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Bob Whelan[_3_]
September 6th 13, 10:50 PM
Pardon the long post, but a Really Nifty Something happened at the recent
1-26, 2013, North American Championships held at Moriarty, New Mexico,
recently. Hollywood couldn't have written a more dramatic script, and I'm
guessing some RASidents might enjoy hearing about it. I know I sure enjoyed
witnessing it from the perspective of a ground grunt (aka crewperson for a
fellow competitor in the concurrently run 13.5 Meter Region 9 Super Regional).

Contest Manager Pete Vredenburg apparently had a long-standing brainstorm
stuck in his skull, a brainstorm that being 2013 Contest Manager allowed him
to implement...for the first time ever, so far as I'm aware.

The brainstorm was to have a one-day Race of Champions held the day after the
North American Championships - often incorrectly called "the 1-26 Nationals" -
ended. Going into the 2013 contest, there were 3 former champions competing
for this year's trophy, as well as the reigning champion from the 2012 season.
In other words, going in, if all champions accepted Pete's invitation for a
"Race of Champions" there would be at least 4 competitors, with the
possibility of a 5th should a new first-time champion be crowned.

And that's what happened. Nineteen year-old Daniel Sazhin barely beat
multi-time former champ Ron Schwartz (aka "the Schwartzinator") for the 2013
traveling Champion's Trophy, in a hard-fought contest. It was "the kid's"
first championship, in his first time competing on his own; last year he and
"the Schwartzinator" won the team trophy. Scuttlebutt had it this year Ron
essentially told Daniel, "You're on your own, kid!"

Even more impressive than "the kid's" relative youth, to me anyway, was the
fact that this was Brooklyn, NY-based, Daniel's first visit to Moriarty, a
western high desert site rimmed by mountains...a site at which local knowledge
could be considered a definite asset in deciphering days and lift patterns.
His daily results gave no hint he was a newbie to the area. Ultimately he beat
"the Schwartzinator" by only 20 or so points, so he was eligible to answer
Pete's invitation to reigning and former champions for the 2013 Race of
Champions. Great Stuff even without what followed...

One final day of competition for the concurrently run Region 9 13.5 Meter
Super Regional was scheduled for the day after the 1-26 Championships ended.
After the final 13.5 meter class pilot's meeting, Pete formally introduced the
concept of this year's Race of Champions, and individually asked each eligible
pilot if he would accept the invitation to join in a Race of Champions. The
race would consist of up to 5 competitors, flying a task of their mutual
definition, winner take all, no additional scoring to be done. All five
champions accepted the call: Daniel Sazhin, Ron Schwartz, Bob von Hellens, Bob
Hurni, and Harry Baldwin.

They set themselves a long, ~155 mile speed task. Flying their (~21:1 L/D)
1-26's, every mile would be hard-earned, the more so given the monsoony
weather pattern lowering cloud bases and generating daily airmass thunderstorms.

A bit of insight into the competitors is in order here. Hollywood would do the
same, after all! Former - multi-time, I believe, but I could be wrong on this
- champion Bob von Hellens appeared to me to be perhaps in his early sixties.
Reigning champion, Bob Hurni, won his first-ever championship last year in
almost certainly his 20th-plus year of competing; I'd guess he's in his
seventies. I believe Ron Schwartz is in his early seventies, though from
looks, manner and energy level he might well be 10 to 15 years younger.
Daniel would have all the advantages (and disadvantages) of youth. Harry
Baldwin - 4-time former champion - I believe to be somewhere between 83 and
85. Quite a spread, bringing a wealth of 1-26 experience to the table.

Expressing a purely personal opinion, prior to crewing for a 13.5 meter
competitor (a nifty tale in itself!), I'd never before attended any contest
since entering soaring in 1972. Bob Hurni was the only champion I'd met prior
to this year's contest, some 20+ years ago when our soaring-related paths
happened to cross. Essentially, prior to the contest everything I knew of
these champions was what I'd gleaned in 40+ years of memorizing "Soaring"
magazine. It was a real pleasure to find them each gracious, friendly and
"merely real people" when interacting one-on-one from the perspective of an
unknown-to-them ground grunt.

Given the basis of the Race of Champions, and given what I'd learned during
the course of crewing during the concurrently-run contests, and given what I
imagined I knew of the overall situation, I hoped for a day conducive to
competitive racing, mentally wished each competitor well, and gave my nod to
Harry Baldwin as my personal/sentimental favorite, since he'd noted this would
be his last time as a competitor at the 1-26 Championships; next year he
expected to crew. "The kid;" "the old man;" "the Schwartzinator;" stooped,
quiet, friendly Bob Hurni; and reserved Bob von Hellens. None of them would be
competing in the 2013 Race of Champions had they not previously demonstrated
competitiveness, skill, tenacity and speed. It was shaping up to be something
truly dynamic and fun to peripherally experience!

And so it proved.

After my duties assisting launching my pilot and the fleet, I retired with a
handheld to the comfort of the air-conditioned retrieve desk. Monitoring 123.3
and Unicom, the airwaves were generally silent. It seemed none of the
champions wanted to give any of their competitors any possible competitive
advantage through radio use. Unless they had a competitor in sight, all their
motivation, drive and desire was drawn from within.

Several hours later, retrieve phone calls began to arrive, initially from 13.5
meter competitors. I couldn't volunteer to help on a retrieve until my pilot
was accounted for. He eventually completed the day's task (1st for the day,
his 2nd day win; woo hoo!; this retrieve stuff is simple, especially when
"your ship" is a 200-pound, 11-meter span, Sparrowhawk; I'd had to retrieve it
only on the first day). Soon after we disassembled the ship for the day and
returned to the Retrieve Office, two more or less simultaneous phone calls
arrived from 1-26-ers. "The Schwartzinator" had landed at a strip about 15
miles south of Moriarty. The landing location suggested he was on his way to
the final turnpoint. The next phone call - from Bob von Hellens - suggested
perhaps he and "the Schwartzinator" might have raced each other into the
ground; von Hellens was in a field not very far north - on course for the
final turnpoint - from Schwartz. While speculating about the state (fate?) of
the remaining 3 champions, another phone call...from "the Kid"! He's down in a
field about 6 miles *north* of Moriarty...suggesting he was on the leg to or
from the final turn, but farther along than Ron or Bob von H.

My pilot and I volunteer to retrieve "the Kid," competing without a crew. As
we're leaving the field, we see Bob Hurni's ship in the landing pattern. Has
he completed the course? Or has he abandoned the effort? All we can surmise as
we leave the field is "the Kid" almost certainly has the greatest distance of
the landouts, Bob H may or may not be in the lead, and Harry Baldwin's
whereabouts are completely unknown to us (or anyone else!). There's hope for
my sentimental favorite!!!

We retrieve Daniel.

Upon our return we learn Bob Hurni abandoned the task. Where does that put him
relative to "the Kid," who in fact has flown farther than Ron S. and Bob von
H? Every 13.5 meter competitor is accounted for. Harry Baldwin is still
unaccounted for. The day is getting late. Where is Harry Baldwin?!? He's had
at least two early landouts in the North American Championships, and was not a
factor in this year's contest.

Really late in the soaring day comes a phone call. It's Harry Baldwin. He's
landed out off-airport, maybe 3/8 of a mile from the threshold of runway 18.
He says lots of bodies would be helpful on the retrieve.

He reports he (almost!) completed the course. Harry has won the Race of
Champions!!! Volunteers practically stampede to help with the retrieve. We
figure we would be in the way, and opt for dinner (most sit-down restaurants
close early in Moriarty). We can only imagine Harry's state of mind and tale.

Next Morning - Harry Baldwin stayed at the same motel as my pilot and me. The
day after the Race of Champions, we three were in the breakfast nook before
going to the airfield. We congratulate him. A big grin gradually appears on
his face; it goes practically halfway around. He volunteers that when Pete had
preliminarily displayed the trophy that would go to the Champion of Champions,
he decided that instant he REALLY wanted that trophy. He knew he couldn't win
the overall contest. He knew this would be his last hurrah. He said he'd never
seen a more attractive trophy. (It was a hand-carved eagle, entirely of New
Mexican origin...wood, design, artist, paints, etc. There will never be
another like it.) He said he had no idea what any of his competitors were
experiencing on course. He knew only that he was still aloft, and thus still
had a chance.

At the awards ceremony, he added that he was going to do a straight in to the
ground, options permitting, but he was NOT going to quit. He intended to leave
nothing "in the cockpit" so to speak. He was trying to make the field. Runway
18 has some powerlines on its northern approach, and a barbed-wire fence not
far beyond. He figured he could safely make it UNDER the powerlines...but
wasn't certain he could make it OVER the fence. He landed. He said it was the
roughest 1-26 landing he'd ever made. And that's saying something from a man
who probably has well over a hundred off-field landings in a 1-26, many of
them on dirt roads.

He said that after all the banging and bumping stopped, and after all the dust
had cleared away, and after he could see his flight computer, it showed he'd
come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the 1-26 rules he would
be scored with speed points!! He said he didn't care at that moment if he had
lost, he knew he'd done his and the day's best. That's what competition - and
life - is all about. Doing your best.

Harry Baldwin. Champion of champions.

Papa3[_2_]
September 7th 13, 01:16 AM
Thanks Bob! Simply wonderful story.

