the frost is out of the ground!

[Cub Driver]

The good news: I called the airport this morning and learned that "the
frost is out of the ground" and one of the instructors flew the Cub
yesterday.

The bad news: it is snowing, and the runway is currently white.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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[Jay Honeck]

Sorry, Dan. It's 65 and CAVU here today -- for the fourth day in a row.

Of course, I'm stuck working -- so I'm not sure what's worse!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[BTIZ]

you can't fly with hard ground?
I know it makes grassy runways soft and muddy for a while..

BT

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> The good news: I called the airport this morning and learned that "the
> frost is out of the ground" and one of the instructors flew the Cub
> yesterday.
>
> The bad news: it is snowing, and the runway is currently white.
>
> all the best -- Dan Ford
> email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
> The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
> The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
> Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

[Cub Driver]

You can't fly while it's thawing, which takes some little time.

Frozen runway good, frost-free runway good. Thawing runway bad.

>you can't fly with hard ground?
>I know it makes grassy runways soft and muddy for a while..
>
>BT
>
>"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> The good news: I called the airport this morning and learned that "the
>> frost is out of the ground" and one of the instructors flew the Cub
>> yesterday.
>>
>> The bad news: it is snowing, and the runway is currently white.
>>
>> all the best -- Dan Ford
>> email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>>
>> The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
>> The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
>> Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org
>

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

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[Nathan Young]

What is bad? Does the plane sink in more than normal? Difficult to
get traction?

Or is the issue that it tears up the runway...

-Nathan

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 05:25:44 -0400, Cub Driver
> wrote:

>You can't fly while it's thawing, which takes some little time.
>
>Frozen runway good, frost-free runway good. Thawing runway bad.
>
>>you can't fly with hard ground?
>>I know it makes grassy runways soft and muddy for a while..
>>
>>BT
>>
>>"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> The good news: I called the airport this morning and learned that "the
>>> frost is out of the ground" and one of the instructors flew the Cub
>>> yesterday.
>>>
>>> The bad news: it is snowing, and the runway is currently white.
>>>
>>> all the best -- Dan Ford
>>> email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>>>
>>> The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
>>> The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
>>> Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org
>>
>
>all the best -- Dan Ford
>email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
>The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
>The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
>Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org

[EDR]

In article >, Nathan Young
> wrote:

> What is bad? Does the plane sink in more than normal? Difficult to
> get traction?
> Or is the issue that it tears up the runway...

That little wheel in the back tends to act like a plow.

[Cub Driver]

>What is bad? Does the plane sink in more than normal? Difficult to
>get traction?
>
>Or is the issue that it tears up the runway...

When you have frozen subsoil and the sun thaws the surface, you have
slime which bespatters the airplane. Generally there are low spots,
where the water will gather and make a nice little swamp. And yes, the
turf gets destroyed in all this, and you're likely to end with wheel
ruts where you don't want them.

Right now it's looking pretty good. Lots of erosion in the middle, but
there's room to land & take off on either side of that.

Now if the wind would only die down (16 knots gusting to 23 this
afternoon).


all the best -- Dan Ford
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