Nothing like a cold splash of 100LL in the face to wake up a pilot

[Peter R.]

Anyone ever get splashed in the face with 100LL while refueling at a
self-serve pump?

Today, I joined the nitwit club and was rewarded for my refueling
complacency with a cereal bowl-sized volume of 100LL splashed directly
in the face. At least I was wearing sunglasses, which kept most of the
fuel out of my eyes.


--
Peter

[Peter Duniho]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Anyone ever get splashed in the face with 100LL while refueling at a
> self-serve pump?

Nope. But I did once manage to get distracted and dump about a quart of
100LL overboard while I was ogling a Silver Eagle P210 turbine conversion
taxi by while I was fueling my plane.

Glad you had some eye protection on...I can't imagine that actually getting
gas in one's eyes is good for them. :)

Pete

[Tim J]

A long time ago as a student I was sumping a 172xp and the drain plug was
not working properly - proceeded to **** 100 LL all over me, my new jacket
and then the tarmac. It took a while for a mechanic to get there with
pliers to fix it.


"Peter Duniho" > wrote in message
...
> "Peter R." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Anyone ever get splashed in the face with 100LL while refueling at a
> > self-serve pump?
>
> Nope. But I did once manage to get distracted and dump about a quart of
> 100LL overboard while I was ogling a Silver Eagle P210 turbine conversion
> taxi by while I was fueling my plane.
>
> Glad you had some eye protection on...I can't imagine that actually
getting
> gas in one's eyes is good for them. :)
>
> Pete
>
>

[tscottme]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Anyone ever get splashed in the face with 100LL while refueling at a
> self-serve pump?
>
> Today, I joined the nitwit club and was rewarded for my refueling
> complacency with a cereal bowl-sized volume of 100LL splashed directly
> in the face. At least I was wearing sunglasses, which kept most of the
> fuel out of my eyes.
>
>
> --
> Peter

During college I worked as a ramp rat and spilled my share of Avgas and
Jet-A, spilled it on me, the aircraft, and the ground. Oh yeah, after
handling Avgas wash your hands before visiting the little pilot's room,
don't ask why just do it. ;-)

It stings to get fuel in the eye, it should be flushed with water and it
helps to keep your eyelid closed until you can get plenty of water on the
scene. It's the evaporation that seems to cause the most irritation. Some
A&Ps also use low-lead as a parts cleaner. I've had my hands soaked in it
pretty often and the cuts on your hands notice but it's not then end of the
world to get fuel on you. My doctor says aside from the third arm growing
out of my forehead I'm almost normal.

--
Scott

[Nathan Young]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:24:53 -0400, Peter R. >
wrote:

>Anyone ever get splashed in the face with 100LL while refueling at a
>self-serve pump?
>
>Today, I joined the nitwit club and was rewarded for my refueling
>complacency with a cereal bowl-sized volume of 100LL splashed directly
>in the face. At least I was wearing sunglasses, which kept most of the
>fuel out of my eyes.

A true pilot wears 100LL cologne. :)

How did it happen? I self-fuel frequently, and would like to avoid
the same thing.

-Nathan

[Peter R.]

Nathan Young wrote:

> How did it happen? I self-fuel frequently, and would like to avoid
> the same thing.

My Bonanza has wingtip tanks and the caps of these tanks are about
chest-high for someone of average height. To fuel the tanks, I have to
hold the nozzle right about face level with the tip of the nozzle just
below the lip of the tank.

Due to the rather awkward position in which I was required to hold the
nozzle, I inadvertently lifted the nozzle just above and to the right of
the lip of the tank. The flowing fuel hit the lip and top of the tank,
then quickly splashed back at me.

To prevent this from happening again, I should use a step ladder so that
I am looking down, rather than level with the nozzle. I also need to
pay closer attention to the task instead of letting my mind wander as I
did.

I was impressed at how quickly the fuel evaporated, though. Despite
getting it all over my shirt, too, there was no detectable odor ten
minutes later. If it had been auto fuel, I would still reek today.

--
Peter

[Gene Seibel]

Peter R. > wrote in message >...
> Anyone ever get splashed in the face with 100LL while refueling at a
> self-serve pump?
>
> Today, I joined the nitwit club and was rewarded for my refueling
> complacency with a cereal bowl-sized volume of 100LL splashed directly
> in the face. At least I was wearing sunglasses, which kept most of the
> fuel out of my eyes.

