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HECTOP
May 20th 04, 01:53 AM
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Steve
May 20th 04, 03:02 AM
UGH! one of my pet peeves....ITS NOT "ICE HOCKEY", IT JUST PLAIN "HOCKEY"
How would you americans like the canadians calling your sport "grass
football"
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May 20th 04, 03:12 AM
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> UGH! one of my pet peeves....ITS NOT "ICE HOCKEY", IT JUST PLAIN "HOCKEY"
> How would you americans like the canadians calling your sport "grass
> football"

yeah, yeah... a Canuck ranting about hockey at a Russkie... ;-)

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Peter Duniho
May 20th 04, 03:50 AM
"Steve" > wrote in message
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> UGH! one of my pet peeves....ITS NOT "ICE HOCKEY", IT JUST PLAIN "HOCKEY"
> How would you americans like the canadians calling your sport "grass
> football"

Huh?

As far as "ice hockey" goes, there are other forms of hockey (street, field,
etc.). What in the world makes you think that "hockey" is the official name
for the sport? Why shouldn't someone call the form of hockey that's played
on ice "ice hockey"?

If you want to call American football "grass football", that's fine with me.
It's not like anyone else in the world calls it "football" anyway, since
they have a different sport by that name.

If you're gonna peeve, you oughta at least be able to provide an official
source for your peeve. Where is it?

Pete

HECTOP
May 20th 04, 03:51 AM
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С уважением!

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HECTOP
May 20th 04, 03:53 AM
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> Huh?

now why is it every time I post an innocent, cute photo link from
airliners.net, the thread has to turn into a flame? ;-)

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Shiver Me Timbers
May 20th 04, 03:59 AM
> HECTOP > wrote:

> now why is it every time I post an innocent, cute photo link from
> airliners.net, the thread has to turn into a flame? ;-)

Greetings from Alberta..... The home of tasty Alberta beef,
and the Calgary flames who just happen to be leading the
San Jose Sharks as they go into the third period.

GO FLAMES GO

And thanks for the picture HECTOP.... It's a keeper.

BTIZ
May 20th 04, 05:01 AM
well... seeing how some people play "Street" hockey with sticks and balls..

maybe it should be "Defined" further.. LOL

BT

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> UGH! one of my pet peeves....ITS NOT "ICE HOCKEY", IT JUST PLAIN "HOCKEY"
> How would you americans like the canadians calling your sport "grass
> football"
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Peter Duniho
May 20th 04, 06:58 AM
"Shiver Me Timbers" > wrote in message
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> Greetings from Alberta..... The home of tasty Alberta beef,
> and the Calgary flames who just happen to be leading the
> San Jose Sharks as they go into the third period.

And no last-minute comeback.

Congrats, all you Alberta fans of the Flames. :)

Joe Johnson
May 20th 04, 11:59 AM
don't remind me--I'm still in mourning about my Wings...

Bob Chilcoat
May 20th 04, 02:08 PM
Which came first, Field Hockey (called "Hockey" in the UK) or "Ice" Hockey?
The one that came first should be the one without a qualifier.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
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> well... seeing how some people play "Street" hockey with sticks and
balls..
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> maybe it should be "Defined" further.. LOL
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"HOCKEY"
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> > football"
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Jon Parmet
May 20th 04, 02:52 PM
"Peter Duniho" > wrote in message >...
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> As far as "ice hockey" goes, there are other forms of hockey (street, field,

Ambiguous. How is one able to distinguish which type field surface is
being used? You might have meant "Astro Turf Field Hockey" or more
likely "Grass Field Hockey"... or even "Out Standing In Their Field
Hockey"

;)


Regards,

A bitter Bruins fan

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Peter R.
May 20th 04, 04:27 PM
Peter Duniho ) wrote:

> If you want to call American football "grass football", that's fine with me.

Arena football.

--
Peter

Peter R.
May 20th 04, 04:31 PM
Steve ) wrote:

> UGH! one of my pet peeves....ITS NOT "ICE HOCKEY", IT JUST PLAIN "HOCKEY"

When one lives in a part of the world where outside temperatures cannot
support year-round ice, one improvises.

As a result, field hockey and indoor hockey were created. Most likely
"ice" was added to hockey to eliminate confusion.

Oh, and I almost forgot tonsil hockey, usually played by teenagers in lust.

--
Peter

Shiver Me Timbers
May 20th 04, 04:31 PM
> Peter R. > wrote:

> Arena football.

I'll see your arena football and raise you a game of indoor soccor.

Gene Seibel
May 20th 04, 05:47 PM
"HECTOP" > wrote in message >...
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Yes, but prefer to not be the puck. ;)
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G.R. Patterson III
May 20th 04, 07:46 PM
HECTOP wrote:
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> now why is it every time I post an innocent, cute photo link from
> airliners.net, the thread has to turn into a flame? ;-)

Simple elimination, Yuri. The only common factor in these posts is you. :-)

George Patterson
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HECTOP
May 20th 04, 08:00 PM
"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
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> Simple elimination, Yuri. The only common factor in these posts is you.
> :-)

figures that much ;-)

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Dima Volodin
May 20th 04, 08:27 PM
"HECTOP" > wrote in message
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> you'll need to set your Outlook Express to post in your preferred cyrillic
> encoding (Tools/Options/Send/International Settings), either KOI-8 or
> Win-1251 in order for it show up properly, but changing it will also default
> your e-mail encoding to that and will annoy the heck out of your
> non-russian recepients by notifying them of non-english encoding every time
> they open your e-mail.

Don't listen to HECTOP - he won't teach you any good :-)

Just go to Format->Encoding and chose either Cyrillic (KOI8-R) or Cyrillic
(Windows) when composing your message. Unicode will work for most people too.

> HECTOP

Dima
or in Cyrillic alphabet - Дима :-)

Dima Volodin
May 20th 04, 08:49 PM
"Bob Chilcoat" > wrote in message
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> Which came first, Field Hockey (called "Hockey" in the UK) or "Ice" Hockey?
> The one that came first should be the one without a qualifier.

The one that came first gracefully abdicated its name and is now called "Bandy"
(except in Russian where its called ... "hockey with ball" :-)

> Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

Dima

Bob Noel
May 20th 04, 09:27 PM
In article >,
(Jon Parmet) wrote:

> A bitter Bruins fan

oh heck, the Bruins didn't quite have a good enough team
to compete for the Cup (I still measure the Bruins by
the 69-70 team).

--
Bob Noel

Newps
May 20th 04, 11:54 PM
"Shiver Me Timbers" > wrote in message
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> Greetings from Alberta..... The home of tasty Alberta beef,

And both cases of mad cow disease in North America.

Shiver Me Timbers
May 21st 04, 12:12 AM
> >"Shiver Me Timbers" > wrote

> > Greetings from Alberta..... The home of tasty Alberta beef,

> Newps > wrote:

> And both cases of mad cow disease in North America.

Is that a fact.......?????????

Now if my feeble facts serve me well is was just a year and a few days
ago that ONE cow was discovered with BSE in Alberta..... the home of
tasty Alberta beef.

And if the rest of my feeble brain is working it was shortly thereafter
that the second case of BSE was discovered in GAAAAAASSSSSSP
the Good ole US of A.

Now Newps I don't know what your having for supper tonite but for the
last hour I've been watching a homespun Canadian flying show on TV
while trying to decide whether or not it's roast chicken or roast beef
for supper tonite...... And I'd like to thank you for making up my
mind.

Take one frozen chunk of tasty Alberta beef.... In this case a roast.
Throw it into an electric frying pan set on low heat. Add a handful of
chopped onions, couple ounces of soya sauce and a big squirt of
barbeque sauce, fill to the rim with water, cover, and leave for about
three to four hours.

When it breaks apart with a fork it's ready to eat.... no knife needed.

Now that's tasty Albert beef.

So besides a serving of crow just what are you having for supper.

