FAA going to crap

[BuzzBoy]

I got a good friend who works for the FAA at a major airport.
He told me the experienced controllers and technicians are retiring and
leaving by the dozens and the only thing they are hiring are black
females and people who are basically unqualified and stupid. Now that's
scary. I never thought the FAA would be a victim of social engineering.
They are in the safety business!!

I have noticed flying around that more stuff on the ground is broke and
radios sound like crap

[TJ Girl]

BuzzBoy > wrote in message >...
> He told me the experienced controllers and technicians are retiring and
> leaving by the dozens and the only thing they are hiring are black
> females and people who are basically unqualified and stupid.

That's completely untrue.
Controllers are leaving by the dozens, but the FAA is not hiring ANYONE.

[Newps]

TJ Girl wrote:


>
> That's completely untrue.
> Controllers are leaving by the dozens, but the FAA is not hiring ANYONE.

The FAA is bringing in only a couple hundred a year.

[BTIZ]

the really good controllers were let go in 1981..

those that replaced them have done an excellent job of putting up with the
FAA bureaucracy.. and now that they have their pension qualifications in
hand.. they too are leaving..

and the hire rate cannot cover the retire rate..

BT

"BuzzBoy" > wrote in message
. ..
>I got a good friend who works for the FAA at a major airport.
> He told me the experienced controllers and technicians are retiring and
> leaving by the dozens and the only thing they are hiring are black females
> and people who are basically unqualified and stupid. Now that's scary. I
> never thought the FAA would be a victim of social engineering.
> They are in the safety business!!
>
> I have noticed flying around that more stuff on the ground is broke and
> radios sound like crap
>

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:bohhd.72636$bk1.66003@fed1read05...
>
> the really good controllers were let go in 1981..
>

No, the really good controllers stayed.

[R.L.]

Well, garlee Colonel, at this rate pretty soon, you won't have no help left
for your cotton harvest! Get your big LeeRoy to bed 'em down pregnant, right
quick and keep 'em on the plantation.

"BuzzBoy" > wrote in message
. ..
>I got a good friend who works for the FAA at a major airport.
> He told me the experienced controllers and technicians are retiring and
> leaving by the dozens and the only thing they are hiring are black females
> and people who are basically unqualified and stupid. Now that's scary. I
> never thought the FAA would be a victim of social engineering.
> They are in the safety business!!
>
> I have noticed flying around that more stuff on the ground is broke and
> radios sound like crap
>

[NoPoliticsHere]

BuzzBoy > wrote in message >...
> I got a good friend who works for the FAA at a major airport.
> He told me the experienced controllers and technicians are retiring and
> leaving by the dozens and the only thing they are hiring are black
> females and people who are basically unqualified and stupid. Now that's
> scary. I never thought the FAA would be a victim of social engineering.
> They are in the safety business!!

I'm not a pilot (or in any area of aviation) but I've felt that
the FAA has been going down for some time, along with their leadership.
I'm sure you're aware of some of the friction that has existed between
the FAA and the NTSB over some safety issues. But the PC milksops here
will tell you that this is PROGRESS!

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[Capt.Doug]

>"BuzzBoy" wrote in message
> They are in the safety business!!

The FAA is in the GOVERNMENT business.

Your paranoia against minorities is not appreciated by those who know
better.

D.

[Newps]

BTIZ wrote:

> the really good controllers were let go in 1981..

They quit.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Newps" > wrote in message
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>
>
> BTIZ wrote:
>>
>> the really good controllers were let go in 1981..
>>
>
> They quit.
>

You're both wrong. The really good controllers continued working through
1981 and later, and either retired or are still working.

[Henry and Debbie McFarland]

> Your paranoia against minorities is not appreciated by those who know
> better.
>
> D.

It's not paranoia. It's the truth. Everyone should be forced to work in such
an environment. My husband has worked for a federal agency for the last 29.5
years. Less than a month ago, his boss told him his next hire would be a
minority, "preferably a black female" regardless if that person was
qualified for the position or not. My husband is a PE and the hire would be
an engineer who would be responsible for the design and construction of
structures that could affect the safety of thousands of people. Think about
that and tell me it's paranoia.

In January of 2006, he will be 55 and have his 30 years. He's out the door
if he's not dead from the stress before then. Unfortunately, he will be
leaving an office full of folks who don't have a clue as to what they are
doing. That will be someone else's worry.

Deb
--
1946 Luscombe 8A (His)
1948 Luscombe 8E (Hers)
1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (Ours)
Jasper, Ga. (JZP)

[G.R. Patterson III]

Henry and Debbie McFarland wrote:
>
> My husband has worked for a federal agency for the last 29.5
> years. Less than a month ago, his boss told him his next hire would be a
> minority, "preferably a black female" regardless if that person was
> qualified for the position or not.

Black, Hispanic, or Asian females were also preferred by my former employer. They
counted twice for the minority statistics of the Affirmative Action program.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

[NoPoliticsHere]

Deb McFarland wrote:

>It's not paranoia. It's the truth. Everyone should be forced to work in such
>an environment. My husband has worked for a federal agency for the last 29.5
>years. Less than a month ago, his boss told him his next hire would be a
>minority, "preferably a black female" regardless if that person was
>qualified for the position or not.

And some of the milksops here will tell you there are no quotas.
But some of us know better don't we...

>My husband is a PE and the hire would be
>an engineer who would be responsible for the design and construction of
>structures that could affect the safety of thousands of people. Think about
>that and tell me it's paranoia.

And I wonder how many pilots here would feel really keen on flying
a machine that was designed and built by a group of these quota hires.
Would they be willing to put their butts where their mouths are?