Been real careful when dealing with fluids since I got a spray of
battery acid in my eyes as a kid. Was using an air compressor to blow
grass off the top of a lawn mower battery. It was in the days when
battery caps still had vent holes. Got the air stream to close to a
vent hole and acid began spraying out of the other caps. Real scary,
but my dad flushed out my eyes with a garden hose and as far as I know
there was no permanent damage.
--
Gene Seibel
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Because I fly, I envy no one.

[C J Campbell]

"Peter Duniho" > wrote in message
...
> "Peter R." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Anyone ever get splashed in the face with 100LL while refueling at a
> > self-serve pump?
>
> Nope. But I did once manage to get distracted and dump about a quart of
> 100LL overboard while I was ogling a Silver Eagle P210 turbine conversion
> taxi by while I was fueling my plane.
>
> Glad you had some eye protection on...I can't imagine that actually
getting
> gas in one's eyes is good for them. :)

It stings.

[Icebound]

"tscottme" > wrote in message
...
....
> Some A&Ps also use low-lead as a parts cleaner. I've had my hands soaked
in it
> pretty often and the cuts on your hands notice but it's not then end of
the
> world to get fuel on you. ...

That doesn't sound too safe.
Are they (and you) not concerned with the fire hazard, and the lead health
hazard? While children are more susceptible than adults, I still don't
think I would want to put my hands in it every day as part of my job.....

[Ron Natalie]

"C J Campbell" > wrote in message news:VsednWCShodKo8ncRVn->
> It stings.
>
It burns like a Glasgow bikini wax.

[Rutger]

The teraethyl lead in the avgas will rapidly absorb thru your skin
into your bloodstream. Your eyeballs will absorb it at least an order
of magnitude more quickly than your skin. Getting large quantities of
leaded gasoline on you needs to be washed off with soap and lots of
water asap. Too much repeated exposure to TEL thru skin absorbption
this way, and you might even want to have a blood test done to check
how much lead you've accumulated and if you need to be administered
some calcium EDTA orally or IV, depending on how much lead is in your
soft tissues.

[G Farris]

In article >,
says...
>
>Nathan Young wrote:

>I was impressed at how quickly the fuel evaporated, though. Despite
>getting it all over my shirt, too, there was no detectable odor ten
>minutes later. If it had been auto fuel, I would still reek today.
>


I've noticed this too. Avgas seems to evaporate quickly, and stink much less
than automobile gasoline. After I use my GATTS jar, I can leave it out during
the rest of a pre-flight (a few minutes) then put it back in my flight bag.
When I get home, there is no detectable odor in the flight bag.

G Faris

[tscottme]

"Icebound" > wrote in message
. rogers.com...
>
> "tscottme" > wrote in message
> ...
> ...
> > Some A&Ps also use low-lead as a parts cleaner. I've had my hands
soaked
> in it
> > pretty often and the cuts on your hands notice but it's not then end of
> the
> > world to get fuel on you. ...
>
> That doesn't sound too safe.
> Are they (and you) not concerned with the fire hazard, and the lead health
> hazard? While children are more susceptible than adults, I still don't
> think I would want to put my hands in it every day as part of my job.....
>

Can't think of a parts cleaner that isn't flammable, certainly not one as
cheap as just a couple bucks per gallon, and available in each aircraft.
After the part is thoroughly dry, it's no more flammable than fresh out of
the box. Besides, you'd have ready access to 100LL from draining tanks or
from sump samples. We didn't bathe in it, we might splash a bit dropping a
part in a pail and get our hand wet picking the part out of a pail. Shops
bigger than my previous one-man-band operation would have Safety-Kleen
basins.


--
Scott

[tscottme]

"G Farris" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> >Nathan Young wrote:
>
> >I was impressed at how quickly the fuel evaporated, though. Despite
> >getting it all over my shirt, too, there was no detectable odor ten
> >minutes later. If it had been auto fuel, I would still reek today.
> >
>
>
> I've noticed this too. Avgas seems to evaporate quickly, and stink much
less
> than automobile gasoline. After I use my GATTS jar, I can leave it out
during
> the rest of a pre-flight (a few minutes) then put it back in my flight
bag.
> When I get home, there is no detectable odor in the flight bag.
>
> G Faris
>

I can confirm what you say about avgas vs. auto gas. After having used
100LL for its cleaning ability, I tried using auto gas to clean some car
parts. I could barely stand to be near the stuff. It smelled much worse
and was highly irritating. One experiment with auto gas was enough to make
me stop.