On Friday, September 6, 2013 5:50:16 PM UTC-4, Bob Whelan wrote:
> Pardon the long post, but a Really Nifty Something happened at the recent
>
> 1-26, 2013, North American Championships held at Moriarty, New Mexico,
>
> recently. Hollywood couldn't have written a more dramatic script, and I'm
>
> guessing some RASidents might enjoy hearing about it. I know I sure enjoyed
>
> witnessing it from the perspective of a ground grunt (aka crewperson for a
>
> fellow competitor in the concurrently run 13.5 Meter Region 9 Super Regional).
>
>
>
> Contest Manager Pete Vredenburg apparently had a long-standing brainstorm
>
> stuck in his skull, a brainstorm that being 2013 Contest Manager allowed him
>
> to implement...for the first time ever, so far as I'm aware.
>
>
>
> The brainstorm was to have a one-day Race of Champions held the day after the
>
> North American Championships - often incorrectly called "the 1-26 Nationals" -
>
> ended. Going into the 2013 contest, there were 3 former champions competing
>
> for this year's trophy, as well as the reigning champion from the 2012 season.
>
> In other words, going in, if all champions accepted Pete's invitation for a
>
> "Race of Champions" there would be at least 4 competitors, with the
>
> possibility of a 5th should a new first-time champion be crowned.
>
>
>
> And that's what happened. Nineteen year-old Daniel Sazhin barely beat
>
> multi-time former champ Ron Schwartz (aka "the Schwartzinator") for the 2013
>
> traveling Champion's Trophy, in a hard-fought contest. It was "the kid's"
>
> first championship, in his first time competing on his own; last year he and
>
> "the Schwartzinator" won the team trophy. Scuttlebutt had it this year Ron
>
> essentially told Daniel, "You're on your own, kid!"
>
>
>
> Even more impressive than "the kid's" relative youth, to me anyway, was the
>
> fact that this was Brooklyn, NY-based, Daniel's first visit to Moriarty, a
>
> western high desert site rimmed by mountains...a site at which local knowledge
>
> could be considered a definite asset in deciphering days and lift patterns.
>
> His daily results gave no hint he was a newbie to the area. Ultimately he beat
>
> "the Schwartzinator" by only 20 or so points, so he was eligible to answer
>
> Pete's invitation to reigning and former champions for the 2013 Race of
>
> Champions. Great Stuff even without what followed...
>
>
>
> One final day of competition for the concurrently run Region 9 13.5 Meter
>
> Super Regional was scheduled for the day after the 1-26 Championships ended.
>
> After the final 13.5 meter class pilot's meeting, Pete formally introduced the
>
> concept of this year's Race of Champions, and individually asked each eligible
>
> pilot if he would accept the invitation to join in a Race of Champions. The
>
> race would consist of up to 5 competitors, flying a task of their mutual
>
> definition, winner take all, no additional scoring to be done. All five
>
> champions accepted the call: Daniel Sazhin, Ron Schwartz, Bob von Hellens, Bob
>
> Hurni, and Harry Baldwin.
>
>
>
> They set themselves a long, ~155 mile speed task. Flying their (~21:1 L/D)
>
> 1-26's, every mile would be hard-earned, the more so given the monsoony
>
> weather pattern lowering cloud bases and generating daily airmass thunderstorms.
>
>
>
> A bit of insight into the competitors is in order here. Hollywood would do the
>
> same, after all! Former - multi-time, I believe, but I could be wrong on this
>
> - champion Bob von Hellens appeared to me to be perhaps in his early sixties.
>
> Reigning champion, Bob Hurni, won his first-ever championship last year in
>
> almost certainly his 20th-plus year of competing; I'd guess he's in his
>
> seventies. I believe Ron Schwartz is in his early seventies, though from
>
> looks, manner and energy level he might well be 10 to 15 years younger.
>
> Daniel would have all the advantages (and disadvantages) of youth. Harry
>
> Baldwin - 4-time former champion - I believe to be somewhere between 83 and
>
> 85. Quite a spread, bringing a wealth of 1-26 experience to the table.
>
>
>
> Expressing a purely personal opinion, prior to crewing for a 13.5 meter
>
> competitor (a nifty tale in itself!), I'd never before attended any contest
>
> since entering soaring in 1972. Bob Hurni was the only champion I'd met prior
>
> to this year's contest, some 20+ years ago when our soaring-related paths
>
> happened to cross. Essentially, prior to the contest everything I knew of
>
> these champions was what I'd gleaned in 40+ years of memorizing "Soaring"
>
> magazine. It was a real pleasure to find them each gracious, friendly and
>
> "merely real people" when interacting one-on-one from the perspective of an
>
> unknown-to-them ground grunt.
>
>
>
> Given the basis of the Race of Champions, and given what I'd learned during
>
> the course of crewing during the concurrently-run contests, and given what I
>
> imagined I knew of the overall situation, I hoped for a day conducive to
>
> competitive racing, mentally wished each competitor well, and gave my nod to
>
> Harry Baldwin as my personal/sentimental favorite, since he'd noted this would
>
> be his last time as a competitor at the 1-26 Championships; next year he
>
> expected to crew. "The kid;" "the old man;" "the Schwartzinator;" stooped,
>
> quiet, friendly Bob Hurni; and reserved Bob von Hellens. None of them would be
>
> competing in the 2013 Race of Champions had they not previously demonstrated
>
> competitiveness, skill, tenacity and speed. It was shaping up to be something
>
> truly dynamic and fun to peripherally experience!
>
>
>
> And so it proved.
>
>
>
> After my duties assisting launching my pilot and the fleet, I retired with a
>
> handheld to the comfort of the air-conditioned retrieve desk. Monitoring 123.3
>
> and Unicom, the airwaves were generally silent. It seemed none of the
>
> champions wanted to give any of their competitors any possible competitive
>
> advantage through radio use. Unless they had a competitor in sight, all their
>
> motivation, drive and desire was drawn from within.
>
>
>
> Several hours later, retrieve phone calls began to arrive, initially from 13.5
>
> meter competitors. I couldn't volunteer to help on a retrieve until my pilot
>
> was accounted for. He eventually completed the day's task (1st for the day,
>
> his 2nd day win; woo hoo!; this retrieve stuff is simple, especially when
>
> "your ship" is a 200-pound, 11-meter span, Sparrowhawk; I'd had to retrieve it
>
> only on the first day). Soon after we disassembled the ship for the day and
>
> returned to the Retrieve Office, two more or less simultaneous phone calls
>
> arrived from 1-26-ers. "The Schwartzinator" had landed at a strip about 15
>
> miles south of Moriarty. The landing location suggested he was on his way to
>
> the final turnpoint. The next phone call - from Bob von Hellens - suggested
>
> perhaps he and "the Schwartzinator" might have raced each other into the
>
> ground; von Hellens was in a field not very far north - on course for the
>
> final turnpoint - from Schwartz. While speculating about the state (fate?) of
>
> the remaining 3 champions, another phone call...from "the Kid"! He's down in a
>
> field about 6 miles *north* of Moriarty...suggesting he was on the leg to or
>
> from the final turn, but farther along than Ron or Bob von H.
>
>
>
> My pilot and I volunteer to retrieve "the Kid," competing without a crew. As
>
> we're leaving the field, we see Bob Hurni's ship in the landing pattern. Has
>
> he completed the course? Or has he abandoned the effort? All we can surmise as
>
> we leave the field is "the Kid" almost certainly has the greatest distance of
>
> the landouts, Bob H may or may not be in the lead, and Harry Baldwin's
>
> whereabouts are completely unknown to us (or anyone else!). There's hope for
>
> my sentimental favorite!!!
>
>
>
> We retrieve Daniel.
>
>
>
> Upon our return we learn Bob Hurni abandoned the task. Where does that put him
>
> relative to "the Kid," who in fact has flown farther than Ron S. and Bob von
>
> H? Every 13.5 meter competitor is accounted for. Harry Baldwin is still
>
> unaccounted for. The day is getting late. Where is Harry Baldwin?!? He's had
>
> at least two early landouts in the North American Championships, and was not a
>
> factor in this year's contest.
>
>
>
> Really late in the soaring day comes a phone call. It's Harry Baldwin. He's
>
> landed out off-airport, maybe 3/8 of a mile from the threshold of runway 18.
>
> He says lots of bodies would be helpful on the retrieve.
>
>
>
> He reports he (almost!) completed the course. Harry has won the Race of
>
> Champions!!! Volunteers practically stampede to help with the retrieve. We
>
> figure we would be in the way, and opt for dinner (most sit-down restaurants
>
> close early in Moriarty). We can only imagine Harry's state of mind and tale.
>
>
>
> Next Morning - Harry Baldwin stayed at the same motel as my pilot and me. The
>
> day after the Race of Champions, we three were in the breakfast nook before
>
> going to the airfield. We congratulate him. A big grin gradually appears on
>
> his face; it goes practically halfway around. He volunteers that when Pete had
>
> preliminarily displayed the trophy that would go to the Champion of Champions,
>
> he decided that instant he REALLY wanted that trophy. He knew he couldn't win
>
> the overall contest. He knew this would be his last hurrah. He said he'd never
>
> seen a more attractive trophy. (It was a hand-carved eagle, entirely of New
>
> Mexican origin...wood, design, artist, paints, etc. There will never be
>
> another like it.) He said he had no idea what any of his competitors were
>
> experiencing on course. He knew only that he was still aloft, and thus still
>
> had a chance.
>
>
>
> At the awards ceremony, he added that he was going to do a straight in to the
>
> ground, options permitting, but he was NOT going to quit. He intended to leave
>
> nothing "in the cockpit" so to speak. He was trying to make the field. Runway
>
> 18 has some powerlines on its northern approach, and a barbed-wire fence not
>
> far beyond. He figured he could safely make it UNDER the powerlines...but
>
> wasn't certain he could make it OVER the fence. He landed. He said it was the
>
> roughest 1-26 landing he'd ever made. And that's saying something from a man
>
> who probably has well over a hundred off-field landings in a 1-26, many of
>
> them on dirt roads.
>
>
>
> He said that after all the banging and bumping stopped, and after all the dust
>
> had cleared away, and after he could see his flight computer, it showed he'd
>
> come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the 1-26 rules he would
>
> be scored with speed points!! He said he didn't care at that moment if he had
>
> lost, he knew he'd done his and the day's best. That's what competition - and
>
> life - is all about. Doing your best.
>
>
>
> Harry Baldwin. Champion of champions.

Dan Marotta
September 7th 13, 01:47 AM
Terrific story!

.... and nice meeting you, Bob, in the Sundance hangar.


