airsickness prescription

[Wallace Berry[_2_]]

Seems like very few people in the U.S. have heard of it, but the most
effective prescription med for airsickness that I have found is
something called "Scopace". It is scopolamine in tablet form. Same drug
as in the very expensive anti-nausea patches. Much cheaper in tablet
form and the dose is easier to regulate. Extremely effective and fewer
side effects than the patch that way. I have had a scrip for it for
years for myself and my wife. Unfortunately, I was recently informed
that Scopace is no longer being manufactured due to a factory shutdown
or buyout or somesuch. Too bad. However, all is not lost. Exactly the
same drug is sold over-the-counter in Europe. The brand sold in Great
Britain sells under the name "Kwells" (the chemical name on the Kwells
package is "hyoscine hydrobromide" which is the more proper chemical
name for scopolamine). The Kwells tablets differ only in the dose.
Scopace was 40 milligrams. Kwells is 30 milligrams. That's actually a
more reasonable dose and will completely prevent motion sickness in a
180lb male for 6 hours. Confirmed by personal experience. Anyhow, you
can buy Kwells through the internet. I recently ordered a 12 tablet pack
from Chemist2go (on Amazon) for less than $8. Oh, and Kwells is chewable
unlike prescription Scopace which tastes nasty.

I cannot recommend this stuff enough, especially if you give a lot of
rides and find that no matter how gently you fly, passengers frequently
experience nausea. Give'em a Kwells 30 minutes before flight and you can
subject your pax to outside snap rolls after a lunch of greasy pork ribs
and they won't yack.

Fly safe,

WB

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[Bill D]

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:31:53 PM UTC-6, WB wrote:
> Seems like very few people in the U.S. have heard of it, but the most
>
> effective prescription med for airsickness that I have found is
>
> something called "Scopace". It is scopolamine in tablet form. Same drug
>
> as in the very expensive anti-nausea patches. Much cheaper in tablet
>
> form and the dose is easier to regulate. Extremely effective and fewer
>
> side effects than the patch that way. I have had a scrip for it for
>
> years for myself and my wife. Unfortunately, I was recently informed
>
> that Scopace is no longer being manufactured due to a factory shutdown
>
> or buyout or somesuch. Too bad. However, all is not lost. Exactly the
>
> same drug is sold over-the-counter in Europe. The brand sold in Great
>
> Britain sells under the name "Kwells" (the chemical name on the Kwells
>
> package is "hyoscine hydrobromide" which is the more proper chemical
>
> name for scopolamine). The Kwells tablets differ only in the dose.
>
> Scopace was 40 milligrams. Kwells is 30 milligrams. That's actually a
>
> more reasonable dose and will completely prevent motion sickness in a
>
> 180lb male for 6 hours. Confirmed by personal experience. Anyhow, you
>
> can buy Kwells through the internet. I recently ordered a 12 tablet pack
>
> from Chemist2go (on Amazon) for less than $8. Oh, and Kwells is chewable
>
> unlike prescription Scopace which tastes nasty.
>
>
>
> I cannot recommend this stuff enough, especially if you give a lot of
>
> rides and find that no matter how gently you fly, passengers frequently
>
> experience nausea. Give'em a Kwells 30 minutes before flight and you can
>
> subject your pax to outside snap rolls after a lunch of greasy pork ribs
>
> and they won't yack.
>
>
>
> Fly safe,
>
>
>
> WB
>
>
>
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The common Scopolamine side effects include dry mouth, throat, and nasal passages in some cases progressing to impaired speech, thirst, blurred vision, sensitivity to light, constipation, difficulty urinating, and tachycardia.

OTOH, Ginger in crystal form is reported to be an effective treatment without side effects.

[bumper[_4_]]

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:01:43 PM UTC-7, Bill D wrote:

>
> OTOH, Ginger in crystal form is reported to be an effective treatment without side effects.


I try to avoid drugs when I can. Ginger works just so-so for me. But this works very well. http://www.aeromedix.com/aeromedix_articles/reliefband/

bumper

[Wallace Berry[_2_]]

In article >,
bumper > wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:01:43 PM UTC-7, Bill D wrote:
>
> >
> > OTOH, Ginger in crystal form is reported to be an effective treatment
> > without side effects.
>
>
> I try to avoid drugs when I can. Ginger works just so-so for me. But this
> works very well. http://www.aeromedix.com/aeromedix_articles/reliefband/
>
> bumper

No doubt it is best if medications can be avoided altogether, but
sometimes the risk of drug side effects is less than the effects of
nausea. Even very mild motion sickness can manifest as "Sopites
syndrome", a nearly irresistible drowsiness that contributes to many
"asleep at the wheel" accidents. Sopites syndrome can be about as bad as
narcolepsy.

