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Heico Lorenz
August 30th 04, 10:42 AM
Planning to spend some time in SE Asia, I wonder if there will be chances
to do some flying on my own in Laos or Cambodia. Does anybody have some
information?

Thanks in advance,
Heico

C Kingsbury
August 30th 04, 05:21 PM
"Heico Lorenz" > wrote in message >...
> Planning to spend some time in SE Asia, I wonder if there will be chances
> to do some flying on my own in Laos or Cambodia. Does anybody have some
> information?

I have no firsthand knowledge, but http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/
might be a good place to start. They seem to be the
largest/best-organized GA outfit in SE Asia and would most likely know
the right people to speak with. And Thailand is a wonderful country to
visit.

Best,
-cwk.

NW_PILOT
August 31st 04, 04:40 AM
That looks cool, I think I will also put that on my things to do list.


"C Kingsbury" > wrote in message
om...
> "Heico Lorenz" > wrote in message
>...
> > Planning to spend some time in SE Asia, I wonder if there will be
chances
> > to do some flying on my own in Laos or Cambodia. Does anybody have some
> > information?
>
> I have no firsthand knowledge, but http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/
> might be a good place to start. They seem to be the
> largest/best-organized GA outfit in SE Asia and would most likely know
> the right people to speak with. And Thailand is a wonderful country to
> visit.
>
> Best,
> -cwk.

Cub Driver
August 31st 04, 11:54 AM
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:42:19 +0200, "Heico Lorenz"
> wrote:

>Planning to spend some time in SE Asia, I wonder if there will be chances
>to do some flying on my own in Laos or Cambodia. Does anybody have some
>information?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Heico

You might want to buy one or more of the Defense Mapping Agency charts
of the area. They'd be entertaining even on a commercial flight. I can
give you the number of the one you want, if you want.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

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bryan chaisone
August 31st 04, 01:24 PM
"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message >...
> That looks cool, I think I will also put that on my things to do list.
>
>
> "C Kingsbury" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "Heico Lorenz" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > Planning to spend some time in SE Asia, I wonder if there will be
> chances
> > > to do some flying on my own in Laos or Cambodia. Does anybody have some
> > > information?
> >
> > I have no firsthand knowledge, but http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/
> > might be a good place to start. They seem to be the
> > largest/best-organized GA outfit in SE Asia and would most likely know
> > the right people to speak with. And Thailand is a wonderful country to
> > visit.
> >
> > Best,
> > -cwk.

Thailand yes. Laos maybe. From what I've heard, there are a lot of
hoops and hurdles before you'll be permited to fly in Laos. There is
one American gentlemen working in Laos. His name is Capt. Lee
. Maybe he can answer your questions. Laos is a
beautiful crountry to see from the ground and the air. You will
definitely have a good time there.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rogue's_gallery_a-h.htm#C
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Heico Lorenz
August 31st 04, 02:55 PM
Cub Driver wrote:

> You might want to buy one or more of the Defense Mapping Agency charts
> of the area. They'd be entertaining even on a commercial flight. I can
> give you the number of the one you want, if you want.

Yes, why not? Can they be ordered online somewhere?

--Heico

Heico Lorenz
August 31st 04, 03:01 PM
>> > I have no firsthand knowledge, but http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/
>> > might be a good place to start. They seem to be the
>> > largest/best-organized GA outfit in SE Asia and would most likely know
>> > the right people to speak with. And Thailand is a wonderful country to
>> > visit.
>>
>> That looks cool, I think I will also put that on my things to do list.
>
> Thailand yes. Laos maybe. From what I've heard, there are a lot of
> hoops and hurdles before you'll be permited to fly in Laos. There is
> one American gentlemen working in Laos. His name is Capt. Lee
> . Maybe he can answer your questions. Laos is a
> beautiful crountry to see from the ground and the air. You will
> definitely have a good time there.

Gents, that's quite valuable information. I will contact them and maybe
people down there will soon be able to see my big smiling face some
thousand feet above them ;-)

--Heico

Tony Cox
August 31st 04, 05:20 PM
"bryan chaisone" > wrote in message
om...
>
> Thailand yes. Laos maybe. From what I've heard, there are a lot of
> hoops and hurdles before you'll be permited to fly in Laos. There is
> one American gentlemen working in Laos. His name is Capt. Lee
> . Maybe he can answer your questions.

Understand that his male member will no doubt be over 6 feet
long if he responds to even half of those penis-enlargement-ads
he'll be getting now you've **published his e-mail address on
a newsgroup**!! Grrrrr. Hate it when people do that!

Pot Kettle Black
August 31st 04, 05:42 PM
> >"bryan chaisone" > wrote in message >

> > His name is Capt. Lee


> Tony Cox > wrote:

> Hate it when people do that!

I agree Tony...... Bad bad Bryan.

