LXNAV V3 Issues

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Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support.

Thanks ... kk

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On Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:04:09 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support.
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I bought one of the first units that came to US. I flew with it last season along ClearNav variometer. I must say it is a very good variometer at a really low price. The variometer also allows to change the scale, very helpful in weak condition.

The only issue I had with it was setting up altimeter before the flight it takes way to many rotations to set it. I finally decided not to show the altimeter as a result and display STF instead.

You will be very happy with this variometer.

"AK"

[Richard[_9_]]

On Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:52:22 AM UTC-8, wrote:
> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:04:09 AM UTC-5, wrote: > Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support. > > > > Thanks ... kk I bought one of the first units that came to US. I flew with it last season along ClearNav variometer. I must say it is a very good variometer at a really low price. The variometer also allows to change the scale, very helpful in weak condition. The only issue I had with it was setting up altimeter before the flight it takes way to many rotations to set it. I finally decided not to show the altimeter as a result and display STF instead. You will be very happy with this variometer. "AK"

AK

If you push and use rotary switch a the same time will increase the altitude in larger incruments.

4.2 Rotary Switch
The one rotary switch/knob with integrated pushbutton function can control all functions on LXNAV V3. The rotary switch moves up or down through the menus. Variables can also be changed using the switch. Pushing the button at the same time as rotating will step the values in larger increments.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

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How did the V3 and the ClearNav vario compare?

I am debating between the V7 and the Clear Nav vario.

Gust filtering is of particular importance to me, along with overall function.

Thanks

Kevin
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[Dave Springford]

The V3 and V7 are completely different beasts so you can't really compare them. The V7 includes accelerometers and the newest Ver 3 firmware uses these for gust filtering. The feedback I have heard from V7 users is that it is an outstanding vario, particularly with the new firmware.

The V3 is a great basic vario. The connections are simple, 4 screws, two wires and a TE tube connection and you are done. As long as your TE system is working properly the vario does it's job.


Dave Springford
www.foxonecorp.com

[Richard[_9_]]

On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:16:24 PM UTC-8, Dave Springford wrote:
> The V3 and V7 are completely different beasts so you can't really compare them. The V7 includes accelerometers and the newest Ver 3 firmware uses these for gust filtering. The feedback I have heard from V7 users is that it is an outstanding vario, particularly with the new firmware.
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I agree with Dave. I have been flying with a PowerFlarm - V7 - Ultimate Le for several years. The V7 is an excellent vario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i0IVkHUnWU

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Richard[_9_]]

On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:16:35 AM UTC-8, Richard wrote:
> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:16:24 PM UTC-8, Dave Springford wrote:
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> > The V3 and V7 are completely different beasts so you can't really compare them. The V7 includes accelerometers and the newest Ver 3 firmware uses these for gust filtering. The feedback I have heard from V7 users is that it is an outstanding vario, particularly with the new firmware.
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Woops the Ytube shows an LX1600, current vario in the panel is a V7. The V7 is next to a Butterfly vario they are very similar in response.

http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimates.htm

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

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On Sunday, December 8, 2013 1:42:47 PM UTC-5, Richard wrote:
> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:52:22 AM UTC-8, wrote:
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> > On Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:04:09 AM UTC-5, wrote: > Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support. > > > > Thanks ... kk I bought one of the first units that came to US. I flew with it last season along ClearNav variometer. I must say it is a very good variometer at a really low price. The variometer also allows to change the scale, very helpful in weak condition. The only issue I had with it was setting up altimeter before the flight it takes way to many rotations to set it. I finally decided not to show the altimeter as a result and display STF instead. You will be very happy with this variometer. "AK"
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> If you push and use rotary switch a the same time will increase the altitude in larger incruments.
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> The one rotary switch/knob with integrated pushbutton function can control all functions on LXNAV V3. The rotary switch moves up or down through the menus. Variables can also be changed using the switch. Pushing the button at the same time as rotating will step the values in larger increments.
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> Richard
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> www.craggyaero.com

Thank you for the information and for selling me the unit. I must say I was so happy with the V3 I bought another LX Nav product.

[Nick Kennedy]

I have a LXNAV V3 vario in my panel. It is a fantastic digital TE vario that can be configured in many different ways.
On the Main screen you can show Altitude, Speed to fly, Battery power, Averager.
On the warm up page you can set Mc Cready, Bugs, Ballast. The Vario also has your polar in it. It creates a logbook of all your flights!
The digital pressure sensor takes data more than 100 times per second.
Internal speaker.
Anti reflective coated glass.
Works at 6 - 16 volts' which means when everything goes dead in your ship it probably will still work.
Easy to install and use.
Hooked up to a good TE source it works perfect.

Craggy Aero has the manual on his web page, look into it and you will be impressed on the capabilities of this high quality inexpensive vario.

One aspect I really like is the color screen; when you get up in the shade at cloudbase, it is beautiful to look at.

