Stiffed on Ebay

[Jay Honeck]

I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm really
surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an avionics buyer who
simply won't pay for the item he won.

I listed our old Narco AT 50 transponder (which, BTW, we replaced with a
Garmin GTX-327 -- a truly great unit), and my winner bid $285 for it.

That was over three weeks ago, and when pressed about the status of his
payment, the guy only responded with one sentence emails promising to "look
into it."

I finally gave him a 24 hour deadline, which he missed, and have re-listed
the transponder for sale.

This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy and
painless.

Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[NW_PILOT]

I run in to non paying bidders all the time act now file a NPBA then a FVF
Credit time is limited in what you can do ebay is truing to make it better
for sellers just file a non paying bidder alert on him 11 days later leave
negative feedback and immediately file a FVF credit to cancel the sale.

Non Paying Bidder Alert
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?NPBComplaintForm

Final Value Fee Credit Request
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?CreditRequest

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:GDDCc.100322$Sw.66446@attbi_s51...
> I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm
really
> surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an avionics buyer
who
> simply won't pay for the item he won.
>
> I listed our old Narco AT 50 transponder (which, BTW, we replaced with a
> Garmin GTX-327 -- a truly great unit), and my winner bid $285 for it.
>
> That was over three weeks ago, and when pressed about the status of his
> payment, the guy only responded with one sentence emails promising to
"look
> into it."
>
> I finally gave him a 24 hour deadline, which he missed, and have re-listed
> the transponder for sale.
>
> This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy and
> painless.
>
> Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Friedrich Ostertag]

Hi Jay,

> I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm
> really surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an
> avionics buyer who simply won't pay for the item he won.

Hasn't happened to me yet, but I also have sold only a handful of items
so far. But I guess there is a reason why so many sellers state in
their auctions that "fun-bidders" will be sued for "handling costs",
normally 25% of auction value. In Germany this is legally possible, as
by bidding you are accepting a binding contract. I'm not sure about the
US, and I don't know whether it's worth the hassle. Wish you better
luck next time.

regards,
Friedrich

--
for personal email please remove "entfernen" from my adress

[Dudley Henriques]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:GDDCc.100322$Sw.66446@attbi_s51...
> I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm
really
> surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an avionics
buyer who
> simply won't pay for the item he won.
>
> I listed our old Narco AT 50 transponder (which, BTW, we replaced with
a
> Garmin GTX-327 -- a truly great unit), and my winner bid $285 for it.
>
> That was over three weeks ago, and when pressed about the status of
his
> payment, the guy only responded with one sentence emails promising to
"look
> into it."
>
> I finally gave him a 24 hour deadline, which he missed, and have
re-listed
> the transponder for sale.
>
> This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy
and
> painless.
>
> Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?

I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay, based
on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
The entire thing is set up so that the middle man (Ebay) can make money
on a transaction. That's all well and good, for Ebay, and I'm sure this
procedure attracts a whole bunch of people based on Ebay's financial
position, but I just don't get the attraction.
As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale, but
AFTER the sale as well. If I'm thinking of buying something I don't need
anyone telling me I can't change my mind, even up to the point of sale.
Even AFTER buying something, if I have a problem with it, I want the
option to return it to where I bought it for full credit. I've been
buying this way for many years and have never had a problem.
Suppose this guy who won the bid on the transponder suffered a problem
that prevented his going through with the purchase.....hell, it could be
anything? On EBay, he doesn't have the option to cancel? Hell, that's no
way to buy something....at least as far as I'm concerned anyway. I've
obviously never used Ebay and never will. I guess it's ok for some, but
it's definitely NOT my cup of tea :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

[SeeAndAvoid]

Ya, I've been stiffed once on ebay, no emails, nothing, as if the guy
fell off the face of the earth. I waited and waited, then finally did
the non paying bidder thing. Right now I'm in the middle of a
situation that kind of sucks. I sold my turn coordinator that I
replaced with a new autopilot (Stec30). It was overhauled
about 2 years ago and was working fine. I sold it on ebay back
in April for about $120, stating everything about it-that it was
in good working condition, recently overhauled and by who,
but that there was no warranty, returns, or refunds.

2 months after the fact this guy writes me to tell me he finally
installed it and it doesn't work. Before I even get a chance to
respond he leaves me my first neutral feedback on ebay, I have
no negatives. Says I claimed it worked but was DOA. He also
says the package seemed to be delivered in good condition, I
had that thing pretty well packed and I paid more for postage
than what I stated in the ebay description.

I don't know what kind of plane or voltage he put it in, or who
put it in for him. It wasn't dead on departure. But even if it did
arrive DOA, which I'm still not convinced of, the neutral rating
is not deserved as I made no claims or guarantees or warranty
on the item, it was sold AS IS. And now if it magically starts
working, I'm still stuck with that rating.

With regard to Dudley's concerns: I've had people want to cancel
a bid for some reason or another. I think Jays point is his bidders
lack of communication, we're all fairly reasonable people. I've
let people out of a bid before, but I also make it pretty clear on
every bid description "make sure this is what you want BEFORE
you bid". As far as the guarantee of returning items, I expect that
luxury from retailers that sell through ebay, but not on used items
from individuals. The ebay fee and shipping back and forth doesnt
make it worth it for either party.

You have to look at it like a garage sale. You may get a good or
great deal sometimes, you may not. The times you do, you probably
are getting a big discount on something someone no longer needs
but you do. The other advantage, as a buyer, is getting things way
cheaper than any other method. This is usually with a retailer,
who has a fixed ebay price, Buy It Now, and possibly a seperate
retail website with another price. They'll also throw up a bid
on the same item, and often you can beat their other prices with the
bid if you're patient, it may take several bids. With retailers, I've
returned damaged merchandise.

