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Martin Hotze
September 26th 04, 09:48 AM
FYI;

how long will it take that every flight has to be under a flight plan and
one has to submit every passenger data?

martin
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source -> http://cryptome.org/tsa092104.htm

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24 September 2004. The first three TSA notices below were published in the
Federal Register today, along with a fourth which was not offered with them
on the TSA web site on September 22.

22 September 2004. Thanks to J.
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Airlines Told to Turn Over Passenger Data

Updated: Tuesday, Sep. 21, 2004 - 4:30 PM

By LESLIE MILLER

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Transportation Security Administration announced on
Tuesday that it will order domestic airlines to turn over personal
information about passengers to test a system that will compare their names
to those on terrorist watch lists.

The system, called Secure Flight, replaces a previous plan that would have
checked passenger names against commercial databases and assigned a risk
level to each. That plan, which cost $103 million, was abandoned because of
privacy concerns and technological issues.

The airlines will have 30 days to comment on the proposed order, which
Congress gave the TSA authority to issue. Air carriers will then have 10
days to turn over data that it gathered in June, called passenger name
records.
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dancingstar
September 27th 04, 08:42 AM
Martin Hotze wrote:
> FYI;
>
> how long will it take that every flight has to be under a flight plan and
> one has to submit every passenger data?
>
> martin


I was just reading the jumble put out by our protectors at TSA and think
this relates...

"...The fee is required of candidates in Categories 1-3. TSA notes that
Section 612 of Vision 100 authorizes TSA to assess a fee for any
investigation under Section 612. As discussed above, Section 612 does
not mandate a security threat assessment for candidates for flight
training for aircraft weighing 12,500 pounds or less. However, as
discussed above, TSA believes such candidates must be subject to the
security threat assessment requirements in order to carry out the
intent of the statute--preventing individuals who pose a threat to
aviation or national security from obtaining flight training, and thus
preventing them from conducting terrorist attacks using aircraft. Thus,
TSA will perform a security threat assessment on those individuals, and
will assess a fee for the threat assessment under Section 612.
Section 612 authorizes TSA to set the fee to reflect the costs of
the security threat assessment. As explained in greater detail below,
the fee is $130 to reflect the full recurring costs to TSA for
performing the security threat assessment."

Aren't they saying here that the fee for, and thus, the threat assesment
isn't really required but we are gonna do it anyway?


Antonio

G.R. Patterson III
September 28th 04, 02:56 AM
dancingstar wrote:
>
> Aren't they saying here that the fee for, and thus, the threat assesment
> isn't really required but we are gonna do it anyway?

You're asking Martin, whose native language is German, to venture an opinion on the
meaning of something written in bureaucratese?

FWIW, that's my interpretation, though.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

dancingstar
September 29th 04, 12:31 AM
G.R. Patterson III wrote:
>
> dancingstar wrote:
>
>>Aren't they saying here that the fee for, and thus, the threat assesment
>>isn't really required but we are gonna do it anyway?
>
>
> You're asking Martin, whose native language is German, to venture an opinion on the
> meaning of something written in bureaucratese?
>
> FWIW, that's my interpretation, though.
>
> George Patterson
> If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
> been looking for it.

My apologies to Martin. I hope he doesn't stay up nights with a
dictionary trying to respond !

Antonio

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