelchat
March 24th 04, 06:23 PM
Dylan Smith > wrote in message >...
> In article >, Robert M. Gary
> wrote:
> > So, how did you do? Did you crash? Did you get a V1 cut?
>
> When I did it, none of our group crashed. Wayne, the instructor, had
> some great stories about crashes though :-)
>
> None of us were multi-rated at the time so he didn't give any of us a V1
> cut, but we did lose engines. When it was my turn to fly, I had one
> catch fire not far short of V1.
Sounds like an absolute gas! I guess I better start being good for Christmas.
Bule skies
John
lardsoup
March 24th 04, 10:42 PM
How did I do? Well, I didn't crash. No V1 cut, but on the first take off,
just past 80kts and approaching
V1 there was some sort of malfunction, fire or something, don't really
remember, but I got a Master
Caution light and some sort of warning horn. Figuring that can't be good I
cut the throttles, deploy the
speed brakes, stomp on the wheel brakes and come to a nice stop on the
runway. Reset.
Next we're cleared for departure again and my first officer says we're
cleared to depart. I look out the wind
screen and ask my FO to call ground and ask for taxi clearance to 28R.
Apparently some people have just
departed from the taxi way before. Reset.
OK. Real departure (or simulated, depending on how you want look at it).
Spool up, brake release, set
take off thrust, 80kts, V1, rotate, V2, WE'RE FLYING the B-737. YEEEE HAAAA!
Oh yea, positive
rate, "Gear up please". 1000msl, lower the nose, speed up, raise the flaps,
level at 3000msl, set speed to
230kts. Basically a short field takeoff procedure.
So now I flying around and Wayne is playing ATC and giving me headings. The
feelings and the visuals
are FANTASTIC. You really feel like you're flying. Left turn to 090.
Right turn to 360. Hey this isn't
too hard - what the.... Number 1 hydraulics is out. OK, number 2
hydraulics picked up the slack.
Damn, number 2 hydraulics gone. That Wayne!!! So now I flying the plane by
muscle and cable. Talk
about HEAVY control forces, but I'm doing a good job. Headings and altitude
right on. OK, enough
laughs for Wayne so my hydraulics come back on-line. Now for the approach.
ILS 28RL at SFO. Localizer alive and now, in the back of my head, my IFR
instructor's voice says, "Go
get it". Now I'm flying a B-737 like a Warrior. Hard right bank. What's
that warning now? Over bank?
Did you know that if you bank a B-737 to 40 degrees and not pay attention to
maintaining the right
amount of back pressure you can lose 500 feet in altitude really fast?
Well, you can. So now I nose up to
get back to altitude and the glide slope comes alive. Gear down, set speed
146. But here comes my IFR
instructor again, "Stay on the glide slope, no matter what". Little high,
little low, little high, little low,
flaps 15, flaps 30. OK, finally stabilized. Better later than never. 1000
feet, 500, 200, auto throttles off,
100, 50, reduce power, 30, arrest decent, 10, look to end of runway.....hold
it....squeak. Yea baby. FO
cleans up plane, take off thrust, rotate and off we go again.
Now Wayne stops the sim at 1000 feet and resets it for the approach. "Capt.
are you Instrument rated"?
"Yes". "Well, we'll see for how long". That Wayne's a funny guy. Ceiling
to 500msl and 1 mile
visibility. Not too bad. He had the higher time CFI guys down to 200 and
1/2. "Ready"? Here we go.
Now that I have the hang of it this approach goes better. Break out, "Don't
level off - ride the glide slope
down"!!! This time my IFR CFI's advice is welcome. (actually all of my IFR
CFI's adivice has been
good). Just a little right of center line and another smooth touch down. A
couple of pictures and it's over.
Now it's time to sit in the back of the sim and observe the other two guys.
About 5 minutes later I get this
feeling like I had after my first solo, where the excitement of the whole
thing finally hits and I want to
scream out a,"YYYYYYEEEEEEEE HHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I figure it might
mess up the crew
flying.
More pictures with everyone and it's off to the hotel for beers. And some
more beers. And some more
beers. This Shoney beer is GOOD.
It was a great experience. The other 6 pilots in the class were all nice.
Wayne gave us all a nice picture
of a B-737. And now I have a high altitude endorsement in the log book.
Will come in handy when I
finally save up enough money for that Malibu.
"Attention passengers this is your flight attendant speaking.. We have a
problem. The flight crew is
incapacitated from the bad fish we served at dinner. Can anyone land a
Boeing 737?" Hand goes up.......
Jay Beckman
March 24th 04, 11:42 PM
"lardsoup" > wrote in message
...
> How did I do? Well, I didn't crash. No V1 cut, but on the first take
off,
> just past 80kts and approaching
> V1 there was some sort of malfunction, fire or something, don't really
> remember, but I got a Master
> Caution light and some sort of warning horn. Figuring that can't be good
I
> cut the throttles, deploy the
> speed brakes, stomp on the wheel brakes and come to a nice stop on the
> runway. Reset.
>
<Snip Great, Great Write Up !!>
>
> "Attention passengers this is your flight attendant speaking.. We have a
> problem. The flight crew is
> incapacitated from the bad fish we served at dinner. Can anyone land a
> Boeing 737?" Hand goes up.......
>
>
>
"Surely, You Can't Be Serious...?"
Jay Beckman
Student Pilot - KCHD
7.4 Hrs ... Nowhere to go but up!
Al Gilson
March 25th 04, 02:21 AM
> >
> > "Attention passengers this is your flight attendant speaking.. We have a
> > problem. The flight crew is
> > incapacitated from the bad fish we served at dinner. Can anyone land a
> > Boeing 737?" Hand goes up.......
> >
> >
> >
>
> "Surely, You Can't Be Serious...?"
>
Oh........"Yes I am...but don't call me Shirley. But, that's not
imporatant right now!"
Hey... I landed the 777 simulator at the New York New York Hotel in Las
Vegas last month. Does that count? (And it was only $2)
Al Gilson
1964 Skyhawk
Spokane, Wa.
--
Al Gilson
Spokane, WA USA
1970 VW Convertible
1964 Cessna Skyhawk
Robert M. Gary
March 25th 04, 05:53 PM
(Al Gilson) wrote in message >...
> Hey... I landed the 777 simulator at the New York New York Hotel in Las
> Vegas last month. Does that count? (And it was only $2)
Only if it doesn't say "Microsoft" on the side. :)
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