I've sold over a couple grand worth of stuff lying around my house
that would otherwise continue lying around. So for that I love
ebay. I've bought mostly new items on ebay, rarely something
old or used. But if I did, it's the old 'buyer beware' or 'you get
what you pay for' situation. It's sometimes a gamble, especially
through an individual. But I never buy anything very expensive
anyway, just little things. I'd never buy a car or airplane without
the option to cancel a bid or some kind of warranty. That area I'd
agree with Dudley on.

Chris

> As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale, but
> AFTER the sale as well. If I'm thinking of buying something I don't need
> anyone telling me I can't change my mind, even up to the point of sale.
> Even AFTER buying something, if I have a problem with it, I want the
> option to return it to where I bought it for full credit. I've been
> buying this way for many years and have never had a problem.
> Suppose this guy who won the bid on the transponder suffered a problem
> that prevented his going through with the purchase.....hell, it could be
> anything? On EBay, he doesn't have the option to cancel? Hell, that's no
> way to buy something....at least as far as I'm concerned anyway. I've
> obviously never used Ebay and never will. I guess it's ok for some, but
> it's definitely NOT my cup of tea :-)
> Dudley Henriques
> International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
> Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
> For personal email, please replace
> the z's with e's.
> dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt
>
>

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:GDDCc.100322$Sw.66446@attbi_s51...
>
> I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm
really
> surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an avionics buyer
who
> simply won't pay for the item he won.
>
> I listed our old Narco AT 50 transponder (which, BTW, we replaced with a
> Garmin GTX-327 -- a truly great unit), and my winner bid $285 for it.
>
> That was over three weeks ago, and when pressed about the status of his
> payment, the guy only responded with one sentence emails promising to
"look
> into it."
>
> I finally gave him a 24 hour deadline, which he missed, and have re-listed
> the transponder for sale.
>

Was he the only bidder? If not, did you try the second chance option for
the next highest bidder?

[Shirley]

"NW_PILOT" steven wrote:

>I run in to non paying bidders all the time act
>now file a NPBA then a FVF Credit time is limited
>in what you can do ebay is truing to make it better
>for sellers just file a non paying bidder alert on him
>11 days later leave negative feedback and
>immediately file a FVF credit to cancel the sale.

Jeez, ever hear of punctuation? The one place where you didn't really need the
period (when there was nothing more to read) was the only place you put one.
Sorry, I was too distracted trying to figure out where one sentence stopped and
another started to make sense of the actual advice.

[Newps]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
ink.net...

but I just don't get the attraction.

It's a way to easily find stuff you need. It's also a generational thing.
You're old and not expected to 'get it."


> As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale,

You have that, it's called not bidding. Ebay is best for stuff you know you
want.



> Even AFTER buying something, if I have a problem with it, I want the
> option to return it to where I bought it for full credit.

You may have this option if you buy it from a store. Many avionics shops
now sell on Ebay and provide the same services as if you called them on the
phone and bought something. If you want this then email them and ask.

[Newps]

"SeeAndAvoid" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
> 2 months after the fact this guy writes me to tell me he finally
> installed it and it doesn't work. Before I even get a chance to
> respond he leaves me my first neutral feedback on ebay, I have
> no negatives.


He bought it as is. Too bad for him. I have had negative feedback left for
me once. Big deal. The guy was a whiner and you get to respond anyways.
You think everybody that goes to Walmart is happy?


> I don't know what kind of plane or voltage he put it in, or who
> put it in for him. It wasn't dead on departure. But even if it did
> arrive DOA, which I'm still not convinced of, the neutral rating
> is not deserved as I made no claims or guarantees or warranty
> on the item, it was sold AS IS. And now if it magically starts
> working, I'm still stuck with that rating.

The rating isn't relavant as it will be overwhelmed by positive feedback.

[Robert M. Gary]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message et>...
> I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay, based
> on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
> The entire thing is set up so that the middle man (Ebay) can make money
> on a transaction. That's all well and good, for Ebay, and I'm sure this
> procedure attracts a whole bunch of people based on Ebay's financial
> position, but I just don't get the attraction.

Unless your hanger neighbor happens to be in the market for what you
are selling and is willing to pay a good price, ebay makes sense. You
have a lot of people that are bidding up the value of what you are
selling. Many of the items on ebay would never find a buyer otherwise.
Its not like you're going to put up a sign at the airport, asking if
anyone wants an old Narco radio.

-Robert

[Teacherjh]

>>
As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale, but
AFTER the sale as well.
<<

EBay is a giant tag sale, not a store.

Jose

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[Jay Honeck]

> Was he the only bidder? If not, did you try the second chance option for
> the next highest bidder?

No, there were many bidders.

I didn't know you could do a "second chance option" for the next-highest
bidder? Is there a time limit on doing that?

It would seem unlikely that the second highest bidder would still be looking
for a transponder a month later, but I suppose it was worth trying. I've
already re-listed it, though...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Rosspilot]

I've been using eBay for some time . . . have 135 positive feedbacks and no
neutrals or negatives . . . bought and sold about equally.
Never had any problem as buyer or seller.

One good thing from your post, Jay . . .
the GTX327 transponder is fantastic! I've had mine for more than 2 1/2 years
and it is a joy to fly with.

I flew up to Keene, New Hampshire today.
NH is one of the ONLY states where real fireworks can still be legally
purchased. :-)



www.Rosspilot.com

[Dave Stadt]

"Teacherjh" > wrote in message
...
> >>
> As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale, but
> AFTER the sale as well.
> <<
>
> EBay is a giant tag sale, not a store.
>
> Jose

It is actually becoming more of a store. Many retailers are using EBAY to
reach a much larger audience than a store front, catalog or even a WEB
presence could bring. It is an excellent way to bring targeted buyers and
sellers together. EBAY purchasing terms are often equal to or better than
any other method of purchase.

