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Jeet
November 18th 04, 11:29 PM
Hello, I am back.

http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan

I built this action device for generating unidirectional force for
reactionless propulsion of body. As everybody knows, loss of matter is
the problem with Newton's third law of motion. We have sources of
energy like sun out there in space. But we just can't use solar power
to give thrust to spaceship. There should be some mechanism to use
pure energy to give thrust to a body without pushing or expelling any
reaction mass.

So I built this device and yesterday tested this device. I used two
rod, wooden platform as rolling seat. I put this rolling seat on cot
and using this device I succeeded moving the cot on ground. The device
is working because I have not pushed or expellled any mass to push the
cot. I was sitting on rolling seat on cot. So the device works.

But today, I noticed that I am sitting on this rolling seat on cot and
pulled one end of cot with just "my both hands" with *sudden surge of
force* and cot moved on floor. This should not happen. If I pull the
cot slowly, it will not move. I also noticed that even without rolling
seat, simply sitting on cot, if I give sudden surge of force to cot,
cot moves on floor. Due to friction of my body with cot, this should
not happen.

Believe me, I have pushed the cot for about a feet on ground just
sitting on rolling platform on cot. I didn't used any reaction mass.

I thought that something is wrong and I must return to basic. If I
pull wall, wall also pulls me. In reality, due to friction of our leg
with ground, our body seldom moves towards wall. But if we use
frictionless surface or rolling surface, then if we pull wall, wall
also pulls our body. Tested by millions.

I am standing on this rolling platform. If I pull wall slowly, wall
also pulls me and my whole body moves towards wall.

But if I pull the wall towards me with "sudden surge of force", then
even if I am standing on rolling platform, my body does not move at
all.

This is 26th month thinking on Newton's third law of motion day and
night. I have suffered so much.

What the hell is going on? We can propel a body without
pushing/expelling any reaction mass and we can do it by simply giving
"sudden surge of force by our hand" to a body. That body gains
momentum and due to momentum of that body, we, source of sudden surge
of force, also moves in direction of motion of body because of
momentum of that body. No loss of matter, no expulsion of reaction
mass.

Solution to Newton's third law of motion: *Sudden Surge of Force*?

-Abhi.
=====================================
http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan

Uncle Al
November 19th 04, 12:17 AM
Jeet wrote:
>
> Hello, I am back.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan
>
> I built this action device for generating unidirectional force for
> reactionless propulsion of body.
[snip]

Your ignorance, incompetence, and psychosis are not of interest to the
world at large. Quite the contrary. You are not even an interesting
laughingstock.

You see yourself this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg
The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete3.png

--
Uncle Al
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
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November 19th 04, 04:35 AM
Jeet wrote:
>
> Hello, I am back.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan
>
> I built this action device for generating unidirectional force for
> reactionless propulsion of body.

Really?

> As everybody knows, loss of matter is
> the problem with Newton's third law of motion.

I wouldn't call it a problem.

> We have sources of
> energy like sun out there in space. But we just can't use solar power
> to give thrust to spaceship.

Why not? You just put out a sail that reflects photons
backwards. That will push you forward. The photons
are reacting. The sun doesn't have to.

John Anderson

AaronB
November 20th 04, 02:06 AM
(Jeet) wrote in message >...
> Hello, I am back.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan
>
> I built this action device for generating unidirectional force for
> reactionless propulsion of body. As everybody knows, loss of matter is
> the problem with Newton's third law of motion.

Loss of matter is not a problem.

> We have sources of
> energy like sun out there in space. But we just can't use solar power
> to give thrust to spaceship.

Try some solar panels for your engine.

> There should be some mechanism to use
> pure energy to give thrust to a body without pushing or expelling any
> reaction mass.

"Pure" energy does not exist. Energy is an abstract quantity.

> So I built this device and yesterday tested this device. I used two
> rod, wooden platform as rolling seat. I put this rolling seat on cot
> and using this device I succeeded moving the cot on ground. The device
> is working because I have not pushed or expellled any mass to push the
> cot. I was sitting on rolling seat on cot. So the device works.

This is a standard application of Newton's Third law. The force you
are exerting to *try* to move the platform may not be enough to
overcome the friction force between you and the cot; but if the
friction force between the cot and the ground is small, the
reactionary force can certainly cause the cot to accelerate forward.

> But today, I noticed that I am sitting on this rolling seat on cot and
> pulled one end of cot with just "my both hands" with *sudden surge of
> force* and cot moved on floor. This should not happen. If I pull the
> cot slowly, it will not move. I also noticed that even without rolling
> seat, simply sitting on cot, if I give sudden surge of force to cot,
> cot moves on floor. Due to friction of my body with cot, this should
> not happen.

If you push the cot, of course it should move.

> Believe me, I have pushed the cot for about a feet on ground just
> sitting on rolling platform on cot. I didn't used any reaction mass.