"Papa3" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Bob! Simply wonderful story.
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2013 5:50:16 PM UTC-4, Bob Whelan wrote:
>> Pardon the long post, but a Really Nifty Something happened at the recent
>>
>> 1-26, 2013, North American Championships held at Moriarty, New Mexico,
>>
>> recently. Hollywood couldn't have written a more dramatic script, and I'm
>>
>> guessing some RASidents might enjoy hearing about it. I know I sure
>> enjoyed
>>
>> witnessing it from the perspective of a ground grunt (aka crewperson for
>> a
>>
>> fellow competitor in the concurrently run 13.5 Meter Region 9 Super
>> Regional).
>>
>>
>>
>> Contest Manager Pete Vredenburg apparently had a long-standing brainstorm
>>
>> stuck in his skull, a brainstorm that being 2013 Contest Manager allowed
>> him
>>
>> to implement...for the first time ever, so far as I'm aware.
>>
>>
>>
>> The brainstorm was to have a one-day Race of Champions held the day after
>> the
>>
>> North American Championships - often incorrectly called "the 1-26
>> Nationals" -
>>
>> ended. Going into the 2013 contest, there were 3 former champions
>> competing
>>
>> for this year's trophy, as well as the reigning champion from the 2012
>> season.
>>
>> In other words, going in, if all champions accepted Pete's invitation for
>> a
>>
>> "Race of Champions" there would be at least 4 competitors, with the
>>
>> possibility of a 5th should a new first-time champion be crowned.
>>
>>
>>
>> And that's what happened. Nineteen year-old Daniel Sazhin barely beat
>>
>> multi-time former champ Ron Schwartz (aka "the Schwartzinator") for the
>> 2013
>>
>> traveling Champion's Trophy, in a hard-fought contest. It was "the kid's"
>>
>> first championship, in his first time competing on his own; last year he
>> and
>>
>> "the Schwartzinator" won the team trophy. Scuttlebutt had it this year
>> Ron
>>
>> essentially told Daniel, "You're on your own, kid!"
>>
>>
>>
>> Even more impressive than "the kid's" relative youth, to me anyway, was
>> the
>>
>> fact that this was Brooklyn, NY-based, Daniel's first visit to Moriarty,
>> a
>>
>> western high desert site rimmed by mountains...a site at which local
>> knowledge
>>
>> could be considered a definite asset in deciphering days and lift
>> patterns.
>>
>> His daily results gave no hint he was a newbie to the area. Ultimately he
>> beat
>>
>> "the Schwartzinator" by only 20 or so points, so he was eligible to
>> answer
>>
>> Pete's invitation to reigning and former champions for the 2013 Race of
>>
>> Champions. Great Stuff even without what followed...
>>
>>
>>
>> One final day of competition for the concurrently run Region 9 13.5 Meter
>>
>> Super Regional was scheduled for the day after the 1-26 Championships
>> ended.
>>
>> After the final 13.5 meter class pilot's meeting, Pete formally
>> introduced the
>>
>> concept of this year's Race of Champions, and individually asked each
>> eligible
>>
>> pilot if he would accept the invitation to join in a Race of Champions.
>> The
>>
>> race would consist of up to 5 competitors, flying a task of their mutual
>>
>> definition, winner take all, no additional scoring to be done. All five
>>
>> champions accepted the call: Daniel Sazhin, Ron Schwartz, Bob von
>> Hellens, Bob
>>
>> Hurni, and Harry Baldwin.
>>
>>
>>
>> They set themselves a long, ~155 mile speed task. Flying their (~21:1
>> L/D)
>>
>> 1-26's, every mile would be hard-earned, the more so given the monsoony
>>
>> weather pattern lowering cloud bases and generating daily airmass
>> thunderstorms.
>>
>>
>>
>> A bit of insight into the competitors is in order here. Hollywood would
>> do the
>>
>> same, after all! Former - multi-time, I believe, but I could be wrong on
>> this
>>
>> - champion Bob von Hellens appeared to me to be perhaps in his early
>> sixties.
>>
>> Reigning champion, Bob Hurni, won his first-ever championship last year
>> in
>>
>> almost certainly his 20th-plus year of competing; I'd guess he's in his
>>
>> seventies. I believe Ron Schwartz is in his early seventies, though from
>>
>> looks, manner and energy level he might well be 10 to 15 years younger.
>>
>> Daniel would have all the advantages (and disadvantages) of youth. Harry
>>
>> Baldwin - 4-time former champion - I believe to be somewhere between 83
>> and
>>
>> 85. Quite a spread, bringing a wealth of 1-26 experience to the table.
>>
>>
>>
>> Expressing a purely personal opinion, prior to crewing for a 13.5 meter
>>
>> competitor (a nifty tale in itself!), I'd never before attended any
>> contest
>>
>> since entering soaring in 1972. Bob Hurni was the only champion I'd met
>> prior
>>
>> to this year's contest, some 20+ years ago when our soaring-related paths
>>
>> happened to cross. Essentially, prior to the contest everything I knew of
>>
>> these champions was what I'd gleaned in 40+ years of memorizing "Soaring"
>>
>> magazine. It was a real pleasure to find them each gracious, friendly and
>>
>> "merely real people" when interacting one-on-one from the perspective of
>> an
>>
>> unknown-to-them ground grunt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Given the basis of the Race of Champions, and given what I'd learned
>> during
>>
>> the course of crewing during the concurrently-run contests, and given
>> what I
>>
>> imagined I knew of the overall situation, I hoped for a day conducive to
>>
>> competitive racing, mentally wished each competitor well, and gave my nod
>> to
>>
>> Harry Baldwin as my personal/sentimental favorite, since he'd noted this
>> would
>>
>> be his last time as a competitor at the 1-26 Championships; next year he
>>
>> expected to crew. "The kid;" "the old man;" "the Schwartzinator;"
>> stooped,
>>
>> quiet, friendly Bob Hurni; and reserved Bob von Hellens. None of them
>> would be
>>
>> competing in the 2013 Race of Champions had they not previously
>> demonstrated
>>
>> competitiveness, skill, tenacity and speed. It was shaping up to be
>> something
>>
>> truly dynamic and fun to peripherally experience!
>>
>>
>>
>> And so it proved.
>>
>>
>>
>> After my duties assisting launching my pilot and the fleet, I retired
>> with a
>>
>> handheld to the comfort of the air-conditioned retrieve desk. Monitoring
>> 123.3
>>
>> and Unicom, the airwaves were generally silent. It seemed none of the
>>
>> champions wanted to give any of their competitors any possible
>> competitive
>>
>> advantage through radio use. Unless they had a competitor in sight, all
>> their
>>
>> motivation, drive and desire was drawn from within.
>>
>>
>>
>> Several hours later, retrieve phone calls began to arrive, initially from
>> 13.5
>>
>> meter competitors. I couldn't volunteer to help on a retrieve until my
>> pilot
>>
>> was accounted for. He eventually completed the day's task (1st for the
>> day,
>>
>> his 2nd day win; woo hoo!; this retrieve stuff is simple, especially when
>>
>> "your ship" is a 200-pound, 11-meter span, Sparrowhawk; I'd had to
>> retrieve it
>>
>> only on the first day). Soon after we disassembled the ship for the day
>> and
>>
>> returned to the Retrieve Office, two more or less simultaneous phone
>> calls
>>
>> arrived from 1-26-ers. "The Schwartzinator" had landed at a strip about
>> 15
>>
>> miles south of Moriarty. The landing location suggested he was on his way
>> to
>>
>> the final turnpoint. The next phone call - from Bob von Hellens -
>> suggested
>>
>> perhaps he and "the Schwartzinator" might have raced each other into the
>>
>> ground; von Hellens was in a field not very far north - on course for the
>>
>> final turnpoint - from Schwartz. While speculating about the state
>> (fate?) of
>>
>> the remaining 3 champions, another phone call...from "the Kid"! He's down
>> in a
>>
>> field about 6 miles *north* of Moriarty...suggesting he was on the leg to
>> or
>>
>> from the final turn, but farther along than Ron or Bob von H.
>>
>>
>>
>> My pilot and I volunteer to retrieve "the Kid," competing without a crew.
>> As
>>
>> we're leaving the field, we see Bob Hurni's ship in the landing pattern.
>> Has
>>
>> he completed the course? Or has he abandoned the effort? All we can
>> surmise as
>>
>> we leave the field is "the Kid" almost certainly has the greatest
>> distance of
>>
>> the landouts, Bob H may or may not be in the lead, and Harry Baldwin's
>>
>> whereabouts are completely unknown to us (or anyone else!). There's hope
>> for
>>
>> my sentimental favorite!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> We retrieve Daniel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Upon our return we learn Bob Hurni abandoned the task. Where does that
>> put him
>>
>> relative to "the Kid," who in fact has flown farther than Ron S. and Bob
>> von
>>
>> H? Every 13.5 meter competitor is accounted for. Harry Baldwin is still
>>
>> unaccounted for. The day is getting late. Where is Harry Baldwin?!? He's
>> had
>>
>> at least two early landouts in the North American Championships, and was
>> not a
>>
>> factor in this year's contest.
>>
>>
>>
>> Really late in the soaring day comes a phone call. It's Harry Baldwin.
>> He's
>>
>> landed out off-airport, maybe 3/8 of a mile from the threshold of runway
>> 18.
>>
>> He says lots of bodies would be helpful on the retrieve.
>>
>>
>>
>> He reports he (almost!) completed the course. Harry has won the Race of
>>
>> Champions!!! Volunteers practically stampede to help with the retrieve.
>> We
>>
>> figure we would be in the way, and opt for dinner (most sit-down
>> restaurants
>>
>> close early in Moriarty). We can only imagine Harry's state of mind and
>> tale.
>>
>>
>>
>> Next Morning - Harry Baldwin stayed at the same motel as my pilot and me.
>> The
>>
>> day after the Race of Champions, we three were in the breakfast nook
>> before
>>
>> going to the airfield. We congratulate him. A big grin gradually appears
>> on
>>
>> his face; it goes practically halfway around. He volunteers that when
>> Pete had
>>
>> preliminarily displayed the trophy that would go to the Champion of
>> Champions,
>>
>> he decided that instant he REALLY wanted that trophy. He knew he couldn't
>> win
>>
>> the overall contest. He knew this would be his last hurrah. He said he'd
>> never
>>
>> seen a more attractive trophy. (It was a hand-carved eagle, entirely of
>> New
>>
>> Mexican origin...wood, design, artist, paints, etc. There will never be
>>
>> another like it.) He said he had no idea what any of his competitors were
>>
>> experiencing on course. He knew only that he was still aloft, and thus
>> still
>>
>> had a chance.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the awards ceremony, he added that he was going to do a straight in to
>> the
>>
>> ground, options permitting, but he was NOT going to quit. He intended to
>> leave
>>
>> nothing "in the cockpit" so to speak. He was trying to make the field.
>> Runway
>>
>> 18 has some powerlines on its northern approach, and a barbed-wire fence
>> not
>>
>> far beyond. He figured he could safely make it UNDER the powerlines...but
>>
>> wasn't certain he could make it OVER the fence. He landed. He said it was
>> the
>>
>> roughest 1-26 landing he'd ever made. And that's saying something from a
>> man
>>
>> who probably has well over a hundred off-field landings in a 1-26, many
>> of
>>
>> them on dirt roads.
>>
>>
>>
>> He said that after all the banging and bumping stopped, and after all the
>> dust
>>
>> had cleared away, and after he could see his flight computer, it showed
>> he'd
>>
>> come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the 1-26 rules he
>> would
>>
>> be scored with speed points!! He said he didn't care at that moment if he
>> had
>>
>> lost, he knew he'd done his and the day's best. That's what competition -
>> and
>>
>> life - is all about. Doing your best.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harry Baldwin. Champion of champions.
>