[Cecil Chapman]

I s'pose I've been lucky. I've bought and sold lots of stuff via ebay and
it has been a great aid to getting pilot goodies. I've even sold items for
a couple of thousand and was paid, promptly.

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- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

[Cecil Chapman]

> I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay, based
> on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
> The entire thing is set up so that the middle man (Ebay) can make money
> on a transaction. That's all well and good, for Ebay, and I'm sure this
> procedure attracts a whole bunch of people based on Ebay's financial
> position, but I just don't get the attraction.

What you're paying for is the exposure, which is nothing like any classified
ad that you could hope to place (and pay for, I'll remind you). Imagine an
ad that is seen in the entire U.S., what would that exposure be worth? The
amount that ebay receives is just a pittance when compared to what coverage
like that would otherwise cost.

You should try it!

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL
Student-IASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

[Dudley Henriques]

"Cecil Chapman" > wrote in message
. com...
> > I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay,
based
> > on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to
me.
> > The entire thing is set up so that the middle man (Ebay) can make
money
> > on a transaction. That's all well and good, for Ebay, and I'm sure
this
> > procedure attracts a whole bunch of people based on Ebay's financial
> > position, but I just don't get the attraction.
>
> What you're paying for is the exposure, which is nothing like any
classified
> ad that you could hope to place (and pay for, I'll remind you).
Imagine an
> ad that is seen in the entire U.S., what would that exposure be worth?
The
> amount that ebay receives is just a pittance when compared to what
coverage
> like that would otherwise cost.
>
> You should try it!

I completely understand the procedure. My son deals on Ebay all the
time. He's into building steam engines for trains and loves the railroad
stuff. I'm sure Ebay is exactly the right thing for many people as I
said. It's just that for someone like myself, it doesn't seen quite the
way I would want to go. I like to touch and feel and pre-use the items I
purchase. This takes people like me out of the Ebay equation.
I'm not inferring in any way that it's a bad way to buy something; just
that for me, it wouldn't be my choice at all.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

[Dudley Henriques]

"Newps" > wrote in message
...

> You're old and not expected to 'get it."

"I want you to know that I will not make age an issue of this campaign.
I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth
and inexperience."
Ronald Reagan-during a 1984 presidential debate with Walter Mondale.
:-))
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

[Cecil Chapman]

I like to touch and feel and pre-use the items I
> purchase. This takes people like me out of the Ebay equation.
> I'm not inferring in any way that it's a bad way to buy something; just
> that for me, it wouldn't be my choice at all.
> Dudley Henriques

Oh I see what you mean,,, no, ebay doesn't allow for a 'hands-on' sale,,, I
think my dad would feel the same way, could never even get him to order via
mail order catalog... He'd want to be able to pick-up and look at a given
thing....


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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL
Student-IASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
> "I want you to know that I will not make age an issue of this campaign.
> I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth
> and inexperience."
> Ronald Reagan-during a 1984 presidential debate with Walter Mondale.
>

Probably the best presidential debate response ever. Mondale laughed, but
behind that laugh he had to be thinking, "Damn, that sonofabitch really
nailed me with that one!"

[Jim Fisher]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
> As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale, but
> AFTER the sale as well. If I'm thinking of buying something I don't need
> anyone telling me I can't change my mind, even up to the point of sale.
> Even AFTER buying something, if I have a problem with it, I want the
> option to return it to where I bought it for full credit.

Then go to Wal-Mart and stay the heck away from Ebay you big silly!

I've bought and sold much computer stuff and only occasionally get a raw
deal and have never once dished out a raw deal. Overall it's a great deal
for the buyer and seller.

But make no mistake, it's not Wal-Mart. EBay is simply an electronic flea
market.

Caveat emptor.

--
Jim Fisher

[Brad Z]

His posts are pretty awful to read. I wouldn't want to be his english
teacher.

"Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> Jeez, ever hear of punctuation? The one place where you didn't really need
the
> period (when there was nothing more to read) was the only place you put
one.
> Sorry, I was too distracted trying to figure out where one sentence
stopped and
> another started to make sense of the actual advice.
>

[Andrew Sarangan]

Ebay is not for buying stuff that you can buy at your local store. It is
for buying and selling hard to find items. It works great. As you
described, it is really a middle man and it puts the buyer and seller in
contact. If you don't like the idea of a middle man, I suppose you must
also not like newpapers and ads etc.. I have sold quite a few items on
ebay. I have also bought some pretty expensive items. I bought a $75k
piece of test equipment for $6k. Another $50k equipment for $4k. All were
used and solds as is with no warranty. For me, the risk was worth taking.
It may not be so for everyone. If you want return and refund priviledges,
then you have to pay full price through a regular merchant.




"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in news:1gFCc.25136
:

>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:GDDCc.100322$Sw.66446@attbi_s51...
>> I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm
> really
>> surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an avionics
> buyer who
>> simply won't pay for the item he won.
>>
>> I listed our old Narco AT 50 transponder (which, BTW, we replaced with
> a
>> Garmin GTX-327 -- a truly great unit), and my winner bid $285 for it.
>>
>> That was over three weeks ago, and when pressed about the status of
> his
>> payment, the guy only responded with one sentence emails promising to
> "look
>> into it."
>>
>> I finally gave him a 24 hour deadline, which he missed, and have
> re-listed
>> the transponder for sale.
>>
>> This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy
> and
>> painless.
>>
>> Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?
>
> I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay, based
> on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to
me.
> The entire thing is set up so that the middle man (Ebay) can make money
> on a transaction. That's all well and good, for Ebay, and I'm sure this
> procedure attracts a whole bunch of people based on Ebay's financial
> position, but I just don't get the attraction.
> As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale, but
> AFTER the sale as well. If I'm thinking of buying something I don't
need
> anyone telling me I can't change my mind, even up to the point of sale.
> Even AFTER buying something, if I have a problem with it, I want the
> option to return it to where I bought it for full credit. I've been
> buying this way for many years and have never had a problem.
> Suppose this guy who won the bid on the transponder suffered a problem
> that prevented his going through with the purchase.....hell, it could
be
> anything? On EBay, he doesn't have the option to cancel? Hell, that's
no
> way to buy something....at least as far as I'm concerned anyway. I've
> obviously never used Ebay and never will. I guess it's ok for some, but
> it's definitely NOT my cup of tea :-)
> Dudley Henriques
> International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
> Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
> For personal email, please replace
> the z's with e's.
> dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt
>
>