Bob Noel
May 21st 04, 10:47 AM
In article >, Shiver Me
Timbers > wrote:

> > And both cases of mad cow disease in North America.
>
> Is that a fact.......?????????
>
> Now if my feeble facts serve me well is was just a year and a few days
> ago that ONE cow was discovered with BSE in Alberta..... the home of
> tasty Alberta beef.
>
> And if the rest of my feeble brain is working it was shortly thereafter
> that the second case of BSE was discovered in GAAAAAASSSSSSP
> the Good ole US of A.

and if my feeble facts serve me well, that second case was a cow
from Canada... Last I heard, Canadian officials didn't believe
that and so a lot of folks were researching.

--
Bob Noel

Jon Parmet
May 21st 04, 03:20 PM
Bob Noel > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> (Jon Parmet) wrote:
>
> > A bitter Bruins fan
>
> oh heck, the Bruins didn't quite have a good enough team
> to compete for the Cup

well, in the past few years they'd been squeaking into the
playoffs near the last spot. whether or not they were
ultimately Cup worthy, they should have made it out of the
first round. they were about to and should have buried the
Habs.

> (I still measure the Bruins by the 69-70 team).

Go Flyers... (Dad's from Philly)

Shiver Me Timbers
May 21st 04, 07:26 PM
> Bob Noel > wrote:

> and if my feeble facts serve me well, that second case was a cow
> from Canada... Last I heard, Canadian officials didn't believe
> that and so a lot of folks were researching.

It probably was Bob.... But we sent it to the US of A so that you
Americans could see first hand what happens when your borders get
closed to beef exports and what happens when your government runs
around like the proverbial chicken with it's head cut off.

It's not a pleasant experience to the thousands of farmers and ranchers
who lives have been destroyed or put into utter turmoil or those who
work in the industry whether they are a truck driver who delivers
cattle, those that slaughter them, or those that sell them.

And since a cow doesn't know what side of the border it is on, or what
a flag looks like, then the people who's lives are shattered get to
experience that on both sides of the borders.... Yours, and mine.

Newps
May 21st 04, 10:11 PM
"Shiver Me Timbers" > wrote in message
...
> > Bob Noel > wrote:
>
> > and if my feeble facts serve me well, that second case was a cow
> > from Canada... Last I heard, Canadian officials didn't believe
> > that and so a lot of folks were researching.
>
> It probably was Bob.... But we sent it to the US of A so that you
> Americans could see first hand what happens when your borders get
> closed to beef exports and what happens when your government runs
> around like the proverbial chicken with it's head cut off.

It actually helped the situation. You guys fed the little cows their
chopped up brothers and sisters when they were yearlings. Cows get sold to
someone here and when it is about 4-5 yeras old it has mad cow disease. So
now we know that it takes several years for a cow to develop the disease and
that a cow that would develop the disease but is butchered prior to that is
perfectly safe.


>
> It's not a pleasant experience to the thousands of farmers and ranchers
> who lives have been destroyed or put into utter turmoil or those who
> work in the industry whether they are a truck driver who delivers
> cattle, those that slaughter them, or those that sell them.

It had little to no effect here in the states. The price has held steady
since the highs last summer and early fall.

Newps
May 21st 04, 10:14 PM
For those of us that grew up living and breathing hockey we always get that
little smile when somebody says ice hockey. It instantly indentifies you as
an outsider. Much like pronouncing the capital of South Dakota "Pee air".



"Steve" > wrote in message
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> UGH! one of my pet peeves....ITS NOT "ICE HOCKEY", IT JUST PLAIN "HOCKEY"

Shiver Me Timbers
May 21st 04, 10:17 PM
> Newps > wrote:

> So now we know that it takes several years for a cow to develop
> the disease and that a cow that would develop the disease but
> is butchered prior to that is perfectly safe.

Exactly.

> The price has held steady since the highs last summer and early fall.

Same on this side of the border and yet many farmers and ranchers on
both sides have taken the financial hit while the processors and food
stores have made a very healthy profit.

Scott Benger
May 22nd 04, 04:43 AM
PMFJI:

"National Hockey League Official Rules"
"Rules Governing the Game of Ice Hockey"
"Section One -- The Rink"
"Rule 1. Rink"

"The game of 'Ice Hockey' shall be played on an ice surface known as
the 'Rink'."

