Re: ramifications of new TSA rule affects all non-US and US citizen pilots

[David Brooks]

"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
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> Resident aliens do not have a visa, nor do they have to do ANY extra
> paperwork to get their certificate. This is exactly the kind of flawed
> argument that the TSA is following.

Technically the I551 is a visa, but your main point (as you well know) is
correct. The USCIS (part of the same Deparment as the TSA!) tells us:

Rights
As a Permanent Resident you have most of the rights of a United States
Citizen but there are some exceptions.

Rights
To live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any
actions that would make you removable (deportable) under the immigration law
(section 237, Immigration and Nationality Act).
To be employed in the United States at any legal work of your qualification
and choosing.
To be protected by all of the laws of the United States, your state of
residence and local jurisdictions.
To vote in local elections where United States Citizenship is not required.
Click here for more details on voting.

Exceptions
Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security
concerns.
You may not vote in elections limited to United States Citizens. Click here
for more details on voting.

-- David Brooks

[NW_PILOT]

"David Brooks" > wrote in message
...
> "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> . 4...
> > "NW_PILOT" > wrote in
> > :
>
> > Resident aliens do not have a visa, nor do they have to do ANY extra
> > paperwork to get their certificate. This is exactly the kind of flawed
> > argument that the TSA is following.
>
> Technically the I551 is a visa, but your main point (as you well know) is
> correct. The USCIS (part of the same Deparment as the TSA!) tells us:
>
> Rights
> As a Permanent Resident you have most of the rights of a United States
> Citizen but there are some exceptions.
>
> Rights
> To live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any
> actions that would make you removable (deportable) under the immigration
law
> (section 237, Immigration and Nationality Act).
> To be employed in the United States at any legal work of your
qualification
> and choosing.
> To be protected by all of the laws of the United States, your state of
> residence and local jurisdictions.
> To vote in local elections where United States Citizenship is not
required.
> Click here for more details on voting.
>
> Exceptions
> Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security
> concerns.
> You may not vote in elections limited to United States Citizens. Click
here
> for more details on voting.
>
> -- David Brooks
>
>

Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security
concerns.

I think that sums it UP!!!!

[David Brooks]

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
>
> "David Brooks" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> > . 4...
> > > "NW_PILOT" > wrote in
> > > :
> >
> > > Resident aliens do not have a visa, nor do they have to do ANY extra
> > > paperwork to get their certificate. This is exactly the kind of flawed
> > > argument that the TSA is following.
> >
> > Technically the I551 is a visa, but your main point (as you well know)
is
> > correct. The USCIS (part of the same Deparment as the TSA!) tells us:
<snip>

> > Exceptions
> > Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security
> > concerns.
> > You may not vote in elections limited to United States Citizens. Click
> here
> > for more details on voting.
> Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security
> concerns.
>
> I think that sums it UP!!!!

Being a well-trained GA pilot isn't a job. This means people like military
contractors who work on stuff above a certain level of secrecy.

-- David Brooks

[Andrew Sarangan]

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message >...
> "David Brooks" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
> > . 4...
> > > "NW_PILOT" > wrote in
> > > :
>
> > > Resident aliens do not have a visa, nor do they have to do ANY extra
> > > paperwork to get their certificate. This is exactly the kind of flawed
> > > argument that the TSA is following.
> >
> > Technically the I551 is a visa, but your main point (as you well know) is
> > correct. The USCIS (part of the same Deparment as the TSA!) tells us:
> >
> > Rights
> > As a Permanent Resident you have most of the rights of a United States
> > Citizen but there are some exceptions.
> >
> > Rights
> > To live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any
> > actions that would make you removable (deportable) under the immigration
> law
> > (section 237, Immigration and Nationality Act).
> > To be employed in the United States at any legal work of your
> qualification
> > and choosing.
> > To be protected by all of the laws of the United States, your state of
> > residence and local jurisdictions.
> > To vote in local elections where United States Citizenship is not
> required.
> > Click here for more details on voting.
> >
> > Exceptions
> > Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security
> > concerns.
> > You may not vote in elections limited to United States Citizens. Click
> here
> > for more details on voting.
> >
> > -- David Brooks
> >
> >
>
> Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security
> concerns.
>
> I think that sums it UP!!!!


Getting flight instruction is not a job. Giving flight instruction is.
The TSA rule does not prevent foreign nationals from giving flight
instruction. It only prevents foreign nationals from getting flight
instruction. If a foreign student poses so much risk, why does a
foreign instructor not pose any risk?