Brad Alston
September 7th 13, 03:57 AM
;844464']Thanks Bob! Simply wonderful story.



Here here! Well done Bob. I hope someone picks up the movie right! And a hearty congratulations to Mr. Baldwin for his performance...and all the other champions for providing a wonderfully dramatic and exciting episode.

Brad.

Tony[_5_]
September 7th 13, 05:04 AM
Excellent reporting! Almost as good as actually being there in person! And kudos and bravo! again to Harry Baldwin! A very inspiring flight.

September 8th 13, 02:11 PM
This is a beautiful story..right up to the last two paragraphs. Read those again, carefully

"At the awards ceremony, he added that he was going to do a straight in to the
ground, options permitting, but he was NOT going to quit. He intended to leave
nothing "in the cockpit" so to speak. He was trying to make the field. Runway
18 has some powerlines on its northern approach, and a barbed-wire fence not
far beyond. He figured he could safely make it UNDER the powerlines...but
wasn't certain he could make it OVER the fence. He landed. He said it was the
roughest 1-26 landing he'd ever made. And that's saying something from a man
who probably has well over a hundred off-field landings in a 1-26, many of
them on dirt roads.

He said that after all the banging and bumping stopped, and after all the dust
had cleared away, and after he could see his flight computer, it showed he'd
come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the 1-26 rules he would
be scored with speed points!! He said he didn't care at that moment if he had
lost, he knew he'd done his and the day's best. That's what competition - and
life - is all about. Doing your best.

Harry Baldwin. Champion of champions."


Really now? I spent most of this season enduring tongue lashings about our finish rules. "No sane pilot will push a final glide, just because of some point system," they said. "Experienced pilots will always give up and do a proper landout with at least 500 feet left" they said. "Pilots aren't doing stupid things just because of rules" they said.

Then read this story. You can't ask for more experience!

"he was going to do a straight in to the ground"

I.e., Not only did he get tempted at the last moment, he planned to do it!

"He figured he could safely make it UNDER the powerlines...but wasn't certain he could make it OVER the fence."

"showed he'd come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the 1-26 rules he would be scored with speed points!!"

You can't ask for a clearer example of finish rules inducing amazingly stupid behavior.

For let's call it what it is, this is amazingly stupid behavior. A straight in approach, to a high desert site, planned under power lines with a barbed wire fence approaching? Even at 20:1 it's pretty hard to see what's ahead..

What would you all have been saying if this had gone badly, as it had every right to do, and Harry hit one of those wires, or there had been a boulder, unseen from a straight in glide, on his landing. Would the story still have been "there goes a top pilot, doing just the right thing, a victim of unfortunate and unforeseeable circumstance?"

Or would the story have been the usual chorus of denial: "Well, he must have been dehydrated." "You know, pilots that age..." "What a bozo maneuver. Surely great pilots like me would never do such a thing." "Well, whatever was on his mind, the 126 rules that give speed points for a landout a mile from the airport can't have been it." Fortunately he survived to tell us that was exactly what was on his mind.

But most of all, this isn't about Harry. We've all done dumb things. And sometimes been silly enough to boast of them at the pilot's meeting the next day. This is about the rest of us. We glorify this??? This is the story we want to pass on to our young impressionable pilots? "Wow, this is how real champions do it?" "Keep this story in mind when you're making tough in flight decisions?"

No, I'm sorry. In this case, not champion of champions. In this case, one really lucky guy, who did something amazingly dumb, and thanks to the low energy of the 1-26 got away with it.

Dear Danny and other promising new contest pilots: This is NOT how contest flying is done. When the rules of your contest allow you to earn hundreds of points and win the day by doing something incredibly dumb, like a Mc 0 glide straight in, under a powerline, heading toward a barbed wire fence, to roll just into a finish cylinder dodging mesquite and boulders, you do NOT do it. You land out, from a comfortable altitude, over a field you can see, and live to fly again next year. Don't thermal at 200 feet either. We want you to still be flying when you're 84.

John Cochrane BB

Matt Herron Jr.
September 8th 13, 05:41 PM
Well said John. I am glad Harry survived, and glad it's his last competition. Neither hope, nor dogged fatalism, are good strategies for survival.

It would be interesting to compare the traces of all five pilots.

BTW, I don't know the rules that well, but why do you get points for landing within a mile of an airport, rather than AT the airport?

Matt

September 8th 13, 06:45 PM
>
> BTW, I don't know the rules that well, but why do you get points for landing within a mile of an airport, rather than AT the airport?
>
> Matt

1-26 contests fly by their own set of rules.

John Cochrane

BobW
September 8th 13, 06:50 PM
On 9/8/2013 7:11 AM, wrote:
>
> This is a beautiful story..right up to the last two paragraphs. Read those
> again, carefully
>
> "At the awards ceremony, he added that he was going to do a straight in to
> the ground, options permitting, but he was NOT going to quit. He intended
> to leave nothing "in the cockpit" so to speak. He was trying to make the
> field. Runway 18 has some powerlines on its northern approach, and a
> barbed-wire fence not far beyond. He figured he could safely make it UNDER
> the powerlines...but wasn't certain he could make it OVER the fence. He
> landed. He said it was the roughest 1-26 landing he'd ever made. And that's
> saying something from a man who probably has well over a hundred off-field
> landings in a 1-26, many of them on dirt roads.
>
> He said that after all the banging and bumping stopped, and after all the
> dust had cleared away, and after he could see his flight computer, it
> showed he'd come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the 1-26
> rules he would be scored with speed points!! He said he didn't care at that
> moment if he had lost, he knew he'd done his and the day's best. That's
> what competition - and life - is all about. Doing your best.
>
> Harry Baldwin. Champion of champions."
>
>
> Really now? I spent most of this season enduring tongue lashings about our
> finish rules. "No sane pilot will push a final glide, just because of some
> point system," they said. "Experienced pilots will always give up and do a
> proper landout with at least 500 feet left" they said. "Pilots aren't doing
> stupid things just because of rules" they said.
>
> Then read this story. You can't ask for more experience!
>
> "he was going to do a straight in to the ground"
>
> I.e., Not only did he get tempted at the last moment, he planned to do it!
>
> "He figured he could safely make it UNDER the powerlines...but wasn't
> certain he could make it OVER the fence."
>
> "showed he'd come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the
> 1-26 rules he would be scored with speed points!!"
>
> You can't ask for a clearer example of finish rules inducing amazingly
> stupid behavior.
>
> For let's call it what it is, this is amazingly stupid behavior. A straight
> in approach, to a high desert site, planned under power lines with a barbed
> wire fence approaching? Even at 20:1 it's pretty hard to see what's ahead.
>
> What would you all have been saying if this had gone badly, as it had every
> right to do, and Harry hit one of those wires, or there had been a boulder,
> unseen from a straight in glide, on his landing. Would the story still have
> been "there goes a top pilot, doing just the right thing, a victim of
> unfortunate and unforeseeable circumstance?"
>
> Or would the story have been the usual chorus of denial: "Well, he must
> have been dehydrated." "You know, pilots that age..." "What a bozo
> maneuver. Surely great pilots like me would never do such a thing." "Well,
> whatever was on his mind, the 126 rules that give speed points for a
> landout a mile from the airport can't have been it." Fortunately he
> survived to tell us that was exactly what was on his mind.
>
> But most of all, this isn't about Harry. We've all done dumb things. And
> sometimes been silly enough to boast of them at the pilot's meeting the
> next day. This is about the rest of us. We glorify this??? This is the
> story we want to pass on to our young impressionable pilots? "Wow, this is
> how real champions do it?" "Keep this story in mind when you're making
> tough in flight decisions?"
>
> No, I'm sorry. In this case, not champion of champions. In this case, one
> really lucky guy, who did something amazingly dumb, and thanks to the low
> energy of the 1-26 got away with it.
>
> Dear Danny and other promising new contest pilots: This is NOT how contest
> flying is done. When the rules of your contest allow you to earn hundreds
> of points and win the day by doing something incredibly dumb, like a Mc 0
> glide straight in, under a powerline, heading toward a barbed wire fence,
> to roll just into a finish cylinder dodging mesquite and boulders, you do
> NOT do it. You land out, from a comfortable altitude, over a field you can
> see, and live to fly again next year. Don't thermal at 200 feet either. We
> want you to still be flying when you're 84.
>
> John Cochrane BB
>

I knew "this was coming" when I wrote the piece. Every sentence, tale,
adventure has at least as many perspectives as there are listeners...and in my
case, I bring multiple perspectives to my assessments of anything. I doubt the
"multiple perspectives" thing is peculiar only to me.

I also have no problem reconciling "perspective conflict"...at least my own.
Those things noted...

