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aluckyguess
October 27th 04, 04:30 AM
Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.


How the vaccine works:

Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is
killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection
under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the
next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact with
the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it has
a
chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains to
be active during the "flu season"

Why the shortage:

Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any
influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses
vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the
vaccine
when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the
vaccine were recalled and destroyed.

Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?

The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late
80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a
US
company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit
margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK
and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.

By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.

Jim Fisher
October 27th 04, 04:40 AM
"aluckyguess" > wrote in message
...
> Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.

Old news. Probably not true and ain't got a damn thing to do with aviation.

Go away.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_flu_shots.htm

--
Jim Fisher
(who doesn't much care for Edwards and absolutely hates JOhn KErry)

Peter Duniho
October 27th 04, 04:46 AM
"aluckyguess" > wrote in message
...
> Read to the end

Sorry, no I won't...this has what to do with piloting?

Chris W
October 27th 04, 06:31 AM
Peter Duniho wrote:

>"aluckyguess" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>Read to the end
>>
>>
>
>Sorry, no I won't...this has what to do with piloting?
>
>

I did read it to the end I can tell you that it had absolutely nothing
to do with piloting! In fact, I am pretty sure no one in the story was
a pilot.

I will never understand why people are so bent on expressing their
opinions in such inappropriate ways. Do they really think it will sway
someone to their point of view? If they do, they are clearly simple
minded, inept, clueless, morons.

--
Chris W

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Dave S
October 27th 04, 10:38 AM
Way off topic.

Political slight..

Greatly oversimplified description of event and issues.

aluckyguess wrote:
> Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.
>
>
> How the vaccine works:
>
> Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is
> killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection
> under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the
> next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact with
> the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it has
> a
> chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains to
> be active during the "flu season"
>
> Why the shortage:
>
> Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
> Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any
> influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses
> vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
> British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the
> vaccine
> when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the
> vaccine were recalled and destroyed.
>
> Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?
>
> The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
> nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
> margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late
> 80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
> The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a
> US
> company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
> million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
> companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit
> margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK
> and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.
>
> By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
> was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.
>
>

Dave S
October 27th 04, 11:29 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/flushot.asp

Dave S wrote:

> Way off topic.
>
> Political slight..
>
> Greatly oversimplified description of event and issues.
>
> aluckyguess wrote:
>
>> Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.
>>
>>
>> How the vaccine works:
>>
>> Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is
>> killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection
>> under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the
>> next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into
>> contact with
>> the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before
>> it has
>> a
>> chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely
>> strains to
>> be active during the "flu season"
>>
>> Why the shortage:
>>
>> Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
>> Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any
>> influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses
>> vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
>> British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the
>> vaccine
>> when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the
>> vaccine were recalled and destroyed.
>>
>> Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?
>>
>> The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
>> nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
>> margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the
>> late
>> 80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
>> The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made
>> by a
>> US
>> company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
>> million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
>> companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the
>> profit
>> margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK
>> and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.
>>
>> By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
>> was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.
>>
>

Ash Wyllie
October 27th 04, 01:55 PM
Dave S opined

>Way off topic.

>Political slight..

>Greatly oversimplified description of event and issues.

>aluckyguess wrote:
>> Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.
>>
>>
>> How the vaccine works:
>>
>> Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is
>> killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection
>> under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the
>> next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact
>> with the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before
>> it has a chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely
>> strains to be active during the "flu season"
>>
>> Why the shortage:
>>
>> Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
>> Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any
>> influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses
>> vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
>> British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the
>> vaccine
>> when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the
>> vaccine were recalled and destroyed.
>>
>> Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?
>>
>> The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
>> nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
>> margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late
>> 80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
>> The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a
>> US company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
>> million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
>> companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit
>> margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK and
>> Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.
>>
>> By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
>> was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.
>>
>>

Too convenient. Sounds like an urban legend to me.