[Newps]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:fKJCc.79813$2i5.13127@attbi_s52...
> > Was he the only bidder? If not, did you try the second chance option
for
> > the next highest bidder?
>
> No, there were many bidders.
>
> I didn't know you could do a "second chance option" for the next-highest
> bidder? Is there a time limit on doing that?

Just look at the list of who bid. Got stiffed by the high bidder? Go to
the next guy on the list and offer it to him for what he bid. It's cheaper
than relisting and saves time.


>
> It would seem unlikely that the second highest bidder would still be
looking
> for a transponder a month later,

The purchase should be consummated within a few days for something as cheap
as a transponder. When I sell stuff I better hear from you within 24 hours
and payment made within a few days, unless other arrangements are made. If
not then you get negative feedback and I move on.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Brad Z wrote:
>
> I wouldn't want to be his english teacher.

What makes you think he has one?

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

[Peter Gottlieb]

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay, based
> on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.

The advantage is a large marketplace, therefore higher probability of
sellers getting the best price and buyers finding what they seek

> As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale, but
> AFTER the sale as well. If I'm thinking of buying something I don't need
> anyone telling me I can't change my mind, even up to the point of sale.
> Even AFTER buying something, if I have a problem with it, I want the
> option to return it to where I bought it for full credit. I've been
> buying this way for many years and have never had a problem.
> Suppose this guy who won the bid on the transponder suffered a problem
> that prevented his going through with the purchase.....hell, it could be
> anything? On EBay, he doesn't have the option to cancel? Hell, that's no
> way to buy something....at least as far as I'm concerned anyway. I've
> obviously never used Ebay and never will. I guess it's ok for some, but
> it's definitely NOT my cup of tea :-)

Well you just have to bid accordingly. Sometimes you can get something
cheap, sometimes a used item with no warrantee and no return priviledge goes
for more than that item new with all priviledges.

I've bought stuff I needed there and done quite well, but there is cost in
my time. Sometimes it takes losing several items before winning one.

Also, some sellers (usually businesses) will extend their full return
policies to Ebay sales. Murphy Surplus in California allowed a 30 day
return for example. But it is not fair to stiff sellers for auction fees if
you change your mind.

Know the rules of the game there and play them to your advantage if you
want. Personally I still think it is a mixed bag, but just try dealing with
Government Liquidation and you will think Ebay is fantastic.

[Dudley Henriques]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> >
> > "I want you to know that I will not make age an issue of this
campaign.
> > I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's
youth
> > and inexperience."
> > Ronald Reagan-during a 1984 presidential debate with Walter Mondale.
> >
>
> Probably the best presidential debate response ever. Mondale laughed,
but
> behind that laugh he had to be thinking, "Damn, that sonofabitch
really
> nailed me with that one!"

It broke me up! Not only the response, but the foresight Reagan's
handlers had in realizing that his age was a prime issue in the election
and anticipating an opening during the debate that would present the
opportunity for inserting this carefully constructed retort. It was
brilliant......a beautiful chess move.
I honestly believe that Mondale lost any chance he had for the
Presidency during that moment! (If indeed he ever had a chance :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

[Dudley Henriques]

"Cecil Chapman" > wrote in message
...
> I like to touch and feel and pre-use the items I
> > purchase. This takes people like me out of the Ebay equation.
> > I'm not inferring in any way that it's a bad way to buy something;
just
> > that for me, it wouldn't be my choice at all.
> > Dudley Henriques
>
> Oh I see what you mean,,, no, ebay doesn't allow for a 'hands-on'
sale,,, I
> think my dad would feel the same way, could never even get him to
order via
> mail order catalog... He'd want to be able to pick-up and look at a
given
> thing....

Yeah.......us "older types" like the feeling of dealing with an
established source when buying the expensive stuff! We like that ole'
"human factor" at the other end if things don't work out quite as
advertised. Actually, I might even be an exception to this, as during my
tenure in aviation, when I bought something, it was usually VERY
expensive, and the company usually sent a representative to me instead
of the other way around :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt
:-)

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> "NW_PILOT" steven wrote:
>
> >I run in to non paying bidders all the time act
> >now file a NPBA then a FVF Credit time is limited
> >in what you can do ebay is truing to make it better
> >for sellers just file a non paying bidder alert on him
> >11 days later leave negative feedback and
> >immediately file a FVF credit to cancel the sale.
>
> Jeez, ever hear of punctuation? The one place where you didn't really need
the
> period (when there was nothing more to read) was the only place you put
one.
> Sorry, I was too distracted trying to figure out where one sentence
stopped and
> another started to make sense of the actual advice.

He's writing UseNet postings, not scholastic treatises.

