Re: Runway Three or Runway Zero Three - which is better ?

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On Saturday, May 3, 1997 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Andrew M. Sarangan wrote:
> I was taught to always call out runway number in two digits. When I was
> training in Ottawa, the tower and all pilots refer to Runway Zero-Four,
> not Runway Four. Similarly Runway Three-Five, not Runway Thirty Five.
>
> In Albuquerque, USA, where I fly now, I have noticed the opposite.
>
> Today, the tower instructed me to fly a left base for Runway Three. Every
> other time at this airport, I landed on Runway 30. For a brief moment I was
> confused. When I asked for clarification how they want me to enter a left
> pattern for Three-Zero, they said, "I said Runway Three, not runway Thirty".
>
> How do other pilots like to refer to runway numbers ?

In the US, painted on the runway would be 19 - 1. Not 01

[Dave Doe]

In article >,
, says...
>
> On Saturday, May 3, 1997 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Andrew M. Sarangan wrote:
> > I was taught to always call out runway number in two digits. When I was
> > training in Ottawa, the tower and all pilots refer to Runway Zero-Four,
> > not Runway Four. Similarly Runway Three-Five, not Runway Thirty Five.
> >
> > In Albuquerque, USA, where I fly now, I have noticed the opposite.
> >
> > Today, the tower instructed me to fly a left base for Runway Three. Every
> > other time at this airport, I landed on Runway 30. For a brief moment I was
> > confused. When I asked for clarification how they want me to enter a left
> > pattern for Three-Zero, they said, "I said Runway Three, not runway Thirty".
> >
> > How do other pilots like to refer to runway numbers ?
>
> In the US, painted on the runway would be 19 - 1. Not 01

And in the *rest* of the world, outside US juristiction etc, it'd be 01.
:)

--
Duncan.

[george152]

On 14/03/14 14:49, Dave Doe wrote:
> In article >,
> , says...
>>
>> On Saturday, May 3, 1997 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Andrew M. Sarangan wrote:
>>> I was taught to always call out runway number in two digits. When I was
>>> training in Ottawa, the tower and all pilots refer to Runway Zero-Four,
>>> not Runway Four. Similarly Runway Three-Five, not Runway Thirty Five.
>>>
>>> In Albuquerque, USA, where I fly now, I have noticed the opposite.
>>>
>>> Today, the tower instructed me to fly a left base for Runway Three. Every
>>> other time at this airport, I landed on Runway 30. For a brief moment I was
>>> confused. When I asked for clarification how they want me to enter a left
>>> pattern for Three-Zero, they said, "I said Runway Three, not runway Thirty".
>>>
>>> How do other pilots like to refer to runway numbers ?
>>
>> In the US, painted on the runway would be 19 - 1. Not 01
>
> And in the *rest* of the world, outside US juristiction etc, it'd be 01.
> :)
>
I rather suspect that its the same in the US.
Just some-one doing a Walter Mitty

[Sylvia Else]

On 14/03/2014 1:42 PM, george152 wrote:
> On 14/03/14 14:49, Dave Doe wrote:
>> In article >,
>> , says...
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 3, 1997 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Andrew M. Sarangan wrote:
>>>> I was taught to always call out runway number in two digits. When I was
>>>> training in Ottawa, the tower and all pilots refer to Runway Zero-Four,
>>>> not Runway Four. Similarly Runway Three-Five, not Runway Thirty Five.
>>>>
>>>> In Albuquerque, USA, where I fly now, I have noticed the opposite.
>>>>
>>>> Today, the tower instructed me to fly a left base for Runway Three.
>>>> Every
>>>> other time at this airport, I landed on Runway 30. For a brief
>>>> moment I was
>>>> confused. When I asked for clarification how they want me to enter a
>>>> left
>>>> pattern for Three-Zero, they said, "I said Runway Three, not runway
>>>> Thirty".
>>>>
>>>> How do other pilots like to refer to runway numbers ?
>>>
>>> In the US, painted on the runway would be 19 - 1. Not 01
>>
>> And in the *rest* of the world, outside US juristiction etc, it'd be 01.
>> :)
>>
> I rather suspect that its the same in the US.
> Just some-one doing a Walter Mitty

See

37.782976,-81.124887

in Google Earth.

Nice example of how the runway number looks like part of the centre line
markings. If it were 01, it would be so much clearer.

Sylvia.

[Nomen Nescio]

> On Saturday, May 3, 1997 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Andrew M. Sarangan wrote:
> >
> > How do other pilots like to refer to runway numbers ?

"three zero" makes more sense than "thirty", as all pilots with
English as a second language would have to learn to count to 35.

And iirc, the phonetic convention only goes to nine. So would 29 be
"twenty niner"? Two niner makes more sense.

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
Nomen Nescio > wrote:

> > On Saturday, May 3, 1997 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Andrew M. Sarangan wrote:
> > >
> > > How do other pilots like to refer to runway numbers ?
>
> "three zero" makes more sense than "thirty", as all pilots with
> English as a second language would have to learn to count to 35.

No -- they have to go to 36, as there is no Runway Zero-Zero. It is
Runway Three Six.

>
> And iirc, the phonetic convention only goes to nine. So would 29 be
> "twenty niner"? Two niner makes more sense.