I think you're misunderstanding how Newton's Third Law works. Newton's
third law states: If object A exerts a force on object B, then object
B exerts an equal force in the opposite direction on object A. The
masses of the objects, nor the loss of mass, are not necessarily
relavent

> I thought that something is wrong and I must return to basic. If I
> pull wall, wall also pulls me. In reality, due to friction of our leg
> with ground, our body seldom moves towards wall.

If you push the wall, the wall pushes back. Think about being on a
skating rink. If you push away from the wall, you move away from it,
not toward it.

> But if we use
> frictionless surface or rolling surface, then if we pull wall, wall
> also pulls our body. Tested by millions.

Yes.

> I am standing on this rolling platform. If I pull wall slowly, wall
> also pulls me and my whole body moves towards wall.

If there was a handle on the wall or something, and you pulled it,
then yes, you would move toward the wall. If you push the wall, you
will move away.

> But if I pull the wall towards me with "sudden surge of force", then
> even if I am standing on rolling platform, my body does not move at
> all.

Ah, I see now. You're confused about kinetic and static friction. Let
me explain. Static friction is used for stationary objects. If you
push on something, and can't get it to move, you're fighting static
friction (also, incidentally, if you are are pushing something, and it
ROLLS, this is also static friction), if on the other hand, an object
is already in motion (but not rolling) then you are fighting kinetic
friction. Kinetic friction is not as strong as static, which is why it
is always hardest to get something moving, rather than to keep it
moving. The effect you are describing is that when you try to
accelerate something to roll with a large force, you will overcome
static friction almost immediately, and it will not roll, but SLIP.
For a rolling object, it will probably not move as much as if you
rolled it normally. Think of it this way: there's an old parlour trick
where you place a bunch of glasses and stuff on a table with a
tablecloth. If you pull off the tablecloth slowly, the glasses will
all fall; if you pull it off quickly, the glasses will (probably)
remain standing. With enough practice.

> This is 26th month thinking on Newton's third law of motion day and
> night. I have suffered so much.

Try taking an introductory course on classical mechanics. Or get a
textbook.

> What the hell is going on? We can propel a body without
> pushing/expelling any reaction mass and we can do it by simply giving
> "sudden surge of force by our hand" to a body. That body gains
> momentum and due to momentum of that body, we, source of sudden surge
> of force, also moves in direction of motion of body because of
> momentum of that body. No loss of matter, no expulsion of reaction
> mass.

Loss of matter is not required.

> Solution to Newton's third law of motion: *Sudden Surge of Force*?

Solution to Newton's third law: If object A exerts a force on object
B, then object B exerts an equal force in the opposite direction on
object A.

A.

> -Abhi.
> =====================================
> http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan

November 20th 04, 09:34 PM
On 18 Nov 2004 15:29:25 -0800, (Jeet)
wrote:

>Hello, I am back.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan
>
>I built this action device for generating unidirectional force for
>reactionless propulsion of body. As everybody knows, loss of matter is
>the problem with Newton's third law of motion. We have sources of
>energy like sun out there in space. But we just can't use solar power
>to give thrust to spaceship. There should be some mechanism to use
>pure energy to give thrust to a body without pushing or expelling any
>reaction mass.
>
>So I built this device and yesterday tested this device. I used two
>rod, wooden platform as rolling seat. I put this rolling seat on cot
>and using this device I succeeded moving the cot on ground. The device
>is working because I have not pushed or expellled any mass to push the
>cot. I was sitting on rolling seat on cot. So the device works.
>
>But today, I noticed that I am sitting on this rolling seat on cot and
>pulled one end of cot with just "my both hands" with *sudden surge of
>force* and cot moved on floor. This should not happen. If I pull the
>cot slowly, it will not move. I also noticed that even without rolling
>seat, simply sitting on cot, if I give sudden surge of force to cot,
>cot moves on floor. Due to friction of my body with cot, this should
>not happen.
>
>Believe me, I have pushed the cot for about a feet on ground just
>sitting on rolling platform on cot. I didn't used any reaction mass.
>
>I thought that something is wrong and I must return to basic. If I
>pull wall, wall also pulls me. In reality, due to friction of our leg
>with ground, our body seldom moves towards wall. But if we use
>frictionless surface or rolling surface, then if we pull wall, wall
>also pulls our body. Tested by millions.
>
>I am standing on this rolling platform. If I pull wall slowly, wall
>also pulls me and my whole body moves towards wall.
>
>But if I pull the wall towards me with "sudden surge of force", then
>even if I am standing on rolling platform, my body does not move at
>all.
>
>This is 26th month thinking on Newton's third law of motion day and
>night. I have suffered so much.
>
>What the hell is going on? We can propel a body without
>pushing/expelling any reaction mass and we can do it by simply giving
>"sudden surge of force by our hand" to a body. That body gains
>momentum and due to momentum of that body, we, source of sudden surge
>of force, also moves in direction of motion of body because of
>momentum of that body. No loss of matter, no expulsion of reaction
>mass.
>
>Solution to Newton's third law of motion: *Sudden Surge of Force*?
>
>-Abhi.
>=====================================
>http://www.geocities.com/abhi_yaan


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