[Dudley Henriques]

"Jim Fisher" > wrote in message
...
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
> > As a buyer, I want cancellation privilege not only before the sale,
but
> > AFTER the sale as well. If I'm thinking of buying something I don't
need
> > anyone telling me I can't change my mind, even up to the point of
sale.
> > Even AFTER buying something, if I have a problem with it, I want the
> > option to return it to where I bought it for full credit.
>
> Then go to Wal-Mart and stay the heck away from Ebay you big silly!
>
> I've bought and sold much computer stuff and only occasionally get a
raw
> deal and have never once dished out a raw deal. Overall it's a great
deal
> for the buyer and seller.
>
> But make no mistake, it's not Wal-Mart. EBay is simply an electronic
flea
> market.

Why do you think my personal business preferences seem to indicate some
degree of naïveté about Ebay that needs "corrective" under posting? I
understand Ebay quite well. I just prefer not doing business in this
manner. You sound like people who don't prefer Ebay need a Jim Fisher
education. I'll throw a smiley thing on this for you anyway
Jim......how's that? :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Brad Z" > wrote in message
news:o2MCc.177542$Ly.153404@attbi_s01...
> His posts are pretty awful to read. I wouldn't want to be his english
> teacher.
>
His "English" teacher!!

Go sit in the corner!!

[G. Burkhart]

"Shirley" > wrote in message
...
> "NW_PILOT" steven wrote:
>
> >I run in to non paying bidders all the time act
> >now file a NPBA then a FVF Credit time is limited
> >in what you can do ebay is truing to make it better
> >for sellers just file a non paying bidder alert on him
> >11 days later leave negative feedback and
> >immediately file a FVF credit to cancel the sale.
>
> Jeez, ever hear of punctuation? The one place where you didn't really need
the
> period (when there was nothing more to read) was the only place you put
one.
> Sorry, I was too distracted trying to figure out where one sentence
stopped and
> another started to make sense of the actual advice.

If he is a NW pilot, he's lucky to find the right airport, let alone find
the punctuation keys...

[VideoGuy]

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
> I flew up to Keene, New Hampshire today.
> NH is one of the ONLY states where real fireworks can still be legally
> purchased. :-)
>
>
>
> www.Rosspilot.com

Can you define "real" fireworks please? Here in easern Missouri (or Missour
AH for some of you) we have a lot of fireworks tents his time of year.
Firecrackers, rockets, roman candles, aerial displays, and the less violent
sparklers, smoke bombs, fountains and other quiet stuff.

Is there somehing more interesting (excitin' and loud) available in your
neck o' the woods?

Gary Kasten

[NW_PILOT]

Yes, my punctuation could use some work so what!


"Brad Z" > wrote in message
news:o2MCc.177542$Ly.153404@attbi_s01...
> His posts are pretty awful to read. I wouldn't want to be his english
> teacher.
>
> "Shirley" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Jeez, ever hear of punctuation? The one place where you didn't really
need
> the
> > period (when there was nothing more to read) was the only place you put
> one.
> > Sorry, I was too distracted trying to figure out where one sentence
> stopped and
> > another started to make sense of the actual advice.
> >
>
>

[NW_PILOT]

"G. Burkhart" > wrote in message
news:6ENCc.106822$eu.79600@attbi_s02...
> "Shirley" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "NW_PILOT" steven wrote:
> >
> > >I run in to non paying bidders all the time act
> > >now file a NPBA then a FVF Credit time is limited
> > >in what you can do ebay is truing to make it better
> > >for sellers just file a non paying bidder alert on him
> > >11 days later leave negative feedback and
> > >immediately file a FVF credit to cancel the sale.
> >
> > Jeez, ever hear of punctuation? The one place where you didn't really
need
> the
> > period (when there was nothing more to read) was the only place you put
> one.
> > Sorry, I was too distracted trying to figure out where one sentence
> stopped and
> > another started to make sense of the actual advice.
>
> If he is a NW pilot, he's lucky to find the right airport, let alone find
> the punctuation keys...
>
>

Let see I have bad punctuation and some one needs to learn geography! Ohh!!!
I have never landed at the wrong airport.

[Cub Driver]

Jay, check out this eBay page on non-paying bidders:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/npb.html


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org

[Cub Driver]

>The entire thing is set up so that the middle man (Ebay) can make money
>on a transaction.

Now, that's not really so terrible, is it? eBay flourishes because it
provides a service that people want, both the sellers and the buyers,
and they are willing to give up a part of their transaction in
exchange for that service. Willing buyer, willing seller. That's what
capitalism is all about.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org

[Cub Driver]

>I flew up to Keene, New Hampshire today.
>NH is one of the ONLY states where real fireworks can still be legally
>purchased. :-)

I drove down to Afton WY from Jackson one time for a ride in a Husky.
Lonely road! I was especially bemused by the sign in front of a
roadside enterprise: FIREWORKS AND REAL ESTATE.



all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org

[Richard Russell]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:16:50 -0700, "NW_PILOT" >
wrote:

>Yes, my punctuation could use some work so what!
>
>
>"Brad Z" > wrote in message
>news:o2MCc.177542$Ly.153404@attbi_s01...
>> His posts are pretty awful to read. I wouldn't want to be his english
>> teacher.
>>
snipped...

The "so what" is that you are losing a significant portion of your
audience. I've read some very interesting posts from you but some of
them take so much work to decipher that I give up and move on. If
you're going to take the time to post, and actually want someone to
read it, take the time and effort to make it readable. You clearly
have the capability of doing exactly that. We all make punctuation
and spelling errors. This is not a grammar class, but some level of
readability is warranted. Keep posting but use some of these: .,?""!
Rich Russell

[Dudley Henriques]

"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
. 158...

>If you want return and refund priviledges,
> then you have to pay full price through a regular merchant.

