I'm going to be a celebrity!

[Roger Long]

Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel, "Deep
Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen pontificating
ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship sinking.

If you would like to put the face together with the rambling posts that
appear in this newsgroup, be sure to tune in. (And not just the face, the
voice, the funny glasses, the lopsided and shifty eyed scowl.)

There's actually an aviation connection as well. The ship in question is the
one used by Admiral Byrd to transport his Ford Trimotor to the Antarctic for
his famous flights. This bit of aviation history can still be seen off of
Mexico Beach, Florida where she sunk under murky circumstance while bound
for Cuba with a load of lumber in the early days of WWII. No one is quite
sure exactly what was going on but her crew seemed to be remarkably well
paid for itinerant lumber transporters.

--

Roger Long

[Dudley Henriques]

I'll be catching this one for sure Roger. Thanks for the head's up,
and, congrats for sure.
Dudley

"Roger Long" > wrote in message
. ..
> Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel,
> "Deep Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen
> pontificating ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship
> sinking.
>
> If you would like to put the face together with the rambling posts
> that appear in this newsgroup, be sure to tune in. (And not just the
> face, the voice, the funny glasses, the lopsided and shifty eyed
> scowl.)
>
> There's actually an aviation connection as well. The ship in question
> is the one used by Admiral Byrd to transport his Ford Trimotor to the
> Antarctic for his famous flights. This bit of aviation history can
> still be seen off of Mexico Beach, Florida where she sunk under murky
> circumstance while bound for Cuba with a load of lumber in the early
> days of WWII. No one is quite sure exactly what was going on but her
> crew seemed to be remarkably well paid for itinerant lumber
> transporters.
>
> --
>
> Roger Long
>
>
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel,
"Deep
> Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen pontificating
> ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship sinking.

Good work, Roger! I'll look forward to watching.

Best of all (amazingly!), Dudley isn't castigating you for both (a)
speculating on the causes of an accident, and (b) taking part in the making
of a video that depicts the crashing (sinking?) of a ship.

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[tony roberts]

Looking forward to seeing it Roger - congratulations.
I trust that you will remind us nearer the date (I only mention this of
course for the benefit of some of the older ones :):):)

Tony

In article >,
"Roger Long" > wrote:

> Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel, "Deep
> Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen pontificating
> ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship sinking.
>
> If you would like to put the face together with the rambling posts that
> appear in this newsgroup, be sure to tune in. (And not just the face, the
> voice, the funny glasses, the lopsided and shifty eyed scowl.)
>
> There's actually an aviation connection as well. The ship in question is the
> one used by Admiral Byrd to transport his Ford Trimotor to the Antarctic for
> his famous flights. This bit of aviation history can still be seen off of
> Mexico Beach, Florida where she sunk under murky circumstance while bound
> for Cuba with a load of lumber in the early days of WWII. No one is quite
> sure exactly what was going on but her crew seemed to be remarkably well
> paid for itinerant lumber transporters.




--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Best of all (amazingly!), Dudley isn't castigating you for both (a)
> speculating on the causes of an accident, and (b) taking part in the making
> of a video that depicts the crashing (sinking?) of a ship.

..... yet.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

[Dale]

In article >,
"Roger Long" > wrote:

> Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel, "Deep
> Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen pontificating
> ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship sinking.

WTG!!

Along those same lines Oct 17th, 8PM Eastern, a program called NOW "No
Oppurtunity Wasted" will air. In the episode about the former SEALs
being reunited I'll be the guy driving the Cessna they jump out of.


http://media.dsc.discovery.com/fansites/now/now.html

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

[Dale]

In article <nospam-576964.20161302102004@shawnews>,
tony roberts > wrote:


>
> Almost hate to ask this Dale.
> Why the hell did they jump out?

That's what SEALs do. <G>

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

[kontiki]

Sounds great. Thanks for the heads up, I really enjoy the History Channel
especially the Deep Sea Detectives programs.

Roger Long wrote:

> Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel, "Deep
> Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen pontificating
> ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship sinking.
>
> If you would like to put the face together with the rambling posts that
> appear in this newsgroup, be sure to tune in. (And not just the face, the
> voice, the funny glasses, the lopsided and shifty eyed scowl.)
>
> There's actually an aviation connection as well. The ship in question is the
> one used by Admiral Byrd to transport his Ford Trimotor to the Antarctic for
> his famous flights. This bit of aviation history can still be seen off of
> Mexico Beach, Florida where she sunk under murky circumstance while bound
> for Cuba with a load of lumber in the early days of WWII. No one is quite
> sure exactly what was going on but her crew seemed to be remarkably well
> paid for itinerant lumber transporters.
>

[Morgans]

"Dale" > wrote > That's what SEALs do. <G>
>
> --
> Dale L. Falk

Really? I thought they made strange barking noises, and lay in the sun on
docks and such all day. <g>
--
Jim in NC


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[bryan chaisone]

Good for you Roger! Looking forward to it.

