Flying to Canada in a club airplane

[Andrew Sarangan]

If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website recommends
carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club authorizing the flight.
Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this requirement. Since a club
member is actually a part owner, is the letter still necessary? I would
appreciate comments on this. Thanks.

[BTIZ]

its a recommendation to show proof that you have permission for the airplane
to be there.

if the airplane is registered to the club.. what proof do the constabularies
have that you are a member of the club?

your name is not on the registration..

BT

"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
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>
> If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website recommends
> carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club authorizing the flight.
> Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this requirement. Since a club
> member is actually a part owner, is the letter still necessary? I would
> appreciate comments on this. Thanks.

[Andrew Sarangan]

"BTIZ" > wrote in
news:ZgIIc.23514$r3.23420@okepread03:

> its a recommendation to show proof that you have permission for the
> airplane to be there.
>
> if the airplane is registered to the club.. what proof do the
> constabularies have that you are a member of the club?
>
> your name is not on the registration..
>
> BT
>
> "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> . 158...
>>
>> If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website
>> recommends carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club
>> authorizing the flight. Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this
>> requirement. Since a club member is actually a part owner, is the
>> letter still necessary? I would appreciate comments on this. Thanks.
>
>
>

True, but the name of the person signing the letter is not aircraft
registration either.

[Icebound]

"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
. 158...
> "BTIZ" > wrote in
> news:ZgIIc.23514$r3.23420@okepread03:
>
> > its a recommendation to show proof that you have permission for the
> > airplane to be there.
> >
> > if the airplane is registered to the club.. what proof do the
> > constabularies have that you are a member of the club?
> >
> > your name is not on the registration..
> >
> > BT
> >
> > "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> > . 158...
> >>
> >> If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website
> >> recommends carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club
> >> authorizing the flight. Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this
> >> requirement. Since a club member is actually a part owner, is the
> >> letter still necessary? I would appreciate comments on this. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
>
> True, but the name of the person signing the letter is not aircraft
> registration either.
>
>

No, but it IS a contact, if they should decide to check or have FAA/FBI
authorities do a check. I can see that such a letter would help you if
there was some reason that authorities suspected (unreasonably) one of the
following:

a. the plane is stolen
b. the plane is being smuggled into Canada
c. the plane is/was being used in illegal activity.

Such a suspicion is probably pretty rare, but in today's paranoid
environment..... who knows.

[Ben Jackson]

In article >,
Andrew Sarangan > wrote:
>
>If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website recommends
>carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club authorizing the flight.

I took a rental to Canada and I wasn't asked for the note on either end.
I didn't bother to have it notarized though.

--
Ben Jackson
>
http://www.ben.com/

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Andrew Sarangan > said:
>If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website recommends
>carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club authorizing the flight.
>Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this requirement. Since a club
>member is actually a part owner, is the letter still necessary? I would
>appreciate comments on this. Thanks.

I fly club aircraft into Canada fairly frequently. The customs person has
asked me once or twice who is the owner, and I say it belongs to the
Rochester Flying Club corporation, and I'm a shareholder in the
corporation. They always let it go at that.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Speed is life, altitude is life insurance. No one has ever collided with
the sky.

[Bob Chilcoat]

I took along a notarized copy of my partnership "membership certificate"
when I took our Archer to Montreal recently. No one asked to see it, but I
felt better that I had it. OTOH, I didn't have an FCC radio license, because
we had never renewed it. No one asked for that, either.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America

"Icebound" > wrote in message
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> "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> . 158...
> > "BTIZ" > wrote in
> > news:ZgIIc.23514$r3.23420@okepread03:
> >
> > > its a recommendation to show proof that you have permission for the
> > > airplane to be there.
> > >
> > > if the airplane is registered to the club.. what proof do the
> > > constabularies have that you are a member of the club?
> > >
> > > your name is not on the registration..
> > >
> > > BT
> > >
> > > "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> > > . 158...
> > >>
> > >> If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website
> > >> recommends carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club
> > >> authorizing the flight. Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this
> > >> requirement. Since a club member is actually a part owner, is the
> > >> letter still necessary? I would appreciate comments on this. Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > True, but the name of the person signing the letter is not aircraft
> > registration either.
> >
> >
>
> No, but it IS a contact, if they should decide to check or have FAA/FBI
> authorities do a check. I can see that such a letter would help you if
> there was some reason that authorities suspected (unreasonably) one of the
> following:
>
> a. the plane is stolen
> b. the plane is being smuggled into Canada
> c. the plane is/was being used in illegal activity.
>
> Such a suspicion is probably pretty rare, but in today's paranoid
> environment..... who knows.
>
>

[David Reinhart]

It's not that big a deal to come up with a letter and keep it in the
aircraft. I follow AOPA's advice on that and suggest you do, too. What's it
going to hurt?

Dave Reinhart


Andrew Sarangan wrote:

> If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website recommends
> carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club authorizing the flight.
> Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this requirement. Since a club
> member is actually a part owner, is the letter still necessary? I would
> appreciate comments on this. Thanks.

[Robert M. Gary]

> person signing the letter is not aircraft
> registration either.

I don't have my name anywhere on my aircraft registration either. I've
never been asked any questions in the U.S. or Mexico. I do carry a
letter I wrote giving myself authorization to use my airplane out of
the country just in case, but to date, I've never been asked for it.

-Robert

[tony roberts]

It isn't necessary, provided that you don't mind being turned back.
But it is a low cost, sensible piece of insurance against getting turned
back. So what's to think about? I have to go through lots of hoops
going the other direction - and I just do it. Why risk getting turned
back? These are paranoid times that we live in!

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument :)
Cessna 172H C-GICE

In article >,
Andrew Sarangan > wrote:

> If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website recommends
> carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club authorizing the flight.
> Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this requirement. Since a club
> member is actually a part owner, is the letter still necessary? I would
> appreciate comments on this. Thanks.

[Happy Dog]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, Andrew Sarangan > said:
> >If the pilot is not the owner of the airplane, AOPA's website recommends
> >carrying a notarized letter from the owner or club authorizing the
flight.
> >Everyone I spoke to has never heard of this requirement. Since a club
> >member is actually a part owner, is the letter still necessary? I would
> >appreciate comments on this. Thanks.
>
> I fly club aircraft into Canada fairly frequently. The customs person has
> asked me once or twice who is the owner, and I say it belongs to the
> Rochester Flying Club corporation, and I'm a shareholder in the
> corporation. They always let it go at that.

Just include this info in a FAXed and sighed arrival report. Call them to
confirm it's OK and get a name or badge number. Unless you've really
screwed up the information, you're fine. They're just worried that they'll
have to make you pinky-swear to return if your info's bogus.

moo