Great support from LXNAV and Craggy Aero.
Nick

[Luke Szczepaniak]

I have been flying with the V7 for about 200h now, the last 100h was
done with the inertial dampening enabled. I have experience with LX5000
(approx 600h) and CAI302 (approx 200h),in my opinion the V7 with the
latest firmware is heads above either of those two (I liked the LX5000
but sold it with my old ship, I could not get used to the 302 so
installed the V7).

The biggest advantage that I have found is that the vario now matches
what I feel in the seat of my pants 99% of the time were as before I
would sometimes get conflicting inputs, this has reduced the amount of
"tries" and improved my confidence in selecting thermals. Additionally
I really like the SC Mixed option for audio (STF audio while in sink and
Vario audio while in lift regardless of Cruise/Climb setting) the FLARM
radar when connected to a FLARM and a threat is detected is a nice
addition. I find that the audio tones and needle movement are pleasant
and intuitive.

Unfortunately I can't compare to CnV or Butterfly as I have not flown
with either of those units.

Luke Szczepaniak

On 12/08/2013 5:49 PM, wrote:
> How did the V3 and the ClearNav vario compare?
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> I am debating between the V7 and the Clear Nav vario.
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> Gust filtering is of particular importance to me, along with overall function.
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> Thanks
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> Kevin
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> The biggest advantage that I have found is that the vario now matches
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> what I feel in the seat of my pants 99% of the time were as before I
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> would sometimes get conflicting inputs, this has reduced the amount of
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> "tries" and improved my confidence in selecting thermals.
> > How did the V3 and the ClearNav vario compare?

Luke,

Thanks so much this is just the info I was looking for.

Kevin
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On Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:04:09 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support.
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> Thanks ... kk

I recently bought a LXNav V3 from Wings and Wheels for our Steamboat Club. I love all of its features, including the speed to fly function. I think it is a great unit for the price. However I discovered that my unit had a volume issue. It was quite depressing to not be able to hear the vario inside the cockpit of the Grob102. I tried hooking up the exterior speaker and could not get it too work either. Here is a video of the issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9DPqApIFl0

I think this is just a simple manufacturing defect. I told Wings & Wheels about the volume problem and they told me my only recourse is to send it back to Slovenia. I refuse to do that in the middle of the flying season, not to mention, that on top of the aggravation of getting a unit that doesn't work properly, I would have to pay for the shipping, customs, waiting...etc. I also don't see why I should have to hold the defective product since I paid in full and didn't give them defective money in exchange. So, I'm upset and Wings and Wheels, specially because prior to the sale they assured me that the vario had a one year full warranty. The fact is that Wings and Wheels doesn't guarantee or warranty anything, and they refuse to get involved anymore than to give me a shipping address in Slovenia. So heed my warning, don't buy it from Wings & Wheels, buy it from some one that stands behind what they sell.

[Dan Marotta]

Not to minimize your complaint but... I recently had to return an
instrument to Germany and the advice given to me by the company was to
state on the customs form that I was shipping an instrument for repair
and that it had no commercial value. The return shipping was done the
same way. There were neither customs nor VAT to pay. Shipping was very
expensive, however.

Dan Marotta

On 7/27/2014 11:03 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:04:09 AM UTC-7, wrote:
>> Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support.
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>> Thanks ... kk
> I recently bought a LXNav V3 from Wings and Wheels for our Steamboat Club. I love all of its features, including the speed to fly function. I think it is a great unit for the price. However I discovered that my unit had a volume issue. It was quite depressing to not be able to hear the vario inside the cockpit of the Grob102. I tried hooking up the exterior speaker and could not get it too work either. Here is a video of the issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9DPqApIFl0
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> I think this is just a simple manufacturing defect. I told Wings & Wheels about the volume problem and they told me my only recourse is to send it back to Slovenia. I refuse to do that in the middle of the flying season, not to mention, that on top of the aggravation of getting a unit that doesn't work properly, I would have to pay for the shipping, customs, waiting...etc. I also don't see why I should have to hold the defective product since I paid in full and didn't give them defective money in exchange. So, I'm upset and Wings and Wheels, specially because prior to the sale they assured me that the vario had a one year full warranty. The fact is that Wings and Wheels doesn't guarantee or warranty anything, and they refuse to get involved anymore than to give me a shipping address in Slovenia. So heed my warning, don't buy it from Wings & Wheels, buy it from some one that stands behind what they sell.

[Richard[_9_]]

On Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:03:10 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:04:09 AM UTC-7, wrote:
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> > Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support.
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> I recently bought a LXNav V3 from Wings and Wheels for our Steamboat Club.. I love all of its features, including the speed to fly function. I think it is a great unit for the price. However I discovered that my unit had a volume issue. It was quite depressing to not be able to hear the vario inside the cockpit of the Grob102. I tried hooking up the exterior speaker and could not get it too work either. Here is a video of the issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9DPqApIFl0
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> I think this is just a simple manufacturing defect. I told Wings & Wheels about the volume problem and they told me my only recourse is to send it back to Slovenia. I refuse to do that in the middle of the flying season, not to mention, that on top of the aggravation of getting a unit that doesn't work properly, I would have to pay for the shipping, customs, waiting....etc. I also don't see why I should have to hold the defective product since I paid in full and didn't give them defective money in exchange. So, I'm upset and Wings and Wheels, specially because prior to the sale they assured me that the vario had a one year full warranty. The fact is that Wings and Wheels doesn't guarantee or warranty anything, and they refuse to get involved anymore than to give me a shipping address in Slovenia. So heed my warning, don't buy it from Wings & Wheels, buy it from some one that stands behind what they sell.

robf,

Give me a call and possibly I can get some parts coming in my next order to repair your V3.