Not necessarily true ....at least not in my case anyway. I seldom buy
retail. In fact, with my business contacts I usually buy at the lowest
wholesale levels on most everything......but that's just me.
It is true however, that people not favoring a transaction like that
found on Ebay should be prepared and willing to pay any additional cost
involved to insure return and refund privilege.
It's a matter of perspective and business preference, not a matter of
"if you don't use Ebay...you need to be educated"
There are those in this world who will take a 75 grand risk to buy a
piece of equipment on Ebay. There are also those in this world who are
capable of working a VERY nice deal on the same piece of equipment
through normal channels and at 0 risk. It's all in how you play the
game. :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

[Dudley Henriques]

"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> >The entire thing is set up so that the middle man (Ebay) can make
money
> >on a transaction.
>
> Now, that's not really so terrible, is it? eBay flourishes because it
> provides a service that people want, both the sellers and the buyers,
> and they are willing to give up a part of their transaction in
> exchange for that service. Willing buyer, willing seller. That's what
> capitalism is all about.

I have no problem with Ebay being a middle man. I just don't need this
particular middleman when I do business. If Ebay is your thing, by all
means use it. I simply prefer to take my capitalism elsewhere, and have
found avoiding Ebay more in line with my business practices. I don't
believe this has anything at all to do with one's understanding of
capitalism.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

[DanH]

NW_PILOT wrote:
>
> I run in to non paying bidders all the time act now file a NPBA then a FVF
> Credit time is limited in what you can do ebay is truing to make it better
> for sellers just file a non paying bidder alert on him 11 days later leave
> negative feedback and immediately file a FVF credit to cancel the sale.
>
> Non Paying Bidder Alert
> http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?NPBComplaintForm
>
> Final Value Fee Credit Request
> http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?CreditRequest
>
[original post snipped]

This guy posted some good Ebay info, but that's awfully harsh reading.
Throw some commas and periods around.

[[email protected]]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 03:21:10 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
> wrote:

>It broke me up! Not only the response, but the foresight Reagan's
>handlers had in realizing that his age was a prime issue in the election
>and anticipating an opening during the debate that would present the
>opportunity for inserting this carefully constructed retort. It was
>brilliant......a beautiful chess move.

The man once earned a living as an actor. No one ever claimed he was
a great actor, but he did know how to deliver a line properly. In
life unlike in the movies, you don't get as many takes as necessary to
get the retort right. We'll never know how often he practiced the
response with his debating coaches, but it seemed fairly obvious it
was a rehearsed line.

What's scary about Reagan is that there were reports of him falling
asleep during meetings, and then there was the issue of his Altzeimers
disease. It was diagnosed shortly after he left office. Think it
came on suddenly right after he retired? Knowing what I know about
aging and progressive dimensia, of which Altzeimers is merely one of
many related diseases, I doubt it. I think the only question is how
long had it been affecting him.

Corky Scott

[Andrew Gideon]

Dudley Henriques wrote:

> It was
> brilliant......a beautiful chess move.

Mondale could have asked how his opponent felt about mandatory retirement
ages. I'm not sure that this would have gone anywhere useful for anyone,
but it would have been...fun.

- Andrew

[Peter R.]

Jay Honeck ) wrote:

> Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?

With seventeen ebay seller auctions under my belt, I have had two non-
paying bidders. In both cases, I kept all of my email exchanges with the
deadbeats (stored in their own mail folders under Outlook) and documented
my attempts to collect as evidence, then left negative feedback.

In one case, the NPB was an AOL subscriber and would not reply to any of my
emails, so I downloaded AOL's Instant Messenger and configured it to alert
me when he signed on to AOL. When he signed on, I immediately IM'ed him to
ask if he planned on paying for the auction. He told me to take a hike, so
I saved the IM conversation and stored it with my email documentation, then
re-listed the auction.

In his negative feedback, I included a note encouraging prospective sellers
to contact me for information about this bidder. One seller did. Upon
learning of my IM conversation, the seller canceled this sorry sap's bid on
the seller's auction. Soon thereafter I noticed that both of my NPB's
userid's were delisted from eBay.

I have heard of "retaliatory feedback," whereby a non-paying bidder gives
the seller bad feedback in retaliation for receiving bad feedback. There
really is no protection for this other than the "respond to feedback"
option, where you can leave a response to the negative feedback left by a
NPB. Such is eBay...

--
Peter














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[DanH]

Dudley Henriques wrote:
>
> "Newps" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > You're old and not expected to 'get it."
>
> "I want you to know that I will not make age an issue of this campaign.
> I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth
> and inexperience."
> Ronald Reagan-during a 1984 presidential debate with Walter Mondale.
> :-))
> Dudley Henriques
> International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
> Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
> For personal email, please replace
> the z's with e's.
> dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

I..... disliked Reagan...(trying to be nice here). But that was a great
line, and he was awesome at delivering them.

Oh man, I miss the days when a President could string more than three
words together and not trip on his face.

Dan.

[Tom Sixkiller]

"DanH" > wrote in message
...
>
> I..... disliked Reagan...(trying to be nice here). But that was a great
> line, and he was awesome at delivering them.
>
> Oh man, I miss the days when a President could string more than three
> words together and not trip on his face.
>
I miss the days when people paid far more attention to WHAT was said then
HOW it was said.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

> wrote in message
...
>
> What's scary about Reagan is that there were reports of him falling
> asleep during meetings, and then there was the issue of his Altzeimers
> disease. It was diagnosed shortly after he left office. Think it
> came on suddenly right after he retired? Knowing what I know about
> aging and progressive dimensia, of which Altzeimers is merely one of
> many related diseases, I doubt it. I think the only question is how
> long had it been affecting him.
>

What's "progressive dimensia"?

[Brad Z]

I knew I'd get nailed for that!