Both crystalline ginger and the relief band work well for some, not so
well for others. I have tried the electric relief band with my crew
chief who suffers from airsickness. Worked OK for her but was not 100%
effective in all situations. Motion combined with higher than normal
anxiety or excitement such as with someone's first glider flight, can
overwhelm the anti-nausea properties of ginger or the bands.


Scopolamine is indeed a very powerful drug with lots of side effects. In
higher doses, it can be lethal. However, the doses used for anti-nausea
rarely cause more than dry mouth. My experience with the anti-nausea
scopolamine patches is that they tend toward overdosing causing
drowsiness and headache on top of nearly terminal cotton-mouth. The
scopolamine pills allow one to tailor the dose to avoid side effects. My
experience with Scopace and Kwells scopolamine tablets is that they are
completely effective as opposed to Dramamine or other otc anti-nausea
meds commonly available in the U.S. that are only moderately effective
and have more side effects.

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[Wallace Berry[_2_]]

In article >,
bumper > wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:01:43 PM UTC-7, Bill D wrote:
>
> >
> > OTOH, Ginger in crystal form is reported to be an effective treatment
> > without side effects.
>
>
> I try to avoid drugs when I can. Ginger works just so-so for me. But this
> works very well. http://www.aeromedix.com/aeromedix_articles/reliefband/
>
> bumper


Oh, I forgot to mention: Be careful with the electric relief bands. My
crew chief was not at all amused when an operating electric band came
into contact with a particularly sensitive area. Did not make a mark on
her, but I carried a bruise for weeks.

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[Hartley Falbaum[_2_]]

On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:31:53 PM UTC-4, WB wrote:
> Seems like very few people in the U.S. have heard of it, but the most
>
> effective prescription med for airsickness that I have found is
>
> something called "Scopace". It is scopolamine in tablet form. Same drug
>
> as in the very expensive anti-nausea patches. Much cheaper in tablet
>
> form and the dose is easier to regulate. Extremely effective and fewer
>
> side effects than the patch that way. I have had a scrip for it for
>
> years for myself and my wife. Unfortunately, I was recently informed
>
> that Scopace is no longer being manufactured due to a factory shutdown
>
> or buyout or somesuch. Too bad. However, all is not lost. Exactly the
>
> same drug is sold over-the-counter in Europe. The brand sold in Great
>
> Britain sells under the name "Kwells" (the chemical name on the Kwells
>
> package is "hyoscine hydrobromide" which is the more proper chemical
>
> name for scopolamine). The Kwells tablets differ only in the dose.
>
> Scopace was 40 milligrams. Kwells is 30 milligrams. That's actually a
>
> more reasonable dose and will completely prevent motion sickness in a
>
> 180lb male for 6 hours. Confirmed by personal experience. Anyhow, you
>
> can buy Kwells through the internet. I recently ordered a 12 tablet pack
>
> from Chemist2go (on Amazon) for less than $8. Oh, and Kwells is chewable
>
> unlike prescription Scopace which tastes nasty.
>
>
>
> I cannot recommend this stuff enough, especially if you give a lot of
>
> rides and find that no matter how gently you fly, passengers frequently
>
> experience nausea. Give'em a Kwells 30 minutes before flight and you can
>
> subject your pax to outside snap rolls after a lunch of greasy pork ribs
>
> and they won't yack.
>
>
>
> Fly safe,
>
>
>
> WB
>
>
>
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Be sure to get Kwells, not Kwell, a treatment for Pediculosis Humanis Capitis or Pubis!
Be careful--do not take internally!

[[email protected]]

Another approach: Never take a first ride up in bumpy weather or for more than 20 minutes. Yeah, it's more fun for us to do a 5 hour xc or outside loops, but a 20 minute sled ride is a fantastic experience. If they like that, they'll come back for more. If they even get queasy, let alone sick, they will never, ever come back.

John Cochrane

[Wallace Berry[_2_]]

In article >,
wrote:

> Another approach: Never take a first ride up in bumpy weather or for more
> than 20 minutes. Yeah, it's more fun for us to do a 5 hour xc or outside
> loops, but a 20 minute sled ride is a fantastic experience. If they like
> that, they'll come back for more. If they even get queasy, let alone sick,
> they will never, ever come back.
>
> John Cochrane

Some folks just get queasy on the first ride, no matter what. I did, and
it was dead calm, almost no turns, no bumps. Motion ain't the only thing
contributing to motion sickness. Various military organizations have
done lots of research into motion sickness in an effort to prevent pilot
candidates from washing out of flight training. They identified anxiety
as a major factor in airsickness. The anxiety abates with time and
experience. In the short term, sometimes it really is "Better living
through pharmaceuticals".