--
Scott

What would you call a 51 year old man that marries a 6 year old girl?
Muslims call him Prophet Muhammad.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm

[Capt.Doug]

>"Peter R." wrote in message > Anyone ever get splashed in the face with
>100LL while refueling at a self-serve pump?

I spilled Jet-A down the front of me once. After a half hour, the kerosine
starts irritating and burning the sensitive portions inside of one's
blue-jeans.

D.

[Morgans]

"Capt.Doug" > wrote in message
...
> >"Peter R." wrote in message > Anyone ever get splashed in the face with
> >100LL while refueling at a self-serve pump?
>
> I spilled Jet-A down the front of me once. After a half hour, the kerosine
> starts irritating and burning the sensitive portions inside of one's
> blue-jeans.
>
> D.
>
Ever get lacquer thinner in large quantities on your skin?

One time, I stopped by a guy's shop to visit, and when I sat down at a
picnic bench, I didn't notice the lacquer thinner soaked rags I sat on.
That is, until I felt the wet sensation, followed very shortly by the
burning sensation, which grew and grew to some very intense levels. I
dropped my drawers, right there in the shop, and washed my backside and my
jeans out in the lav, until it was all gone. The burn still didn't go away
for a long time.

This was only on my thighs. I don't want to think about if it had been a
few inches higher :-0
--
Jim in NC


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[Jaap Berkhout]

On 26-Sep-2004, "Morgans" > wrote:

> This was only on my thighs. I don't want to think about if it had been a
> few inches higher :-0

I had a motorcycle accident once. Due to some misunderstanding on the part
of my opponent (i.e. failure to understanding the importance of staying
awake while driving) I collided frontally. I was launched over the handle
bars of my bike while the (just filled) tank was crushed, thus drenching me
in petrol from chest to knees. After some minutes (spent underneat a car)
it began to "soak in". I stripped then and there...

[Capt.Doug]

>"Morgans" wrote in message > Ever get lacquer thinner in large quantities
on >your skin?

Mineral spirits!

D.

[Morgans]

"Capt.Doug" > wrote in message
...
> >"Morgans" wrote in message > Ever get lacquer thinner in large quantities
> on >your skin?
>
> Mineral spirits!
>
> D.

Na! That's for sissies. Try lacquer thinner, if you want a real lift!
--
Jim in NC


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"Morgans" > wrote in message >...

> Na! That's for sissies. Try lacquer thinner, if you want a real lift!

I'll take your wimpy lacquer thinner ass-bath, and raise you a
thumbnail detached nearly to the quick while loosening a corroded
steel flare fitting in an anti-ice system. Overhead, inside the belly
panel of a Twin Beech.

Didn't bother to drain the alcohol out of the tank-the elbow
fractured, wrench departed, removed the thumbnail on a nearby
structural member, and drenched the wound thoroughly (along with the
hand, the arm to the elbow, hair, face, even had a little running down
the ol' ass-crack) with the contents.

Least I didn't have to worry about infection, and was really glad I
wasn't using a drop-light for illumination....

TC

[Morgans]

> wrote in message
m...
> "Morgans" > wrote in message
>...
>
> > Na! That's for sissies. Try lacquer thinner, if you want a real lift!
>
> I'll take your wimpy lacquer thinner ass-bath, and raise you a
> thumbnail detached nearly to the quick while loosening a corroded
> steel flare fitting in an anti-ice system. Overhead, inside the belly
> panel of a Twin Beech.
>
> Didn't bother to drain the alcohol out of the tank-the elbow
> fractured, wrench departed, removed the thumbnail on a nearby
> structural member, and drenched the wound thoroughly (along with the
> hand, the arm to the elbow, hair, face, even had a little running down
> the ol' ass-crack) with the contents.
>
> Least I didn't have to worry about infection, and was really glad I
> wasn't using a drop-light for illumination....
>
> TC

Ooooh! That IS a winning hand! :-o)

Betcha' you can't do that again! Or won't!
--
Jim in NC


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