"Hey Sue! Look on the TV! I know this guy from R.A.P.!"

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

"Roger Long" > wrote in message >...
> Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel, "Deep
> Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen pontificating
> ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship sinking.
>
> If you would like to put the face together with the rambling posts that
> appear in this newsgroup, be sure to tune in. (And not just the face, the
> voice, the funny glasses, the lopsided and shifty eyed scowl.)
>
> There's actually an aviation connection as well. The ship in question is the
> one used by Admiral Byrd to transport his Ford Trimotor to the Antarctic for
> his famous flights. This bit of aviation history can still be seen off of
> Mexico Beach, Florida where she sunk under murky circumstance while bound
> for Cuba with a load of lumber in the early days of WWII. No one is quite
> sure exactly what was going on but her crew seemed to be remarkably well
> paid for itinerant lumber transporters.

[Morgans]

"Roger Long" > wrote in message
. ..
> Mark your calendars boys and girls! November 29, The History Channel,
"Deep
> Sea Detectives". R.A.P.'s own Roger Long will be seen pontificating
> ponderously and speculating on the cause of a ship sinking.

How about giving us a "heads up" on say, November 27th or 28th?

Chances are way better that I will "remember" to watch it, than if no one
mentions it until then.

Thanks, and I look forward to it.

What do you do, or how did you get involved in this project?
--
Jim in NC


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[Roger Long]

> What do you do, or how did you get involved in this project?

See:

http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma

Actually, it's kind of a hoot how I got involved. The sons of the couple
that own and run the film company that is producing this series are my kids
best friends. At least every other day I am shuttling their kids or mine
back and forth. As they say, "It's not what you know, it's who you know."

Except that, a couple weeks ago, I got a call from someone saying, "Hi, I'm
a producer with the Lone Wolf Documentary Group, you probably never heard of
us but, ...". The fellow found me entirely without realizing that I knew
his bosses.

If you like sea stories, there is a book out called "Tall Ships Down" by Dan
Parrot. It tells about the sinkings of five sail training vessels. I was
involved in the post accident analysis of three of them. One of the
investigations involved going to London to testify in a parliamentary
inquiry as an expert hired by the British government. The ship was owned by
the Queen's cousin. I was the only one in the inquiry to testify that there
was any problem with her stability (which was truly abysmal as the inquiry
eventually found). As I walked into the room where the House of Lords met
during WWII to tell a couple hundred people that the Queen's cousin was
responsible for the death's of 19 people, well, let's just say I was a
little hyped. The moments after I proved, using the defense's own numbers,
that it only took a 22 percent increase in wind speed to capsize the vessel,
there was a stillness in the room that I can still feel. Certainly the most
dramatic moment of my life.

Another of the accidents got it's own book, also recently published. "Pride
of the Sea" by Tom Waldron. I appear several times in the story as I had
basically been trying to tell people for a couple years, "Hey, this boat is
dangerous." I gave a talk on sailing ship stability (and the studies of it
I had done in connection with the U.S. Coast Guard to establish regulations
for school ships) to the Society of Professional Sailing Ship Masters. I
pointed out the "Pride" as being the vessel in the study population that you
would most expect to capsized (aside from the ones that had not gone down
already). At that moment, only the people drifting in the liferaft knew
that the ship had already capsized. They were found the next morning and my
phone rang a few hours later.....

Because of the extensive study I did for the regulatory project, I arguably
knew more about the stability of large sailing ships at one point than
anyone on the planet. A lot of research was done a couple years later and I
drifted away from the whole world of sail to design oceanographic research
vessels, mostly fast high powered ones, and learn how to fly airplanes.

--

Roger Long

[Morgans]

"Roger Long" > wrote in message
. ..
> > What do you do, or how did you get involved in this project?
>
> See:
>
> http://home.maine.rr.com/rlma
>
>>
> Roger Long

Cool! It is amazing, to see the diverse range of interests represented in
this group. That is one reason I like it around here so much.

The off topic posts like this don't bother me one bit. If we could get all
the pure BS, like opinions on things, (like politics and religion that no
one is going to change anyone else's mind about) we would be all set!

I have a small interest in sailing, but limited to 25' to 32' sailboats on
Lake Erie. That is in the past, but some of the most memorable times in my
life, were on the lake.

I look forward to it, and also in your inside views, after we all see the
show!
--
Jim in NC


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