>In January of 2006, he will be 55 and have his 30 years. He's out the door
>if he's not dead from the stress before then. Unfortunately, he will be
>leaving an office full of folks who don't have a clue as to what they are
>doing. That will be someone else's worry.

I'm aware of this phenomenon. It's happening all over America.
And people wonder why the U.S. is not the pinnacle it once was.

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[Dave Stadt]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
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>
>
> Henry and Debbie McFarland wrote:
> >
> > My husband has worked for a federal agency for the last 29.5
> > years. Less than a month ago, his boss told him his next hire would be a
> > minority, "preferably a black female" regardless if that person was
> > qualified for the position or not.
>
> Black, Hispanic, or Asian females were also preferred by my former
employer. They
> counted twice for the minority statistics of the Affirmative Action
program.

It is not unheard of to hire a high point minority and have them sit at a
desk doing nothing for 8 hours a day just to make the EEOC numbers look
good. The ultimate is a handicapped minority frmale.

[Rosspilot]

>Black, Hispanic, or Asian females were also preferred by my former employer.


Ideally, one would look for a black female with a hispanic surname who is
confined to a wheelchair.


www.Rosspilot.com

[Capt.Doug]

>"Henry and Debbie McFarland" wrote in message
> It's not paranoia. It's the truth. Less than a month ago, his boss told
him his >next hire would be a
> minority, "preferably a black female" regardless if that person was
> qualified for the position or not.

That the FAA is hiring unqualified minorities is not what I'm disputing.
What I'm disputing is that many here pre-judge minorities to be incompetent
while over-looking the fact that there are any number of incompetent white
males in government already. The FAA is hiring incompetence no matter the
color. Why harp on the fact that they are minorities when incompetence comes
in all colors?

D. (Where is the key that opens eyes?)

[Capt.Doug]

>"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
> Looking back, I suppose I should have come up with a better response than
> "What if I put on some shoe polish and wear a dress?"

Mentioning a reverse discrimination lawsuit works wonders.

D. (You didn't hear it from me)

[Henry and Debbie McFarland]

"Capt.Doug" > wrote in message
...
> That the FAA is hiring unqualified minorities is not what I'm disputing.
> What I'm disputing is that many here pre-judge minorities to be
> incompetent
> while over-looking the fact that there are any number of incompetent white
> males in government already. The FAA is hiring incompetence no matter the
> color.

This is true for all government agencies however, in my husband's case,
minorities are the preferred hire. Unfortunately, the government doesn't
have incentives or salaries that lure highly qualified engineers of any
color or gender. In many cases, private enterprise gets the cream of the
crop and the government gets the duds.

Why harp on the fact that they are minorities when incompetence comes
> in all colors?

True again. However, an incompent white male can be fired. An incompent
minority employee can not. To work around this issue, the incompent one is
usually promoted out of the area. Most are sent to Washington, D.C.

> D. (Where is the key that opens eyes?)

Our eyes are open. My husband would love to work in an environment where the
job can be done correctly by workers who have some pride in their
performance regardless of their color, sex, religion or natural origin. He
wouldn't care if they were purple people eaters as long as they did their
jobs.

Now, if only our government could follow their own policies and hire folks
regardless of "race, color, national origin, sex, religion, age,
disability, political beliefs, sexual orientation, and marital or family
status."

The weather looks great this weekend, and my little airplane and I are
attending a local fly-in. Lester (my 8E) doesn't know my gender or race, nor
does he care. He will try to test me on landing. It will be my skill (if
available) not my color or gender that will save the day!

Deb

--
1946 Luscombe 8A (His)
1948 Luscombe 8E (Hers)
1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (Ours)
Jasper, Ga. (JZP)>

[Blueskies]

"Henry and Debbie McFarland" > wrote in message
link.net...
>
>
> "Capt.Doug" > wrote in message ...
>> That the FAA is hiring unqualified minorities is not what I'm disputing.
>> What I'm disputing is that many here pre-judge minorities to be incompetent
>> while over-looking the fact that there are any number of incompetent white
>> males in government already. The FAA is hiring incompetence no matter the
>> color.
>
> This is true for all government agencies however, in my husband's case, minorities are the preferred hire.
> Unfortunately, the government doesn't have incentives or salaries that lure highly qualified engineers of any color or
> gender. In many cases, private enterprise gets the cream of the crop and the government gets the duds.
>
> Why harp on the fact that they are minorities when incompetence comes
>> in all colors?
>
> True again. However, an incompent white male can be fired. An incompent minority employee can not. To work around this
> issue, the incompent one is usually promoted out of the area. Most are sent to Washington, D.C.
>
>> D. (Where is the key that opens eyes?)
>
> Our eyes are open. My husband would love to work in an environment where the job can be done correctly by workers who
> have some pride in their performance regardless of their color, sex, religion or natural origin. He wouldn't care if
> they were purple people eaters as long as they did their jobs.
>
> Now, if only our government could follow their own policies and hire folks regardless of "race, color, national
> origin, sex, religion, age, disability, political beliefs, sexual orientation, and marital or family status."
>
> The weather looks great this weekend, and my little airplane and I are attending a local fly-in. Lester (my 8E)
> doesn't know my gender or race, nor does he care. He will try to test me on landing. It will be my skill (if
> available) not my color or gender that will save the day!
>
> Deb
>
> --
> 1946 Luscombe 8A (His)
> 1948 Luscombe 8E (Hers)
> 1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (Ours)
> Jasper, Ga. (JZP)>


This is rich...

Sending the incompetents to Washington.......by popular vote even...