"Tom Sixkiller" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Brad Z" > wrote in message
> news:o2MCc.177542$Ly.153404@attbi_s01...
> > His posts are pretty awful to read. I wouldn't want to be his english
> > teacher.
> >
> His "English" teacher!!
>
> Go sit in the corner!!
>
>

[Peter Gottlieb]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
>
> What's "progressive dimensia"?
>


All your life you are living in 2 dimensions then you get your pilot's
license and you are then working in 3 dimensions.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Peter Gottlieb" > wrote in message
t...
>
> All your life you are living in 2 dimensions then you get your pilot's
> license and you are then working in 3 dimensions.
>

Oh, yeah. Now that you mention it, I did feel kinda flat before learning to
fly.

[[email protected]]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:05:14 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
> wrote:

>What's "progressive dimensia"?

Mispelled progressive dementia.

Corky (But you knew that) Scott

[Steven P. McNicoll]

> wrote in message
...
>
> Mispelled progressive dementia.
>
> Corky (But you knew that) Scott
>

That's what I thought. I also think that anyone that really knows something
about aging and progressive dementia would know how to spell dementia.

[Steve Foley]

Because you started by saying

"I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay, based
on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to me."

"Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
link.net...

> Why do you think my personal business preferences seem to indicate some
> degree of naïveté about Ebay that needs "corrective" under posting? I
> understand Ebay quite well.

[Dudley Henriques]

Well, you could take it that way of course. You could also take it as an
understanding so great about Ebay and how it works that it's a complete
puzzlement as to why people would want to use it.
Actually, my statement was meant to convey something somewhere in
between :-) I understand Ebay, and I understand why people use it. It's
just that it's not my personal style, No biggie really, just some
reflective comment. :-)
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt
"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
...
> Because you started by saying
>
> "I must be missing something about the "advantages" of using Ebay,
based
> on it's tremendous popularity, but it just doesn't make any sense to
me."
>
> "Dudley Henriques" > wrote in message
> link.net...
>
> > Why do you think my personal business preferences seem to indicate
some
> > degree of naïveté about Ebay that needs "corrective" under posting?
I
> > understand Ebay quite well.
>
>

[G.R. Patterson III]

Cub Driver wrote:
>
> I was especially bemused by the sign in front of a
> roadside enterprise: FIREWORKS AND REAL ESTATE.

Hey, that's a great deal. They'll sell you the fireworks *and* a place to set them
off!

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

[Peter Gottlieb]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Cub Driver wrote:
> >
> > I was especially bemused by the sign in front of a
> > roadside enterprise: FIREWORKS AND REAL ESTATE.
>
> Hey, that's a great deal. They'll sell you the fireworks *and* a place to
set them
> off!
>


....and a new place to live once you burn the first place down.

[Jack Allison]

My gosh, a diplomatic reply...on usenet no less. The planets must be
aligned properly or something... :-)

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL, IA Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Rosspilot]

>> NH is one of the ONLY states where real fireworks can still be legally
>> purchased. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>Can you define "real" fireworks please? Here in easern Missouri (or Missour
>AH for some of you) we have a lot of fireworks tents his time of year.
>Firecrackers, rockets, roman candles, aerial displays, and the less violent
>sparklers, smoke bombs, fountains and other quiet stuff.
>
>Is there somehing more interesting (excitin' and loud) available in your
>neck o' the woods?
>


In New Hampshire, you can still purchase the real mortars and big stuff used by
Zambelli and the other pros . . . the stuff used in the big city 4th of July
shows.

They used to be available in Pennsylvania, but a few years ago, those were
outlawed there, too.


www.Rosspilot.com

[Marty]

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...

> In New Hampshire, you can still purchase the real mortars and big stuff
used by
> Zambelli and the other pros . . . the stuff used in the big city 4th of
July
> shows.
>
> They used to be available in Pennsylvania, but a few years ago, those were
> outlawed there, too.
>
>
> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>

You can buy them in any state, you just need an ATF permit or license (there
is a difference) and approved storage.
Setting them of is under the jurisdiction of the local fire department.
Display fireworks are not outlawed in any state.

Marty
www.premierpyro.com

[Rosspilot]

>www.premierpyro.com


LOL! I certainly won't argue the point with you. You should know. :-)





www.Rosspilot.com

[Marty]

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
> >www.premierpyro.com
>
>
> LOL! I certainly won't argue the point with you. You should know. :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>

Ross,

In all reality, it used to be that if you were a resident of a state that
had a distributor of commercial fireworks, you could "cash & carry". You
simply filled out the ATF form similar to a firearm purchase.
Since 9/11, all purchasers must be permitted or licensed effective May 24
2003.
A three year license costs about a hundred bucks, a drop in the bucket for
guys that spend thousands of $ on pyro.

Then there is the D.O.T. and insurance, but that is another story... ;-)

To keep this about aviation......
We have a company plane that during this time of year gets a real work out.
The computerized firing system we use for large displays exceeds $100,000.
The math is simple, fly one system from site to site, or purchase 3 more
systems!

Then there is the "off season" ;-P

Marty

[David Johnson]

How about being stiffed by a seller?

I have both bought and sold a lot of stuff on eBay - with generally
excellent results. One guy sent me the wrong avionics unit by mistake -
and then sent the right one as soon as he had discovered his mistake
(before I had even received the first). He told me to keep both!

However, recently I bought a navcomm that was allegedly in good shape -
the seller "guaranteed" it (supposedly). It was the same as one I
already have in my plane, so there should be no problem checking it
out. I pulled the old one out (which works) and slid the new one
in and -- nothing. It came with a mounting tray with marked leads,
so I tried it on the bench. Still nothing. No doubt about it being DOA.

Contacted the seller and he agreed to take it back. Sent it back to
him and he acknowledged that it was defective. However, getting
my money back is another matter. In addition to paying shipping both
ways, he wants me to pay his eBay auction fee and give him positive
feedback besides! No way, Jose! I expect to pay the shipping, but
the auction fees are his responsibility. Feedback (which I rarely
indulge in) is the truth as to how I feel about the transaction, and
not subject to anyone's coercion.