Actually the warranty is:

This LXNAV V3 product is warranted to be free from defects in materials or workmanship for
two years from the date of purchase. Within this period, LXNAV will, at its sole option, repair
or replace any components that fail in normal use. Such repairs or replacement will be made
at no charge to the customer for parts and labour, the customer shall be responsible for any
transportation cost. This warranty does not cover failures due to abuse, misuse, accident, or
unauthorised alterations or repairs.


Richard
www.craggyaero.com

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On Monday, July 28, 2014 8:36:32 AM UTC-6, Richard wrote:
> On Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:03:10 PM UTC-7, wrote:
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> > I think this is just a simple manufacturing defect. I told Wings & Wheels about the volume problem and they told me my only recourse is to send it back to Slovenia. I refuse to do that in the middle of the flying season, not to mention, that on top of the aggravation of getting a unit that doesn't work properly, I would have to pay for the shipping, customs, waiting...etc. I also don't see why I should have to hold the defective product since I paid in full and didn't give them defective money in exchange. So, I'm upset and Wings and Wheels, specially because prior to the sale they assured me that the vario had a one year full warranty. The fact is that Wings and Wheels doesn't guarantee or warranty anything, and they refuse to get involved anymore than to give me a shipping address in Slovenia. So heed my warning, don't buy it from Wings & Wheels, buy it from some one that stands behind what they sell.
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> Give me a call and possibly I can get some parts coming in my next order to repair your V3.
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> This LXNAV V3 product is warranted to be free from defects in materials or workmanship for
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> two years from the date of purchase. Within this period, LXNAV will, at its sole option, repair
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> or replace any components that fail in normal use. Such repairs or replacement will be made
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> at no charge to the customer for parts and labour, the customer shall be responsible for any
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> transportation cost. This warranty does not cover failures due to abuse, misuse, accident, or
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> unauthorised alterations or repairs.
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> Richard
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> www.craggyaero.com

Thanks for the info Rich, I wish W&W would of been so candid. I will certainly call you once other options are exhausted. I am also somewhat worried in that I might void the warranty if I try removing the cover.

[Richard[_9_]]

On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:41:29 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 8:36:32 AM UTC-6, Richard wrote:
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Robf,

I would not disassemble as their is probably nothing you could do to repair..

Do you have the current firmware version 1.3?

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Sean Franke]

Richard, thanks for your offer to help Roberto and take it from here. There have been many emails to LXNAV over the last month to diagnose and come up with a solution. Their warranty policy as you stated has been conveyed over several calls with Roberto. Last instruction over a week ago to Wings & Wheels from LXNAV was to have Roberto send the unit back for warranty repairs. Your solution could be a better option. Call me to discuss what has been covered so far

Sean Franke
Wings & Wheels

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On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:04:09 AM UTC-8, wrote:
> Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support. Thanks ... kk

i recently bought a V3. worked great for about 10 flights. it began "locking" or freezing, but a power cyle restroed it. than the issue has been getting worse, up to the point where the last time out it was totally "lights on, nobody home".

guess it will be going to EU in the off season. tried to do a firmware update without success. made the serial cable per the instructions but that didnt work either. but now its come back to life so Ill see how long it lasts.

[JS]

Probably have ten flights with the V3. One as the only vario while the other was getting calibrated, then it returned to the original plan as backup.
It's a very nice unit, no problems so far.
....But do know that shipping from USA to and from Slovenia isn't the easiest/cheapest thing to do. FedEx and UPS seem overpriced, but with USPS tracking stops at the SI border.
Jim

[Richard[_9_]]

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:59:09 PM UTC-7, JS wrote:
> Probably have ten flights with the V3. One as the only vario while the other was getting calibrated, then it returned to the original plan as backup.
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> Jim

Shipping to Slovenia US Postal Priority Mail. Small items less than 2 pounds.

$36.40 Delivery approx 2 weeks. I have never had any issues.


Richard
www.craggyaero.com

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On Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 7:04:09 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> Good morning ... anybody have experience with the LXNAV V3 ... how do you like the unit ... any issues with installation, operation, maintenance or support.
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> Thanks ... kk

I am very pleased to report that LXnav took care of my volume issues with the V3. Wings and Wheels shipped it to the factory and had it returned to our club in less than four weeks. It is now hooked up with an external speaker and I'm happy to report that the V3 can now be made as loud as could possibly be desired . I want to thanks Wings & Wheels for taking care of this warranty issue.

Roberto