Weird stuff over New Jersey

[G.R. Patterson III]

I was working out in the driveway this afternoon when I heard a plane circling. I
looked up (of course) and saw a Cessna Caravan, complete with the belly luggage pod,
doing aimless wanderings around at about 1,000'. I watched for a while and heard it
for quite some time after it moved off. It was the sort of things a student might do
practicing maneuvers. In a Caravan?

So, a bit later I'm heading down the coast to install a storm door and spot an F-16
headed the other way (basically northeast up the coast). His buddy came in from the
ocean area and joined up with him. I'd guess their altitude at maybe 1,000', but it
could've been lower. They were not moving very fast for F-16s, but they aren't a
common sight here.

I just checked, and there aren't any TFRs for this area on the AOPA web site. Wassup?

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

[C Kingsbury]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
> I just checked, and there aren't any TFRs for this area on the AOPA web
site. Wassup?
>

Training exercises for interceptions?

-cwk.

[Andrew Gideon]

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

> I just checked, and there aren't any TFRs for this area on the AOPA web
> site. Wassup?

Where and when?

I was in the air this morning. I think I was actually over the border in
NY, though, doing maneuvers over "the onion fields".

I was practicing spiral descents. And ascents, as it worked out.

I picked an incomplete building in a low density industrial area. With the
clouds, I couldn't start too high, but I got up to 3500 there. I'd spiral
down, and then climb. Keeping with the idea of "practice makes perfect", I
continued the maneuver in the ascent, climbing back up to 3500 in a spiral
and then pulling the power again.

I went through this cycle perhaps three or four times. A lot more tame than
last week's spins, but fun nevertheless.

But I did find myself wondering what someone watching might have thought.

Today was also the first time I've ever heard my wife on approach. She was
up with an instructor working on her PPL. I'd just picked up advistories
from CDW to the onion fields when I heard "Hi" in her voice. I "Hi"-ed
back.

Fortunately, approach was quite quiet today. But perhaps the F-16s were
looking for the cutie on the approach frequency (by which I mean my wife;
not me).

- Andrew

[G.R. Patterson III]

Andrew Gideon wrote:
>
> G.R. Patterson III wrote:
>
> > I just checked, and there aren't any TFRs for this area on the AOPA web
> > site. Wassup?
>
> Where and when?

Just east of exit 117 on the GSP. That's a residential area southwest of Sandy Hook,
west of Red Bank, and a bit northeast of Colt's Neck. If you look on the NY
sectional, there's a seaplane base in a large inlet at Rumson. I'm pretty much due
west of that symbol on the chart.

> I was practicing spiral descents. And ascents, as it worked out.

This pilot was apparently randomly turning. The altitude appeared to be constant; the
engine note didn't change for as long as I could hear the plane. None of the evidence
matches your flight.

> Fortunately, approach was quite quiet today. But perhaps the F-16s were
> looking for the cutie on the approach frequency (by which I mean my wife;
> not me).

Maybe. I saw them down about where the 100 degree radial of the Colt's Neck VOR
crosses the coast.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

[Greg Butler]

Remember a couple of days ago when I saw Military Ops delays on the atcscc
website? One of them was in New Jersey (TEB).


"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Andrew Gideon wrote:
>>
>> G.R. Patterson III wrote:
>>
>> > I just checked, and there aren't any TFRs for this area on the AOPA web
>> > site. Wassup?
>>
>> Where and when?
>
> Just east of exit 117 on the GSP. That's a residential area southwest of
> Sandy Hook,
> west of Red Bank, and a bit northeast of Colt's Neck. If you look on the
> NY
> sectional, there's a seaplane base in a large inlet at Rumson. I'm pretty
> much due
> west of that symbol on the chart.
>
>> I was practicing spiral descents. And ascents, as it worked out.
>
> This pilot was apparently randomly turning. The altitude appeared to be
> constant; the
> engine note didn't change for as long as I could hear the plane. None of
> the evidence
> matches your flight.
>
>> Fortunately, approach was quite quiet today. But perhaps the F-16s were
>> looking for the cutie on the approach frequency (by which I mean my wife;
>> not me).
>
> Maybe. I saw them down about where the 100 degree radial of the Colt's
> Neck VOR
> crosses the coast.
>
> George Patterson
> If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to
> have
> been looking for it.

[zatatime]

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:41:28 -0500, "Greg Butler"
> wrote:

>Remember a couple of days ago when I saw Military Ops delays on the atcscc
>website? One of them was in New Jersey (TEB).


I was going to comment on that, butdidn't have proof they were
related. Does seem coincidental though doesn't it?

z