Wish I'd had the scopolamine during that acro ride in the Great Lakes...

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[Wallace Berry[_2_]]

> >
> >
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> Be sure to get Kwells, not Kwell, a treatment for Pediculosis Humanis Capitis
> or Pubis!
> Be careful--do not take internally!

Hooh yeah. Once had to take my brother-in-law to the pharmacy for Kwell
lotion. First thing the pharmacist said when my bro-in-law asked for the
stuff was "Hah! Myrtle Beach, right?".

Remember when they used to sell Lindane for crabs?

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[Hartley Falbaum[_2_]]

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 2:03:56 PM UTC-4, WB wrote:
> > >
>
> > >
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>
> > Be sure to get Kwells, not Kwell, a treatment for Pediculosis Humanis Capitis
>
> > or Pubis!
>
> > Be careful--do not take internally!
>
>
>
> Hooh yeah. Once had to take my brother-in-law to the pharmacy for Kwell
>
> lotion. First thing the pharmacist said when my bro-in-law asked for the
>
> stuff was "Hah! Myrtle Beach, right?".
>
>
>
> Remember when they used to sell Lindane for crabs?
>
>
>
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That's what Kwell is!

[son_of_flubber]

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:13:34 AM UTC-4, WB wrote:
> Even very mild motion sickness can manifest as "Sopites
>
> syndrome", a nearly irresistible drowsiness that contributes to many
>
> "asleep at the wheel" accidents. Sopites syndrome can be about as bad as
>
> narcolepsy.
>
....
> The
>
> scopolamine pills allow one to tailor the dose to avoid side effects.

Are you saying that scopolamine relieves Sophite's Syndrome? I had assumed that the only thing that Sophite's and motion-induced-vomiting had in common was "motion" as a trigger. I understand that no one really knows the detailed mechanism/pathway for either, but "Scopolamine relieves Sophite's".... really?? Or is it the placebo effect?

Pure curiosity here as I suffer neither curse (so far). Sophite's is a very interesting thing.

[Wallace Berry[_2_]]

In article >,
son_of_flubber > wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:13:34 AM UTC-4, WB wrote:
> > Even very mild motion sickness can manifest as "Sopites
> >
> > syndrome", a nearly irresistible drowsiness that contributes to many
> >
> > "asleep at the wheel" accidents. Sopites syndrome can be about as bad as
> >
> > narcolepsy.
> >
> ...
> > The
> >
> > scopolamine pills allow one to tailor the dose to avoid side effects.
>
> Are you saying that scopolamine relieves Sophite's Syndrome? I had assumed
> that the only thing that Sophite's and motion-induced-vomiting had in common
> was "motion" as a trigger. I understand that no one really knows the
> detailed mechanism/pathway for either, but "Scopolamine relieves
> Sophite's"... really?? Or is it the placebo effect?
>
> Pure curiosity here as I suffer neither curse (so far). Sophite's is a very
> interesting thing.

It is my understanding that Sopites syndrome has a vestibular basis same
as motion induced nausea so I would expect drugs effective for one would
be effective for the other.

I can say with certainty that scopolamine is effective against Sopites
syndrome for me and my wife.

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[bumper[_4_]]

In my experience, the "electric relief band" only works if the directions are followed explicitly. It is critical the electrodes be positioned so the "tingle" goes up the center of the palm to between the ring and second finger.

It needs to be turned on at the first inkling of the onset of nausea, and for most this means putting it on and getting it adjusted before take off.

bumper

[Wallace Berry[_2_]]

In article >,
bumper > wrote:

> In my experience, the "electric relief band" only works if the directions are
> followed explicitly. It is critical the electrodes be positioned so the
> "tingle" goes up the center of the palm to between the ring and second
> finger.
>
> It needs to be turned on at the first inkling of the onset of nausea, and for
> most this means putting it on and getting it adjusted before take off.
>
> bumper

Absolutely. Apparently, the brain end of the nerves that serve that part
of the hand lie close to nerves associated with the inner ear. A little
cross-talk between those nerves short-circuits the nausea signal.

It is a good idea to carry some of the conductive electrode paste
supplied with the band with you in flight. It tends to dry up. When it
does, you lose the tingle.

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