Without being tedious covering them individually, John Cochrane's points
concerning the risks Harry Baldwin was prepared to take (and did, up to a very
low margin point), are spot on. However, that does NOT mean what Harry did was
outright dumb. Imponderables matter, a whole lot when lives are at stake. Few
parents would let their 16-year-old boy drive the family Ferrari on the race
track the day after their baby is licensed (meaning the kid, not the car :-)),
while many would have far fewer qualms about letting (say) Helio Castroneves
or Sebastian Vettel do so.

Experience, judgment, currency, etc., etc., etc., matter. A lot. If anyone
wishes to snipe about Harry's age, let's not stop there, let's go right to the
question of "self-certification." Who doesn't know people in (say) their 50's
who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car for mental and/or physical reasons?
There's only a VERY loose correlation between chronological age and
mental/physical competency.

Paul Newman (remember him?) raced (high-powered) cars at the national level
(winning SCCA national championships well into his later 60's as I recall).
Harry Baldwin is a vastly experienced 1-26 pilot: cross-country, national
level competitions, off-field landings, the Moriarty area. In the two weeks
prior to the Race of Champions, his local knowledge of the field and its
approaches had been daily updated and honed. So far as I can tell from
"Soaring" magazine, he's lived and flown his entire adult life from a base in
San Diego, which is surrounded by far harsher desert than surrounds Moriarty.
The man surely should well know the desert landing risks he was prepared to
accept, and the margins he was prepared to - and did - thin.

So John Cochrane and I seem to be in complete agreement that, "[...] most of
all, this isn't about Harry."

Where I begin to quibble with John are some aspects of succeeding statements.
"We've all done dumb things. And sometimes been silly enough to boast of them
at the pilot's meeting the next day..."

Firstly, What Harry chose to do is not definitionally dumb..."dumb" as in the
outcome was predictably/almost certainly/likely doomed to end poorly. That's
how I define dumb. What Harry chose to do WAS higher risk than entering a
pattern from (say) 800' agl. And it (arguably) got higher risk as he
descended, though the "obvious to the rest of us pilots" risks are closely
coupled to the landing options toward which he was descending. Having "camp
flown" gliders from Moriarty myself between the early 1990s and 2009, and
having XC soared "out west" from 1974, I always actively strove to never make
a prairie landing (which option was a large portion of Harry's options as he
descended below 800' agl). That's just me. I've probably retrieved
double-digits' worth of folks from western prairies and grasslands, ship types
ranging from 1-26s to racing glass. Fortunately no ship damage on any of my
retrieves...but *I* was never comfortable with the risks. Some of the pilots
I've retrieved I considered good candidates for breaking their glass ships
(and some of those subsequently did, despite whatever input they received from
reading, fellow pilots, me, etc.). Others I understood their landing risk
tolerance simply differed from mine, though they DID understand the risks
associated with prairie landings. My working guess is Harry Baldwin easily
falls into the second category, and, the 1-26 for many reasons is far more
resistant to OFL damage than many newer ships.

Secondly, to me there's a HUGE difference between boasting and simply
answering a question. I got zero sense Harry was boasting when he synopsized
for me and my pilot in the breakfast nook prior to that morning's group
gathering, how he'd come to be on the prairie short of runway 18's paved
threshold. Likewise, at the later group gathering, he seemed to me to be
simply answering the natural curiosity-based questions put to him. My sense
was that he fully understood the risks he'd been prepared to/did take, but
maybe that's only my individual perspective. Undoubtedly "the Kid's"
perspective would be different for a whole host of reasons. Whose is "right?"
My answer is all perspectives are right so long as risks are well comprehended
and sensibly factored into the individuals' future actions. (And, yes, I
recognize that "the learning venue/scenario" matters a LOT. A pilot's meeting
is a far poorer venue for nuanced learning than is [say] a classroom...but the
unavoidable fact is learning takes place everywhere.)

To continue with some of John Cochrane's (entirely valid) points...

"[...] This is about the rest of us. We glorify this??? This is the story we
want to pass on to our young impressionable pilots? 'Wow, this is how real
champions do it?' 'Keep this story in mind when you're making tough in flight
decisions?' "

Every pilot in the room when Harry Baldwin was asked to share how he'd come to
wind up on the prairie barely short of R18 was "a thoroughly experienced XC
sailplane pilot." Only "the Kid" (19 years old) was not "a legal adult." The
next youngest was "my pilot", a 28-year-old CFI, CFI-G, ATP (and likely more
acronyms of which I'm ignorant), with more OFLs in ~5 years of soaring than I
have in 50 years. So far, I'm the only one of us two to've damaged a sailplane
in an OFL...dirt clods poked 2 small holes in the nose fabric of my 1-26 on my
4th-ever OFL when I ignorantly landed in a plowed-only field. (Never made THAT
mistake again.) My point here is, context matters. And John Cochrane is right
that the RAS context is worlds apart from Moriarty's little enclave.

Were we to take a straw poll of whether RASidents would vote for total
exclusion of interesting, potentially valuable stories containing much food
for thought for every soaring pilot, vs. the alternative of not exposing
future soaring pilots to learning opportunities on RAS via this route, I know
which voting outcome I'd bet my retirement wad on. That said, and...

....in no way trying to be contentious, there is one area in which I suspect
John Cochrane and I are presently going to have to agree to disagree. Quoting
John again, "No, I'm sorry. In this case, not champion of champions. In this
case, one really lucky guy, who did something amazingly dumb, and thanks to
the low energy of the 1-26 got away with it." Taking the quote at face value
(always fraught with potential inaccuracy in a written settng as is RAS), I
agree Harry Baldwin was fortunate that his prairie landing worked out (as
previously noted, I believe EVERY pilot who makes a prairie landing without
plane damage is fortunate). I DISagree that Harry's thought process was a
concatenation of dumb thinking. I agree the 1-26 is perhaps the best ship in
common U.S. usage for any pilot to safely (for ship and pilot) learn the
nuances of OFLs.

Now reread John's closing paragraph. (I'll wait...:-))



Contest rules certainly do influence pilot decisions. That's human nature. And
"I feel John's pain" when it comes to the thankless, painful, task of being on
a rules committee, trying to define rules "100% acceptable to all viewpoints."
It can't be done. That said, I'd bet both of us are in complete agreement that
some rules "tend to promote safer behavior than other rules." Discussing THAT
will be done so long as humans are around to invent sporting
competitions...and is why John's felt much of his own pain in recent years!

My original post was an attempt to share with a larger audience a tale
containing considerable human drama. (Heck, I'm an anal engineer by
inclination and training, and *I* found the day's events compelling!) It was
as accurately written as I'm capable, did not indulge in inaccurate hyperbole
for effect, and did not seek to "glorify stupidity." I appreciate John
Cochrane's willingness to broach topics only (indirectly) hinted at in the
article, i.e. pilot decision making, rules incentives, "fundamental safety,"
etc., because these topics are an integral, fundamental part of my, John's,
Harry Baldwin's, readers', soaring avocation. I hope most readers can
appreciate the story and the lessons within it that are applicable to their
own safe flying, because what's *Really* Dumb to me is failure to learn from
others.

