Will DCA ever be open to GA?

[AFisher]

Does anyone know if National Airport will ever be open to GA?

[G.R. Patterson III]

AFisher wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if National Airport will ever be open to GA?

Security people and the military are claiming that "nobody seriously argues anymore
that the DC ADIZ isn't necessary." High ranking military officers are on record as
stating that this is a Good Thing. That indicates to me that National will never
again be open to GA.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
> Security people and the military are claiming that "nobody seriously
> argues anymore
> that the DC ADIZ isn't necessary." High ranking military officers are on
> record as
> stating that this is a Good Thing. That indicates to me that National will
> never
> again be open to GA.
>

Different issues. You can open Reagan to GA traffic and still maintain the
ADIZ.

[Dave Butler]

AFisher wrote:
> Does anyone know if National Airport will ever be open to GA?

Nope, nobody knows.

[G.R. Patterson III]

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
>
> Different issues. You can open Reagan to GA traffic and still maintain the
> ADIZ.

True, but I believe that the attitude I described will keep Reagan closed.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

[Jay Masino]

Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> "G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
>> Security people and the military are claiming that "nobody seriously
>> argues anymore
>> that the DC ADIZ isn't necessary." High ranking military officers are on
>> record as
>> stating that this is a Good Thing. That indicates to me that National will
>> never
>> again be open to GA.
>>
>
> Different issues. You can open Reagan to GA traffic and still maintain the
> ADIZ.

Yea. but (1) is shows a mind set, and (2) it would be a pain in the butt
with the present FRZ requirements. A small group of people would go thru
the background checks, and those would be the only people using National.
It barely seems worth arguing for.

--- Jay




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[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Jay Masino" > wrote in message
...
>
> Yea. but (1) is shows a mind set, and (2) it would be a pain in the butt
> with the present FRZ requirements. A small group of people would go thru
> the background checks, and those would be the only people using National.
> It barely seems worth arguing for.
>

That may be, but even a small group using it bolsters the position that GA
is not a threat. Ya gotta walk before ya can run.

[Peter MacPherson]

I'd be happy if they'd just re-open College Park. That
"was" a great airport.


"AFisher" > wrote in message
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> Does anyone know if National Airport will ever be open to GA?
>
>

[Jay Masino]

Ain't that the truth. Of course, if you're willing to go through the
rectal exam, you can use College Park.

Peter MacPherson > wrote:
> I'd be happy if they'd just re-open College Park. That
> "was" a great airport.

> "AFisher" > wrote in message
> news:ijB4d.655$Jj4.60@trnddc06...
>> Does anyone know if National Airport will ever be open to GA?
>>
>>


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[Jay Masino]

Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> "Jay Masino" > wrote in message
>> Yea. but (1) is shows a mind set, and (2) it would be a pain in the butt
>> with the present FRZ requirements. A small group of people would go thru
>> the background checks, and those would be the only people using National.
>> It barely seems worth arguing for.
>>
>
> That may be, but even a small group using it bolsters the position that GA
> is not a threat. Ya gotta walk before ya can run.

A lot of my friends are still using College Park, with a similar feeling,
but there's been absolutely no movement to setup a mechanism to allow
transients in. I suspect that the FRZ around DC will be here long after
we're 6 feet under. And that may also be true for GA access into
National. To be honest with you, I don't see what the big deal is. I've
flown in the DC area for close to 18 years. about 15 of them before
September 11th. I never felt inclined to land at National. Not even
once. For me, the things I miss the most are sight seeing flights down
the Anacostia River, and doing practice instrument approaches at Andrews.

--- Jay

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[Ron Natalie]

"AFisher" > wrote in message news:ijB4d.655$Jj4.60@trnddc06...
> Does anyone know if National Airport will ever be open to GA?
>
It is open to GA, but only in a very restricted fashion.

[Teacherjh]

>>
I've flown in the DC area for close to 18 years. about 15 of them before
September 11th. I never felt inclined to land at National. Not even
once.
<<

National is a very convenient airport. I flew in there once years ago in a
small plane with friends to attend a performance at the Kennedy Center ("Actual
Sho") and it was awesome to be able to take off from my local airstrip, land
right in the middle of DC, and take the Metro right to the gala, and then leave
that same evening and be home before midnight.

Freedom. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Jose


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[Judah]

(Teacherjh) wrote in
:

> Freedom. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

It's still a good idea. But our current regime has the wrong implementation
plan.

[Peter MacPherson]

Don't you have to be based there to even qualify for the security screening?



"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "AFisher" > wrote in message
> news:ijB4d.655$Jj4.60@trnddc06...
>> Does anyone know if National Airport will ever be open to GA?
>>
> It is open to GA, but only in a very restricted fashion.
>

[Jay Masino]

Peter MacPherson > wrote:
> Don't you have to be based there to even qualify for the security screening?

I think you need to either be elected, appointed, or the president of a
corporation that an elected/appointed official use to work for. :)

--- Jay



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[Ron Natalie]

"Peter MacPherson" > wrote in message news:fDk6d.38268$He1.32639@attbi_s01...
> Don't you have to be based there to even qualify for the security screening?
>
That's the rules for the other FRZ airports. National has it's own procedures. Of
course, the powerful get special exemption and then cause further problems for everybody
else (like the Kentucky governor).

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
"Ron Natalie" > wrote:

> "Peter MacPherson" > wrote in message
> news:fDk6d.38268$He1.32639@attbi_s01...
> > Don't you have to be based there to even qualify for the security
> > screening?
> >
> That's the rules for the other FRZ airports. National has it's own
> procedures. Of
> course, the powerful get special exemption and then cause further problems
> for everybody
> else (like the Kentucky governor).



Unfortunately, we are approaching the way things were done in the old
Soviet Union -- the powerful get special privileges while the "peasants"
are shut out.

[Ron Natalie]

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message news:orfairbairn_spam_sucks-
> Unfortunately, we are approaching the way things were done in the old
> Soviet Union -- the powerful get special privileges while the "peasants"
> are shut out.

If it wasn't for the special privileged National would have been closed decades
ago.

[bryan chaisone]

I also fly helicopters. I used to be able to fly friends to Cabin
John Bridge, call approach and tell them that I want to take rt 3(or
4, I can't remember now) and fly at 200 AGL along Potomac, continue
past CIA HQ, request left orbit around The White House, continue a
little, request left orbit around The Mall and the Capital building,
fly over Pentagon parking lot over 395 and back to Manassas, VA.
Friends visiting the area loved it as I did.

Yeah, I miss landing at College park and eat at 94th AeroSquadron.
Now I drive there to eat.

We are loosing a little more freedom everyday.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone