Pilots who are also Ham Radio ops... how many?

[kontiki]

Just curious how many of us are out there?

One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)

Scott
K2ST
N6482P

[Kris Kortokrax]

Kris
WZ9T (N9KHS, WN9HVE)

[Jim Weir]

When I started the company 32 years ago, we did an informal poll using the now
obsolete electric typewriter and the ham call / pilot certificate printed books.
While admittedly unscientific (we took the tenth name from each tenth page,
giving us about a hundred fairly random samples), we found a roughly 1/3 - 1/3
crossbreeding between both sets.

That is, one out of three pilots is a ham, one out of three hams is a pilot.

That may no longer be true; I don't have any current sampling data to verify,
although it would be one HELL of a lot easier to randomize the data today.

Jim (WX6RST) and
Gail (KB9MII)




kontiki >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->Just curious how many of us are out there?
->
->One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an ILS/LOM/VOR
or NDB
->without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
->
->Scott
->K2ST
->N6482P

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Ron Natalie]

kontiki wrote:
> Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
> ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
> without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>
Ron N1RN (and Margy is N2JRG). The amusing story is one day
Margy (while she was getting her pilot) and her instructor were
flying along and I was in the back seat. They were getting
erroneous information from the VOR and they had the ID turned
up. After watching them cast about for several mintues I pointed
out to them that it was sending T-E-S-T.

[Bob Gardner]

K7LSH

Bob Gardner

"kontiki" > wrote in message
...
> Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
> ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
> without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>
> Scott
> K2ST
> N6482P
>

[Jon Woellhaf]

KB0WLW

Jon

[John]

AA3EV

John

[John Harlow]

-. --- - -- .

[Klein]

NA7NA

73,
Klein

[john smith]

WD8DNQ (since 1976)

kontiki wrote:
> Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
> ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
> without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>
> Scott
> K2ST
> N6482P
>

[Jose]

KD1SB (though for the moment, only on two meters)

Jose
--
Freedom - it seemed like a good idea at the time.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address

[Icebound]

"John Harlow" > wrote in message
...
> -. --- - -- .

me either, but used to be, ....- ----- -.-- . .- .-. ... .- --. ---

[Chris Schmelzer]

In article >,
"Icebound" > wrote:

> "John Harlow" > wrote in message
> ...
> > -. --- - -- .
>
> me either, but used to be, ....- ----- -.-- . .- .-. ... .- --. ---



N0OVF

--
Chris Schmelzer, MD
Capt, 110th Fighter Michigan ANG
University of Michigan Hospitals
Ann Arbor, MI

[PJ Hunt]

You have brought to my attention that I have completely forgotten my call
sign.

I know there's a "K" and I think a "D" and maybe an "M" or an "E", and maybe
a "7" or two. Or maybe they're not "7s" by "5s". But that's the best I can
do.

PJ

============================================
Here's to the duck who swam a lake and never lost a feather,
May sometime another year, we all be back together.
JJW
============================================


"Jose" > wrote in message
. com...
> KD1SB (though for the moment, only on two meters)
>
> Jose
> --
> Freedom - it seemed like a good idea at the time.
> for Email, make the obvious change in the address

[PJ Hunt]

Ah, now I think I remember it.. KD5EMM rings a bell.

PJ

============================================
Here's to the duck who swam a lake and never lost a feather,
May sometime another year, we all be back together.
JJW
============================================

[Peter R.]

Jim Weir ) wrote:

> That is, one out of three pilots is a ham, one out of three hams is a pilot.

I think I am pretty funny in a crowd. Does that make me one out of the
three?

--
Peter

[[email protected]]

WK5M (Karl) and the wife (Gloria) is KA5ZTX

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:38:07 GMT, kontiki >
wrote:

>Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
>One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
>without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>
>Scott
>K2ST
>N6482P
>

[Chuck]

> wrote in message
...
> WK5M (Karl) and the wife (Gloria) is KA5ZTX
>

<snip>

Was wondering if there were any 5's out there...


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[Morgans]

"Chuck" > wrote in message
m...
>
> > WK5M (Karl) and the wife (Gloria) is KA5ZTX
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> Was wondering if there were any 5's out there...
>
Is there a special significance to 5? I know nothing about hams, other than
they are sometimes too salty, and sometimes give me gas.<g>
--
Jim in NC


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[Mark Manes]

WC5I - Mark and my YL, KA5SMT - Jane
in Arkansas

Mark
N28409
WC5I


"Chuck" > wrote in message
m...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > WK5M (Karl) and the wife (Gloria) is KA5ZTX
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> Was wondering if there were any 5's out there...
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[Mark Manes]

the 5th call area- Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, and Texas

Mark
N28409
WC5I


"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Chuck" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > > WK5M (Karl) and the wife (Gloria) is KA5ZTX
> > >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Was wondering if there were any 5's out there...
> >
> Is there a special significance to 5? I know nothing about hams, other
than
> they are sometimes too salty, and sometimes give me gas.<g>
> --
> Jim in NC
>
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[Joe Morris]

WB4ZMP (after starting ham life as KN5OEQ in the 1950s)

A similar question: how many pilots are also motorcycle riders? This
question was asked by the instructor at a CFI seminar I attended in the
mid-1990s, and perhaps a quarter of the CFIs there raised their hands.

Joe Morris (also Gold Wing rider)

kontiki > writes:

>Just curious how many of us are out there?

>One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
>ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB without having to decode the dits and dahs.

[Ron Natalie]

Morgans wrote:

>
> Is there a special significance to 5? I know nothing about hams, other than
> they are sometimes too salty, and sometimes give me gas.<g>

Oringially, the digit gave you a rough estimation of where the ham
lived. However, while the FCC still issues them based on your
address, you're not required to change them when you move and you
can order a "vanity call" with any number in it. I've never lived
in 1-land, but I have a N1RN vanity call. Some of you will note that's
also a valid N number registration. I actually had it reserved for
several years but I decided I'd never get around to using it and stopped
renewing it. There's a glider somewhere in the midwest that has that
number on it now.

[Jose]

>>That is, one out of three pilots is a ham, one out of three hams is a pilot.
>
>
> I think I am pretty funny in a crowd. Does that make me one out of the
> three?

Let's see, was that a ham or a turkey? <duck!>

Jose
--
Freedom. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[kontiki]

Yes its interesting how the ham call sign assignment has evolved over the
years. Interestingly enough, back when I requested this 1x2 callsign (1976?)
there were no licensing fees. I've lived in the south for 30 years and
have never had to change my callsign... good thing cuz nowadays I'd never
get an equivalent 1x2 call.

I've talked to some pretty fascinating people over the years (been a ham
for over 35)... one guy who flew with Doolittle's Tokyo raiders
(he was a standby pilot and didn't actually go that day)... Tom Christian,
great great (whatever) grandson of Fletcher Christian on Pitcairn Island...
a guy who used to talk with Lee DeForest all time during the early days
of radio.... phew...


Ron Natalie wrote:
> Morgans wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there a special significance to 5? I know nothing about hams,
>> other than
>> they are sometimes too salty, and sometimes give me gas.<g>
>
>
> Oringially, the digit gave you a rough estimation of where the ham
> lived. However, while the FCC still issues them based on your
> address, you're not required to change them when you move and you
> can order a "vanity call" with any number in it. I've never lived
> in 1-land, but I have a N1RN vanity call. Some of you will note that's
> also a valid N number registration. I actually had it reserved for
> several years but I decided I'd never get around to using it and stopped
> renewing it. There's a glider somewhere in the midwest that has that
> number on it now.

[TD]

kontiki > wrote in message >...
> Just curious how many of us are out there?


I have my "basic" amateur license but still working on my morse code
endorsement but I hear that they may be giving access to all amateur
bands to everyone with basic licenses soon without morse code
qualifications.

Tien

[David Johnson]

NF6F (ex-WB6QDS, WA8JKB, DL4JD and EL0AY/MM)
Dave
N2372G Cessna 182B

[Ross Oliver]

kontiki > wrote:
>One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
>without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)


I got my no-code tech license about 12 years ago, so I still
can't decode the idents without visual aids ;-) Acutally,
my instrument rating was better for ident practice by forcing
me to actually do it.

Ross
KD6IJV

[Eric Ross]

Eric
WB7SDE

[Ron Natalie]

TD wrote:
> kontiki > wrote in message >...
>
>>Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
>
>
> I have my "basic" amateur license but still working on my morse code
> endorsement but I hear that they may be giving access to all amateur
> bands to everyone with basic licenses soon without morse code
> qualifications.
>
Most of the HF (long distance) bands are still guarded by the 5 WPM
code test. That's the only code tests for any US ham license. I
did 20 WPM to get my Amateur Extra class license which primarily
allowed me to be come a Volunteer Examiner (the ham equivelent of
an FAA DE) back when that was where the bar set.

Frankly, it's an archaic requirement. However, 5 WPM isn't that
hard (you only have to get 25 characters in a row in a 5+ minute
sample). Most people who get as far as trying pass.

[Al Gilson]

K7PWK
- - -
Al Gilson
N3082U
Spokane, WA
KSFF

In article >, kontiki
> wrote:

> Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
> without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>
> Scott
> K2ST
> N6482P

--
Al Gilson
Spokane, WA USA
1970 VW Convertible
1964 Cessna Skyhawk

[Sam]

Joe Morris > wrote in message >...
> WB4ZMP (after starting ham life as KN5OEQ in the 1950s)
>
> A similar question: how many pilots are also motorcycle riders? This
> question was asked by the instructor at a CFI seminar I attended in the
> mid-1990s, and perhaps a quarter of the CFIs there raised their hands.
>
> Joe Morris (also Gold Wing rider)
>
> kontiki > writes:
>
> >Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> >One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
> >ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB without having to decode the dits and dahs.

I ride a bike...
2001 Suzuki GSXR 750
1994 Honda RS 125 (track bike).

I've been riding street bikes since I was 19, and rode dirt bikes
before that. Motorcycles and flying are crack cocaine for me!

A friend of mine I rode w/ in college a few years ago also has his
PPL. I've also ran into assorted other pilots that ride, so maybe
there's some kind of correlation there. I think they're no too unlike
each other, both rewarding you for knowledge and experience. Deadly
to those who don't have respect for it. Keep the rubber side down!

Sam

[bryan chaisone]

Joe Morris > wrote in message >...
> WB4ZMP (after starting ham life as KN5OEQ in the 1950s)
>
> A similar question: how many pilots are also motorcycle riders? This
> question was asked by the instructor at a CFI seminar I attended in the
> mid-1990s, and perhaps a quarter of the CFIs there raised their hands.
>
> Joe Morris (also Gold Wing rider)
>
> kontiki > writes:
>
> >Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> >One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
> >ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB without having to decode the dits and dahs.


Bryan Chaisone (used to ride '70 FLH Electraglide)

[David Johnson]

NF6F
Dave
N2372G Cessna 182B

[John Harlow]

> I ride a bike...
> 2001 Suzuki GSXR 750
> 1994 Honda RS 125 (track bike).


'01 FZ-1
'83 XL-600R

[Zeb Palmer]

KD7EVS

[Jill Kamienski]

kontiki > wrote in message >...
> Just curious how many of us are out there?


AA0TH.
Haven't used it since high school, though.

Jill

[[email protected]]

kontiki > wrote in message >...
> Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
> without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>
> Scott
> K2ST
> N6482P

John
N3LYB
student pilot (~70 Hours)
FME/FMFA

[Gary G]

Gary KA7WDO

[Bush]

Now you are talking, started riding at age 12.

Have a great one!

Bush

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:29:45 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris
> wrote:

>WB4ZMP (after starting ham life as KN5OEQ in the 1950s)
>
>A similar question: how many pilots are also motorcycle riders? This
>question was asked by the instructor at a CFI seminar I attended in the
>mid-1990s, and perhaps a quarter of the CFIs there raised their hands.
>
>Joe Morris (also Gold Wing rider)
>
>kontiki > writes:
>
>>Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
>>One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an
>>ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB without having to decode the dits and dahs.

[David Kazdan]

AD8Y here. Lots and lots of others out there.

David, mostly C-172s.

Ben Smith wrote:
>
> KD6HYI
>
> --
> Ben
> C-172 - N13258 @ 87Y

[David Reinhart]

Dave, WA6ILT (since 1969)

Of course, these days there's no guarantee that a ham knows Morse code.

I always tell an instructor or examiner I flying with that I know the code so he or she
won't ding me for not double checking the ID on the chart after I tune it in.


kontiki wrote:

> Just curious how many of us are out there?
>
> One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
> without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>
> Scott
> K2ST
> N6482P

[David Reinhart]

I actually saw a photo of an old aircraft that had a registration number that
began with K. Evidently that was done at some point. The U.S. has N, K, & W
allotted for callsigns.

I wonder if the FCC and FAA talk to each other about calls/registrations. N1RN,
for example, is a perfectly valid a/c registration. So is N4GA, the number of
AOPA's jet. Theoretically, a ham could have his call and his aircraft with the
same number.

Dave Reinhart


Ron Natalie wrote:

> Morgans wrote:
>
> >
> > Is there a special significance to 5? I know nothing about hams, other than
> > they are sometimes too salty, and sometimes give me gas.<g>
>
> Oringially, the digit gave you a rough estimation of where the ham
> lived. However, while the FCC still issues them based on your
> address, you're not required to change them when you move and you
> can order a "vanity call" with any number in it. I've never lived
> in 1-land, but I have a N1RN vanity call. Some of you will note that's
> also a valid N number registration. I actually had it reserved for
> several years but I decided I'd never get around to using it and stopped
> renewing it. There's a glider somewhere in the midwest that has that
> number on it now.

[[email protected]]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:19:04 GMT, David Reinhart
> wrote:

>Dave, WA6ILT (since 1969)
>
>Of course, these days there's no guarantee that a ham knows Morse code.
>
>I always tell an instructor or examiner I flying with that I know the code so he or she
>won't ding me for not double checking the ID on the chart after I tune it in.
>
>
>kontiki wrote:
>
>> Just curious how many of us are out there?
>>
>> One nice thing for me is that its so nice to be able to Ident an ILS/LOM/VOR or NDB
>> without having to decode the dits and dahs. :o)
>>
>> Scott
>> K2ST
>> N6482P

It really upset my PPL instructor when I refused to write the code
down. He couldn't accept it meant nothing trying to count dots and
dashes. Much easier to understand the tones!

GM3RFA

[Jim Weir]

David Reinhart >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->I actually saw a photo of an old aircraft that had a registration number that
->began with K. Evidently that was done at some point. The U.S. has N, K, & W
->allotted for callsigns.

And A.


Theoretically, a ham could have his call and his aircraft with the
->same number.

Or you could do it like I have it on the blueonblue182, N 73 CQ.

Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Mike Adams]

David Reinhart > wrote:

> Dave, WA6ILT (since 1969)
>
> Of course, these days there's no guarantee that a ham knows Morse
> code.
>
> I always tell an instructor or examiner I flying with that I know the
> code so he or she won't ding me for not double checking the ID on the
> chart after I tune it in.
>
I also had to prove myself when I started taking flight instruction. My instructor once tuned random VORs
and had me identify them to prove that I wasn't kidding. It's just like riding a bicycle. I haven't been an
active ham since the late '60's, but it still comes automagically. Back then, the general class license was
a real badge of honor - 13 wpm if I recall correctly.

Mike
(formerly WA0KHB)

[Newps]

Mike Adams wrote:


> I also had to prove myself when I started taking flight instruction. My instructor once tuned random VORs
> and had me identify them to prove that I wasn't kidding. It's just like riding a bicycle. I haven't been an
> active ham since the late '60's, but it still comes automagically. Back then, the general class license was
> a real badge of honor - 13 wpm if I recall correctly.
>

Not me. When I got my Extra in about 1987 the code requirement was 20
wpm. I always hated the code, I tried to work some stations using it
but I had zero interest in it. After 5 or 6 years I forgot most of it.
I remember a few letters now but not too many.