Now Tony - Why don't you come back to the group and tell us all why it
was so important for you to repost Captain Lee's e-mail addy yourself,
when you were chastising bad bad Bryan for posting it in the first
place.

Isn't that kinda like the Pot calling the Kettle Black

Tony Cox
August 31st 04, 06:59 PM
"Pot Kettle Black" > wrote in message
...
>
> Now Tony - Why don't you come back to the group and tell us all why it
> was so important for you to repost Captain Lee's e-mail addy yourself,
> when you were chastising bad bad Bryan for posting it in the first
> place.

Doh!! Perhaps I've got a subliminal need to see him with a 9
foot pecker??

bryan chaisone
August 31st 04, 08:48 PM
Heico,

Don't carry anything that might make you look like a CIA or DOD spy.
Laos is still a very shy and cautious country when it comes to
foreigners (and who can blame them?) People still end up 'missing' or
jailed for poking in the wrong places.

Regards,
Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rogue's_gallery_a-h.htm#C
scroll down to bryan chaisone

"Heico Lorenz" > wrote in message >...
> Cub Driver wrote:
>
> > You might want to buy one or more of the Defense Mapping Agency charts
> > of the area. They'd be entertaining even on a commercial flight. I can
> > give you the number of the one you want, if you want.
>
> Yes, why not? Can they be ordered online somewhere?
>
> --Heico

bryan chaisone
August 31st 04, 08:54 PM
(C Kingsbury) wrote in message >...
>
> I have no firsthand knowledge, but http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/
> might be a good place to start. They seem to be the
> largest/best-organized GA outfit in SE Asia and would most likely know
> the right people to speak with. And Thailand is a wonderful country to
> visit.
>
> Best,
> -cwk.

I second that 100%

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/rogue's_gallery_a-h.htm#C
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Richard Herring
August 31st 04, 10:13 PM
In article >, C
Kingsbury > wrote
>"Heico Lorenz" > wrote in message
>...
>> Planning to spend some time in SE Asia, I wonder if there will be chances
>> to do some flying on my own in Laos or Cambodia. Does anybody have some
>> information?
>
>I have no firsthand knowledge, but http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/
>might be a good place to start. They seem to be the
>largest/best-organized GA outfit in SE Asia and would most likely know
>the right people to speak with. And Thailand is a wonderful country to
>visit.

Seconded, but they must rank pretty much equally with the Chiang Mai
Flying Club
(http://www.cmflyingclub.com/.) I get the impression which one's better
at any particular time depends on where the instructors have migrated
to.

--
Richard Herring >

Heico Lorenz
September 1st 04, 08:45 AM
bryan chaisone wrote:

> Don't carry anything that might make you look like a CIA or DOD spy.
> Laos is still a very shy and cautious country when it comes to
> foreigners (and who can blame them?) People still end up 'missing' or
> jailed for poking in the wrong places.

Huh, sounds scary ;-) After their history, I can understand this
partially, but is it really that bad?

Regards,
Heico

Cub Driver
September 1st 04, 11:41 AM
ONC J-10 is most of Burma and the NE knob of Laos.

ONC K-10 is most of Cambodia and southern Laos

ONC J-11 is northern Vietnam and most of Laos

Sorry they're so cut up! The latter two cover most of what you're
interested in.

MA Combart Support Center
ATTN: DDCP
Washington DC 20315-0020

But doesn't Sporty's sell them?

Have fun! I was in Vietnam as a reporter in 1964. I loved the country,
thoght the mountain scenery was spectacular, and enjoyed the people,
especially the mountain tribesmen.



On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:55:19 +0200, "Heico Lorenz"
> wrote:

>Cub Driver wrote:
>
>> You might want to buy one or more of the Defense Mapping Agency charts
>> of the area. They'd be entertaining even on a commercial flight. I can
>> give you the number of the one you want, if you want.
>
>Yes, why not? Can they be ordered online somewhere?
>
>--Heico

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

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bryan chaisone
September 1st 04, 01:18 PM
"Tony Cox" > wrote in message et>...

> Understand that his male member will no doubt be over 6 feet
> long if he responds to even half of those penis-enlargement-ads
> he'll be getting now you've **published his e-mail address on
> a newsgroup**!! Grrrrr. Hate it when people do that!

Whoops! my bad...

Bryan

bryan chaisone
September 2nd 04, 12:48 AM
"Heico Lorenz" > wrote in message >...
> bryan chaisone wrote:
>
> > Don't carry anything that might make you look like a CIA or DOD spy.
> > Laos is still a very shy and cautious country when it comes to
> > foreigners (and who can blame them?) People still end up 'missing' or
> > jailed for poking in the wrong places.
>
> Huh, sounds scary ;-) After their history, I can understand this
> partially, but is it really that bad?
>
> Regards,
> Heico

Better safe than sorry. There are still activities, although small,
as recent as a few months ago. I think things are a little better
lately. Laos recently received their NTR status. That should help.

Regards,
Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

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