Source: Page 172
The Annotated Rules of Hockey
by James Duplacey
edited by Dan Diamond
Published by Lyons & Burford, New York, New York

copyright 1996 by NHL Enterprises
and Dan Diamond and Associates, Inc.




On Fri, 21 May 2004 15:14:40 -0600, "Newps" >
wrote:

>For those of us that grew up living and breathing hockey we always get that
>little smile when somebody says ice hockey. It instantly indentifies you as
>an outsider. Much like pronouncing the capital of South Dakota "Pee air".
>

Paul Sengupta
May 22nd 04, 10:06 PM
"Steve" > wrote in message
...
> UGH! one of my pet peeves....ITS NOT "ICE HOCKEY", IT JUST PLAIN "HOCKEY"
> How would you americans like the canadians calling your sport "grass
> football"

"Hockey" is played on grass. With sticks and a ball.

Ice hockey is the sport played on ice.

Paul (captained my school's hockey "B" team once,
believe it or not for those who know me!)

Paul Sengupta
May 22nd 04, 10:11 PM
"Jon Parmet" > wrote in message
om...
> A bitter Bruins fan

A Brains Bitter fan.

Paul
(those who have drunk beer in South Wales will know what
the heck I'm talking about) (Actually I prefer SA)

Paul Sengupta
May 22nd 04, 10:11 PM
"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Peter Duniho ) wrote:
>
> > If you want to call American football "grass football", that's fine with
me.
>
> Arena football.

American Football.

Paul

Newps
May 23rd 04, 03:24 PM
"Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
...

>
> "Hockey" is played on grass. With sticks and a ball.

Not in North America and not in eastern Europe.


>
> Ice hockey is the sport played on ice.

Yes.

G.R. Patterson III
May 23rd 04, 09:05 PM
Peter Duniho wrote:
>
> If you want to call American football "grass football", that's fine with me.

The Brits have been calling it "American Football" for at least 90 years.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

G.R. Patterson III
May 23rd 04, 09:08 PM
Newps wrote:
>
> "Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > "Hockey" is played on grass. With sticks and a ball.
>
> Not in North America and not in eastern Europe.

It is in the U.S.. My grandmother was quite good at it when she was in college, and
my niece has been offered athletic scholarships to several good schools playing
hockey. On grass.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

Shiver Me Timbers
May 23rd 04, 09:23 PM
> G.R. Patterson III > wrote:

> my niece has been offered athletic scholarships to several
> good schools playing hockey. On grass.

Now George that's what I call a very liberal attitude.

They won't even let our athletes play on steroids up here.

Larry Dighera
May 23rd 04, 09:38 PM
On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:08:35 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
> wrote in Message-Id:
>:

>
>
>Newps wrote:
>>
>> "Paul Sengupta" > wrote in message
>> ...
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>> > "Hockey" is played on grass. With sticks and a ball.
>>
>> Not in North America and not in eastern Europe.
>
>It is in the U.S.. My grandmother was quite good at it when she was in college, and
>my niece has been offered athletic scholarships to several good schools playing
>hockey. On grass.


Aviation/hockey trivia:

Amy Johnson, the 26(?) year old lass with ~100 flight hours who flew
her Gypsy Moth solo 11,000 mile from England to Australia in 1930 in
19 days, lost her front teeth to a hockey puck in secondary school,
IIRC.

http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/a/am/amy_johnson.html
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Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

G.R. Patterson III
May 23rd 04, 11:14 PM
Larry Dighera wrote:
>
> Amy Johnson, the 26(?) year old lass with ~100 flight hours who flew
> her Gypsy Moth solo 11,000 mile from England to Australia in 1930 in
> 19 days, lost her front teeth to a hockey puck in secondary school,
> IIRC.

We are certainly hoping that my niece doesn't suffer the same fate. Especially since
her parents just finished the last installment to the orthodontist. :-)

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

HECTOP
May 24th 04, 12:53 AM
"Shiver Me Timbers" > wrote in message
...
>> G.R. Patterson III > wrote:
>> good schools playing hockey. On grass.
> They won't even let our athletes play on steroids up here.

You knew I wuz goin' to say that!

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