-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

Larry Dighera
October 27th 04, 02:30 PM
The message below has been forwarded to due to its
being off topic for rec.aviation.piloting:



On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:30:19 -0700, "aluckyguess" > wrote in
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>From: "aluckyguess" >
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>Subject: interesting
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>
>Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.
>
>
>How the vaccine works:
>
>Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is
>killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection
>under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the
>next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact with
>the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it has
>a
>chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains to
>be active during the "flu season"
>
>Why the shortage:
>
>Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
>Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any
>influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses
>vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
>British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the
>vaccine
>when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the
>vaccine were recalled and destroyed.
>
>Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?
>
>The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
>nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
>margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late
>80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
>The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a
>US
>company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
>million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
>companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit
>margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK
>and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.
>
>By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
>was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.
>

aluckyguess
October 27th 04, 03:32 PM
This was an email I got and I found it interesting. You can report me do
what ever you want. I dont care if it was of topic. Next time just ignore my
post.
"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
>
> The message below has been forwarded to due to its
> being off topic for rec.aviation.piloting:
>
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:30:19 -0700, "aluckyguess" > wrote in
> >::
>
>>Path:
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>>From: "aluckyguess" >
>>Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
>>Subject: interesting
>>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:30:19 -0700
>>Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
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>>(bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net)
>>
>>Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.
>>
>>
>>How the vaccine works:
>>
>>Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is
>>killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection
>>under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the
>>next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact
>>with
>>the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it
>>has
>>a
>>chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains
>>to
>>be active during the "flu season"
>>
>>Why the shortage:
>>
>>Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
>>Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any
>>influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses
>>vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
>>British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the
>>vaccine
>>when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the
>>vaccine were recalled and destroyed.
>>
>>Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?
>>
>>The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
>>nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
>>margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late
>>80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
>>The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by
>>a
>>US
>>company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
>>million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
>>companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit
>>margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK
>>and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.
>>
>>By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
>>was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.
>>
>

Larry Dighera
October 27th 04, 03:44 PM
If everyone who received interesting e-mail posted it to an
inappropriate newsgroup, there would be no need to segregate
newsgroups at all; we could just post everything into one big
newsgroup. Then you could just ignore those articles you didn't want
to read. :-(

Of course, you'd have no way of knowing which those were without
reading them first. Brilliant! :-(


On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:32:58 -0700, "aluckyguess" > wrote in
>::

>This was an email I got and I found it interesting. You can report me do
>what ever you want. I dont care if it was of topic. Next time just ignore my
>post.
>"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> The message below has been forwarded to due to its
>> being off topic for rec.aviation.piloting:
>


Your lack of regard for Usenet and the terms of service agreement to
which you agreed with Supernews.com are apparent. Hopefully,
Supernews.com will enlighten you as a result of your abuse.

Ross Richardson
October 27th 04, 06:34 PM
Go check http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/flushot.asp

This is a hoax! It has been passing around e-mails for a month or more.

Ross

Dave S wrote:

> Way off topic.
>
> Political slight..
>
> Greatly oversimplified description of event and issues.
>
> aluckyguess wrote:
> > Read to the end.... interesting, as well as surprising info.
> >
> >
> > How the vaccine works:
> >
> > Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is
> > killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection
> > under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the
> > next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact with
> > the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it has
> > a
> > chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains to
> > be active during the "flu season"
> >
> > Why the shortage:
> >
> > Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year.
> > Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any
> > influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses
> > vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently
> > British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the
> > vaccine
> > when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the
> > vaccine were recalled and destroyed.
> >
> > Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?
> >
> > The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the
> > nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit
> > margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late
> > 80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu.
> > The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a
> > US
> > company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5
> > million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical
> > companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit
> > margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK
> > and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.
> >
> > By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit
> > was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.
> >
> >

lance smith
October 27th 04, 11:10 PM
Dave S > wrote in message et>...
> Way off topic.
>
> Political slight..
>
> Greatly oversimplified description of event and issues.

I'm still sitting on the fence, but it's interesting to see how some
people will believe anything they come across.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/flushot.asp

Regarding the last bit:
"UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits, UK and
Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US".

Note that any company selling/distributing drugs in the US can be sued
in US courts...

-lance smith

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