Respectfully,
Bob W.

RRK
September 8th 13, 10:39 PM
>
> Harry Baldwin. Champion of champions.


Hey,
Santiago, an aging fisherman struggled with a giant marlin. Harry struggled with reaching his goal. Triumph of will over weakness...and rules.

Kevin Christner
September 8th 13, 10:47 PM
The opposite argument would be that allowing straight in finishes stops people from trying to thermal up from 200 feet a mile from the airport while a bunch of other finishers are wizzing by at 100kts. Not sure whats more dangerous, but probably the whole thermalling thing. Perhaps we need a hard deck?

2C

On Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:11:27 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> This is a beautiful story..right up to the last two paragraphs. Read those again, carefully
>
>
>
> "At the awards ceremony, he added that he was going to do a straight in to the
>
> ground, options permitting, but he was NOT going to quit. He intended to leave
>
> nothing "in the cockpit" so to speak. He was trying to make the field. Runway
>
> 18 has some powerlines on its northern approach, and a barbed-wire fence not
>
> far beyond. He figured he could safely make it UNDER the powerlines...but
>
> wasn't certain he could make it OVER the fence. He landed. He said it was the
>
> roughest 1-26 landing he'd ever made. And that's saying something from a man
>
> who probably has well over a hundred off-field landings in a 1-26, many of
>
> them on dirt roads.
>
>
>
> He said that after all the banging and bumping stopped, and after all the dust
>
> had cleared away, and after he could see his flight computer, it showed he'd
>
> come to a stop barely within the finish circle! Under the 1-26 rules he would
>
> be scored with speed points!! He said he didn't care at that moment if he had
>
> lost, he knew he'd done his and the day's best. That's what competition - and
>
> life - is all about. Doing your best.
>

Eric Greenwell[_4_]
September 8th 13, 11:52 PM
RRK wrote, On 9/8/2013 2:39 PM:
>
>>
>> Harry Baldwin. Champion of champions.
>
>
> Hey, Santiago, an aging fisherman struggled with a giant marlin.
> Harry struggled with reaching his goal. Triumph of will over
> weakness...and rules.

The fisherman would not be injured or die if the Marlin got away.

I don't see how he triumphed over the rules, as it was the specifics of
the rule that let him get speed points. I was very surprised to learn
you can land in a field instead of the airport, and still get speed points.

Perhaps the 1-26 is so sturdy and lands so slowly, there is little to
worry about from rocks or barb wire fences.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

Wallace Berry[_2_]
September 9th 13, 03:22 PM
In article >,
Bob Whelan > wrote:

> Pardon the long post, but a Really Nifty Something happened at the recent
> 1-26, 2013, North American Championships held at Moriarty, New Mexico,
> recently. Hollywood couldn't have written a more dramatic script, and I'm
> guessing some RASidents might enjoy hearing about it. I know I sure enjoyed
> witnessing it from the perspective of a ground grunt (aka crewperson for a
> fellow competitor in the concurrently run 13.5 Meter Region 9 Super
> Regional).


Wow, great write-up, Bob. That really needs to be in SOARING. Good show
to the competitors and congrats to Mr. Baldwin.


I understand and generally agree with John Cochrane's position on safety
rules, but I'd like give Mr. Baldwin the benefit of the doubt regarding
his final glide strategy. I have not flown at Moriarty, but have flown
at one or two places where, WITH LOCAL KNOWLEDGE, flying a 1-26 right
down to the ground would not involve much risk and would not be "dumb".
I would like to think that this was the situation described in the
story. Finally, did not Mr. Baldwin exhibit fine judgement? He knew
where the obstacles were and chose to land rather than push on with an
approach taking him under power lines and into a fence. Looks to me like
he weighed the risks, acted accordingly, and had a successful outcome.

Ralph Jones[_3_]
September 9th 13, 04:11 PM
Interesting memory of the opposite behavior: I was in a Region 9 at
Las Vegas NM years ago, and the USAFA cadets were there with their
1-34, Sierra Hotel.

They had a rigid rule: At 500 AGL, land. Period.

A cadet reported the IP on a straight-in final. She was on a perfect
glide slope to the runway -- and at 500 feet, she peeled off and
landed in the boonies.

rj

Dan Marotta
September 10th 13, 12:06 AM
Giggle, Snort...

When I was an Air Force student pilot back in '73 they told us that landing
between two trees would absorb a lot of energy during a forced landing. So
the story goes, a pilot experiencing a forced landing saw a large field with
two trees in it...


"Ralph Jones" > wrote in message
...
> Interesting memory of the opposite behavior: I was in a Region 9 at
> Las Vegas NM years ago, and the USAFA cadets were there with their
> 1-34, Sierra Hotel.
>
> They had a rigid rule: At 500 AGL, land. Period.
>
> A cadet reported the IP on a straight-in final. She was on a perfect
> glide slope to the runway -- and at 500 feet, she peeled off and
> landed in the boonies.
>
> rj

Bob Whelan[_3_]
September 10th 13, 03:13 AM
On 9/9/2013 5:06 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Giggle, Snort...
>
> When I was an Air Force student pilot back in '73 they told us that landing
> between two trees would absorb a lot of energy during a forced landing. So
> the story goes, a pilot experiencing a forced landing saw a large field with
> two trees in it...
>
>
> "Ralph Jones" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Interesting memory of the opposite behavior: I was in a Region 9 at
>> Las Vegas NM years ago, and the USAFA cadets were there with their
>> 1-34, Sierra Hotel.
>>
>> They had a rigid rule: At 500 AGL, land. Period.
>>
>> A cadet reported the IP on a straight-in final. She was on a perfect
>> glide slope to the runway -- and at 500 feet, she peeled off and
>> landed in the boonies.
>>
>> rj
>

More recently (late '80s or early '90s), a "more money than experience" type
of glider pilot from the Boulder area bought a DG-400 and began flying XC
(gold distance+) hammer and tongs. I paid attention because I suspected he'd
never learned the basics of OFLs, and mighta been using the engine as his
"OFL-avoidance out." Dunno the full story, but he destroyed the ship by
hitting the (only) tree in a huge (according to the FBO who'd trained him and
saw the scene), good-to-land pasture, and - get this - within a few miles of
two (three if you count the one he almost certainly overflew on the way to his
crash) paved airports. The FBO was convinced he'd been messing with the engine
(trying to avoid the OFL) "for way too long." The FBO had no idea how or why
the guy hit the tree.

Big surprise, the erring pilot quit the sport after that...

Bob W.

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