I'd like to nail this guy if he fails to see the error of his ways.
Any suggestions?

David Johnson

[Teacherjh]

>> I expect to pay the shipping...

For a unit that's DOA? I wouldn't.

Jose


--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

[Big John]

Jay

I have an OLD Narco AT5-A Transponder (head and main unit) that has
been sitting in my garage for a long time. Some corrosion on outside
from Houston humidity.

PROBABLY ONLY GOOD FOR PARTS????

Will give to anyone who pays the packing and postage. Probably
$15-$20???

I just hate too see pieces go in the garbage can if anyone can use.

Was the corn knee high by the 4th of July?

See where Chariton got $175,000 for their airport from Gvt this year
:o)

John


On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:50:46 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>I've only sold two items on Ebay (I've bought a lot, though), so I'm really
>surprised (and saddened) to report that I've run into an avionics buyer who
>simply won't pay for the item he won.
>
>I listed our old Narco AT 50 transponder (which, BTW, we replaced with a
>Garmin GTX-327 -- a truly great unit), and my winner bid $285 for it.
>
>That was over three weeks ago, and when pressed about the status of his
>payment, the guy only responded with one sentence emails promising to "look
>into it."
>
>I finally gave him a 24 hour deadline, which he missed, and have re-listed
>the transponder for sale.
>
>This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy and
>painless.
>
>Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?

[John Gaquin]

"Big John" > wrote in message > >
> >This is a first for me -- all of my other transactions have been easy and
> >painless.
> >
> >Have I just been lucky? Anyone else run into this on Ebay?
>

In my family we have bought and sold many things via ebay, with nary a
problem. Give him a hard negative feedback, so others can avoid him.

[Jay Honeck]

> I have an OLD Narco AT5-A Transponder (head and main unit) that has
> been sitting in my garage for a long time. Some corrosion on outside
> from Houston humidity.

I've seen AT5-As selling on Ebay -- usually for $30 - $40, plus shipping!
You might give it a whirl -- it's certainly better than chucking it!

> Was the corn knee high by the 4th of July?

Ha! This has been the single greatest growing season in Iowa history. To
illustrate: The corn was OVER MY HEAD on the Fourth of July!

Never seen anything like it. For once, Iowa has been not too hot, not too
dry, not too wet, not too cold, not stormy -- heck, I have not read ONE
SINGLE COMPLAINT in the paper from a farmer yet this summer!

(Not that I actually know any farmers -- Iowa City is as urban as Milwaukee,
and more cosmopolitan than Chicago. But I see one once in a while, usually
from 1500 AGL...)

Ah, shoot -- one thing is for certain: There is no such thing as a happy
farmer. I have absolute faith that soon they will be complaining once
again -- about the depressed prices caused by their bumper crop!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> In my family we have bought and sold many things via ebay, with nary a
> problem. Give him a hard negative feedback, so others can avoid him.

I did.

And I just now FINALLY got paid by the guy who bought it on my second
attempt. The winner was in THAILAND, despite my clearly stating that I
would only ship in the U.S.

He went through some gymnastics, and arranged it so that I could ship the
transponder to a friend in New Jersey -- but it still took weeks for him to
send a money order from overseas. (WHY doesn't everyone use PayPal? It's
so easy and quick....)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Rosspilot]

>WHY doesn't everyone use PayPal? It's
>so easy and quick....)

I use Paypal to pay others, but will not accept it as payment to me.

Getting your money from them is like pulling teeth. If you leave it with them,
and use it as an eBay trading fund only, it's ok.
If you want your money, forget it.



www.Rosspilot.com

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, (Rosspilot) said:
>>WHY doesn't everyone use PayPal? It's
>>so easy and quick....)
>
>I use Paypal to pay others, but will not accept it as payment to me.
>
>Getting your money from them is like pulling teeth. If you leave it with them,
>and use it as an eBay trading fund only, it's ok.
>If you want your money, forget it.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I use Paypal to accept
donations on the Waypoint Generator site, and about once every month or
two I click the button to transfer the money to my account, and 4 or 5
days later it appears in my account. The only thing that is easier is the
Amazon Honor System which puts the money in my account automatically.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of
tapes hurtling down the highway.
-- Andrew Tannenbaum possibly quoting Warren Jackson

[Rosspilot]

>(Rosspilot) said:
>>>WHY doesn't everyone use PayPal? It's
>>>so easy and quick....)
>>
>>I use Paypal to pay others, but will not accept it as payment to me.
>>
>>Getting your money from them is like pulling teeth. If you leave it with
>them,
>>and use it as an eBay trading fund only, it's ok.
>>If you want your money, forget it.
>
>I have no idea what you're talking about. I use Paypal to accept
>donations on the Waypoint Generator site, and about once every month or
>two I click the button to transfer the money to my account, and 4 or 5
>days later it appears in my account. The only thing that is easier is the
>Amazon Honor System which puts the money in my account automatically.
>


Well, Paul, I can only assume that they have cleaned up their act since my
experience (admittedly a while ago) when I made my decision. If things have
changed since 2002, I withdraw my criticism since it isn't current.


www.Rosspilot.com

[Jay Honeck]

> Well, Paul, I can only assume that they have cleaned up their act since my
> experience (admittedly a while ago) when I made my decision. If things
have
> changed since 2002, I withdraw my criticism since it isn't current.

I had no trouble with my one "PayPal receivable" transaction. The money
was there instantly, and all I had to do was either (a) spend it, or (b)
transfer it.

Sure beats screwing around waiting for a money order to arrive from
Thailand...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"