Re: The cost of war

[Teacherjh]

>>
The only thing that the two could possibly have in
common is a totalitarian leadership.

To combine these terms to describe any group of people or "enemy" is
oxymoronic.
<<

An oxymoron is a self contradiction. Two terms could have nothing in common
(red, dense) and their combination would not necessarily be a contradiction.

>> I fear it's too complex for usenet.

Well, depends how deeply one wants to get into it. But to get into it deeply,
any single word (facist, islamic) becomes nothing more than a cartoonish label
anyway. You can't expect more from combining the two.

Jose

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[Jay Honeck]

> Well, depends how deeply one wants to get into it. But to get into it
deeply,
> any single word (facist, islamic) becomes nothing more than a cartoonish
label
> anyway. You can't expect more from combining the two.

Well, thanks to everyone for chipping in! I don't feel anymore
enlightened, but it was a fun read.

In the end, I think it's safe to say that what I learned in college about
Fascism, some 23 years ago, still holds true today. Thus, combining the
radical Muslim Fundamentalists and the alarmingly similar Fascist ideology
into a single, catch-all label ("IslamoFascism") seems most appropriate.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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"Your Aviation Destination"

[Wdtabor]

In article nk.net>, Tom
Fleischman > writes:

>Simply put Fascism is a system whereby the govenment promotes corporate
>business interests over the interests of it's citizens combined with a
>media which lies to the people in support of both the govenment and the
>business interests

Actually, that is 180 degrees wrong.

Fascist states assert the interests of the collective identity over the will of
the individual. Businesses are individual efforts. Under a fascist state, all
enterprises must serve, and derive their rewards, through the collective.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG

[Wdtabor]

>>
>> Fascist states assert the interests of the collective identity over the
>will
>> of
>> the individual. Businesses are individual efforts. Under a fascist state,
>all
>> enterprises must serve, and derive their rewards, through the collective.
>
>BBBZZZZZZZ!!!! Wrong!!
>
>Here you are describing Communism, which *is* the 180 degree opposite
>of Fascism.
>

Sound effects notwithstanding, no.

Fascism is linked to collectivism, making it a first cousin of communism and as
far from capitalism and individualism as it can be.

I suggest you read Hayek, he was there.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG

[C J Campbell]

"Tom Fleischman" > wrote in message
rthlink.net...
>
>
> "The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called
> Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power"

And by that he meant nationalization of all corporations, which is what he
did.

[Wdtabor]

In article nk.net>, Tom
Fleischman > writes:

>> Fascism is linked to collectivism, making it a first cousin of communism
>and
>> as
>> far from capitalism and individualism as it can be.
>>
>> I suggest you read Hayek, he was there.
>
>
>"The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called
>Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power"
>
>* ********************--Benito Mussolini
>

This would be a merger in the sense that a chicken merges with a fox.

In a fascist state, the corporations are seized by, and operated for the
presumed benefit of, the collective. Mussolini was just sugarcoating the coming
seizure of their businesses by making the theft sound more like a patriotic
sacrifice.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG