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Ditch
September 20th 04, 01:33 AM
>At least I think that's a back seater, as one clip shows two parachutes for a
>brief
>second.
Just one...it is..er..was a single seat Viper.
He did a good job, tho. Hats off.
-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*
Newps
September 20th 04, 02:51 AM
Ditch wrote:
>>At least I think that's a back seater, as one clip shows two parachutes for a
>>brief
>>second.
>
>
> Just one...it is..er..was a single seat Viper.
> He did a good job, tho. Hats off.
All the raging debate over crash video and all he can come up with is
video that crappy looking? What was it shot with, his Mom's Super 8?
Ditch
September 20th 04, 04:12 AM
> What was it shot with, his Mom's Super 8?
>
Are you serious? It was amatuer video shot in Korea that was shown on the news.
-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*
Iwan Bogels
September 20th 04, 06:30 AM
"Newps" > schreef in bericht
...
>
>
> Ditch wrote:
> >>At least I think that's a back seater, as one clip shows two parachutes
for a
> >>brief
> >>second.
> >
> >
> > Just one...it is..er..was a single seat Viper.
> > He did a good job, tho. Hats off.
>
> All the raging debate over crash video and all he can come up with is
> video that crappy looking? What was it shot with, his Mom's Super 8?
>
Yeah, next time an aircraft is expected to crash I hope they set up
professional camera's at various different angles from the crash scene, do
slow motion replays, add exciting comments when approaching the end zone for
"touchdown" and zoom in on the faces of the pilots just like they do at the
Super Bowl !!
GET REAL !!!!!
Iwan
http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm
Maule Driver
September 20th 04, 07:56 PM
How does everyone seem to know that the pilot risked his life staying with
the plane until clear of hazard areas?
"Chris Schmelzer" > wrote in message
...
> Excellent pilot work (as previously discussed). Pilot did his duty and
> risked his own life to protect life and property of civilians
G.R. Patterson III
September 20th 04, 08:36 PM
Maule Driver wrote:
>
> How does everyone seem to know that the pilot risked his life staying with
> the plane until clear of hazard areas?
Well, the pilot seemed to survive in this case, so you can just ask (and adjust the
answer by the appropriate BS factor).
In the general sense, though, there *do* seem to be a lot of cases in which witnesses
talk about how this "great pilot" avoided the subdivision/school/high-rise/whatever
when a look at the detailed NTSB report shows this was just the luck of the draw.
George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.
David CL Francis
September 22nd 04, 11:12 PM
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 at 19:36:39 in message
>, G.R. Patterson III
> wrote:
>In the general sense, though, there *do* seem to be a lot of cases in which witnesses
>talk about how this "great pilot" avoided the subdivision/school/high-rise/whatever
>when a look at the detailed NTSB report shows this was just the luck of the draw.
When I used to talk to my father, who was a pre-WW2 RAF pilot, he used
to say that media reports of witnesses of aircraft crashes nearly always
had 3 characteristics in his experience.
1. The engine was making a funny noise.
2. The pilot was struggling or fighting with the controls.
3. The pilot fought to avoid catastrophe by turning away from the
[school], [hospital], [cinema], [football stadium]... fill in
your own appropriate object.
As my father used to say, 'what pilot would not try and avoid any large
building in an emergency, regardless of its content?'
Well the world has changed quite a bit, but not that much!
--
David CL Francis
Gary G
September 24th 04, 02:42 PM
Newps > wrote in
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They have to compress it to make the viewing reasonable via the net!
Give me a break!
It seems as though you don't know much about video compression
for reasonable viewing . . .
>
>
> Ditch wrote:
>
> All the raging debate over crash video and all he can come up with is
> video that crappy looking? What was it shot with, his Mom's Super 8?
>
Newps
September 24th 04, 09:40 PM
Gary G wrote:
> Newps > wrote in
> :
>
> They have to compress it to make the viewing reasonable via the net!
> Give me a break!
> It seems as though you don't know much about video compression
> for reasonable viewing . . .
I work enough with my own video editing and DVD burning to know that
that video was junk. Has nothing to do with compression. Garbage in,
garbage out.
Chris Schmelzer
September 29th 04, 08:34 PM
In article >,
Newps > wrote:
> Gary G wrote:
>
> > Newps > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > They have to compress it to make the viewing reasonable via the net!
> > Give me a break!
> > It seems as though you don't know much about video compression
> > for reasonable viewing . . .
>
> I work enough with my own video editing and DVD burning to know that
> that video was junk. Has nothing to do with compression. Garbage in,
> garbage out.
Wow, and you are welcome...geez
Guess you need to do PROFESSIONAL LEVEL video compression as a hobbyist
to survive around here!
--
Chris Schmelzer, MD
Capt, 110th Fighter Michigan ANG
University of Michigan Hospitals
Ann Arbor, MI
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