Transponder use

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In your routine soaring footprint, does ATC ever "work" you off of 1202?

[John Carlyle]

NORCAL did when I was flying into the wave window at Minden. At home I'm not in contact with ATC, so I don't know for sure. However, it is routine for us to see IFR traffic divert to avoid gliders squawking 1202 - but that could be TCAS or ATC. All I know for sure is that I won't fly without my Trig TT21!

-John, Q3

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:08:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> In your routine soaring footprint, does ATC ever "work" you off of 1202?

[Linwood Stevenson]

I'm with Q3 on this one. Won't fly without the squawk on 1202. I have worked the local Class C facility and gone through, over, and around their space on both 1202 and occasionally an assigned discrete. Guess it depends on who's working the position. The local controllers are familiar with 1202 and seem to appreciate us letting them know where we hope to go. They are very good about letting us cut through the Class C to get back to home plate, as long as we have a transponder. Have been denied entry without one, which is their right....

Thinking a Trig with a Flarm should work well until an acceptable (read FAA legal and cheap) ADS-B out solution comes along.

Have a Microair for now (came with the glider), upgrading to Trig when funds permit.

Linwood
IT
Knoxville, TN

[Tony[_5_]]

the one time i called wichita approach, the 1202 code confused them, but that was right after it came out, and so far I think i'm the only transponder equipped glider that they've worked, so it was new for them. I sure like having it, especially for flying around the Class C

[Dan Marotta]

Haven't been worked by ATC but, as stated above, I don't see too many other
aircraft since installing my Trig TT22. Before the transponder, I got a lot
of closeup views of airliners, C-130s, and more capable GA aircraft.


"Tony" > wrote in message
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the one time i called wichita approach, the 1202 code confused them, but
that was right after it came out, and so far I think i'm the only
transponder equipped glider that they've worked, so it was new for them. I
sure like having it, especially for flying around the Class C

[JS]

Nothing new. This week I'll have my 5th transponder-equipped glider.
ATC understands 1202 where I live. Understood 1201 before that. Even with 1200 they could tell it was a glider, by the fact the pilot can't hold heading, altitude or speed.
Used discrete codes many times when requesting clearance through restricted areas. It's easy.
The Trig transponders are the easiest to calibrate, use the least power, and fit nicely in the panel.
Jim

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Flying 2KA (Duo Discus with Lynn Alley) out of Salt Lake a week ago in the wave we were squawking 1202. When we got to an area of high jet traffic we called to SLC approach and let them know we were there. Even though we were the only glider with a transponder flying in the area that day they still moved us over to another code to keep track of us. Interesting.

Bruno - B4

[Dan Marotta]

Because it makes them feel in "control"...

> wrote in message
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Flying 2KA (Duo Discus with Lynn Alley) out of Salt Lake a week ago in the
wave we were squawking 1202. When we got to an area of high jet traffic we
called to SLC approach and let them know we were there. Even though we were
the only glider with a transponder flying in the area that day they still
moved us over to another code to keep track of us. Interesting.

Bruno - B4

[Jim Kellett]

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:08:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> In your routine soaring footprint, does ATC ever "work" you off of 1202?

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Potomac Consolidated Tracon (PCT) in the mid-Atlantic area currently tags 1230 "Glider" on their scopes (are planning soon to switch the coding to 1202). Since we're never really in their Class B or C, they don't really need to 'work' us with comm, but use our signals to provide advisories to other traffic. Been working fine for years now, ever since we first negotiation a MOU with them long before 1202 was set aside.

[Alan[_6_]]

In article > "Dan Marotta" > writes:
>Because it makes them feel in "control"...
>
> wrote in message
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>Flying 2KA (Duo Discus with Lynn Alley) out of Salt Lake a week ago in the
>wave we were squawking 1202. When we got to an area of high jet traffic we
>called to SLC approach and let them know we were there. Even though we were
>the only glider with a transponder flying in the area that day they still
>moved us over to another code to keep track of us. Interesting.
>
>Bruno - B4

Actually, I suspect it is to allow them to tie the glider ident to the
target in the data block shown on the display. Then they know that you are
two kilo alpha instead of just that glider with the anonymous transponder
code.

It is also that much better in case another glider comes along in the area.

Alan

[Dan Marotta]

I think my Trig TT22 transmits my registration number along with the other
codes.


"Alan" > wrote in message
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> In article > "Dan Marotta"
> > writes:
>>Because it makes them feel in "control"...
>>
> wrote in message
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>>Flying 2KA (Duo Discus with Lynn Alley) out of Salt Lake a week ago in the
>>wave we were squawking 1202. When we got to an area of high jet traffic
>>we
>>called to SLC approach and let them know we were there. Even though we
>>were
>>the only glider with a transponder flying in the area that day they still
>>moved us over to another code to keep track of us. Interesting.
>>
>>Bruno - B4
>
> Actually, I suspect it is to allow them to tie the glider ident to the
> target in the data block shown on the display. Then they know that you
> are
> two kilo alpha instead of just that glider with the anonymous transponder
> code.
>
> It is also that much better in case another glider comes along in the
> area.
>
> Alan

[SoaringXCellence]

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:26:07 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I think my Trig TT22 transmits my registration number along with the other
>
> codes.
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>
>
>
>
> "Alan" > wrote in message
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> ...
>
> > In article > "Dan Marotta"
>
> > > writes:
>
> >>Because it makes them feel in "control"...
>
> >>
>
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >>Flying 2KA (Duo Discus with Lynn Alley) out of Salt Lake a week ago in the
>
> >>wave we were squawking 1202. When we got to an area of high jet traffic
>
> >>we
>
> >>called to SLC approach and let them know we were there. Even though we
>
> >>were
>
> >>the only glider with a transponder flying in the area that day they still
>
> >>moved us over to another code to keep track of us. Interesting.
>
> >>
>
> >>Bruno - B4
>
> >
>
> > Actually, I suspect it is to allow them to tie the glider ident to the
>
> > target in the data block shown on the display. Then they know that you
>
> > are
>
> > two kilo alpha instead of just that glider with the anonymous transponder
>
> > code.
>
> >
>
> > It is also that much better in case another glider comes along in the
>
> > area.
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> >
>
> > Alan

In fact that is one of the significant additions to a Mode-S transponder.