Become a TSA funeral home partner

[Chris]

wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles too.

http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml


GA stands no chance really.

[zatatime]

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:47:20 -0000, "Chris" >
wrote:

>wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles too.
>
>http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml
>
>
>GA stands no chance really.
>


Sheesh! You really can't make this stuff up. I sure wouldn't
believe it unless I read it myself.

Thanks (I think).
z

[ShawnD2112]

I am privileged for I have now truly seen it all!

Shawn
"Chris" > wrote in message
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> wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles too.
>
> http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml
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>
> GA stands no chance really.
>

[Peter MacPherson]

I guess reality is stranger than fiction after all.


"Chris" > wrote in message
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> wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles too.
>
> http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml
>
>
> GA stands no chance really.
>

[Charlie]

>
> GA stands no chance really.
>
>



Imagine your comments if the TSA prevented a grieving widow and her child
from boarding a plane because they couldnt see through the urn...


some of you people are never happy...


Thanks TSA for trying to accomdate situations while working to keep us
safe.

[Jim Burns]

No matter what your citizenship, bureaucracy saves no lives nor makes a
country safer. It does however make it's citizens captives of their own
government.

When terrorists attack again, but use differant methods, new laws and
agencys will be created in the name of safety and prevention, however the
old laws and agencies will not be abolished. Bureaucracy breeds and thrives
upon itself.

When a government agency asks for funeral homes to become partners in
national Transportation Security, all in the name of safety and security,
what possibly can be next???

The TSA has created it's own minimum threshold to judge all other "threats"
against. The imagination of a career hungry bureaucrat is undoubtedly more
of a threat to the citizens of this country than the poor greaving mother
carrying the remains of a distant family member home for the last time.

I'm affraid there will be many more examples that meet this minimum
threshold and I cringe at how bizarre they may be.

There are many great things about this country. Our citizens have more
rights and freedoms than those of many other countries. Our fathers,
mothers, sons and daughters fight and die for us to keep those freedoms.
Unfortunately our ability to excercise those rights and freedoms is
sometimes inhibited by government agencies created out of fear or as a
desperate attempt of government to show "action".

I won't go so far to say that "We have nothing to fear but fear itself", but
look at what the fear of the unknown has created. There is a big differance
between being vigilant and being paranoid. The TSA operates on fear and
paranoia.

The devil's greatest trick was to convince the world that he didn't exist.
Bin Ladin's greatest act of terror did not happen in New York, Washington,
DC, or in Pennsilvainia. It's happening now. It's happening all across
America. It's happening to you and me and your mother and your father and
your childeren.

Now it's even happening at your local funeral home.

Jim


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[C J Campbell]

"Charlie" > wrote in message
...
> >
> > GA stands no chance really.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Imagine your comments if the TSA prevented a grieving widow and her child
> from boarding a plane because they couldnt see through the urn...
>
>

That is exactly what TSA said they will do.

> some of you people are never happy...
>
>
> Thanks TSA for trying to accomdate situations while working to keep us
> safe.

What accommodation?

[Morgans]

Jim, I agree with most of what you say, but from your comments, I have to
ask. Did you read the whole article?

You quote:


> When a government agency asks for funeral homes to become partners in
> national Transportation Security, all in the name of safety and security,
> what possibly can be next???


What does having a way to transfer remains after a flight, have to do with
"what possibly can be next???"

The absurd part is that they have to x-ray remains. To do so demands that
the remains be in anon-metallic container. All they are offering is a way
to get the remains back into a home "showpiece" container.

The remains being put in a plastic or wood container is not unusual. One of
the hats I wear is that of the last person to handle other loved ones's
ashes, and seal them in a memorial wall at the church I am a member of. They
are commited in a plastic container, so they container will not deteriorate
over time, I guess. Some people have real problems about dealings with their
loved one's remains. What is wrong with the TSA wanting to make it a little
easyer?

I still agree with you about most that you say about the TSA, I just don't
understand, this time. Am I missing something?

--
Jim in NC


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[Jim Burns]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> Jim, I agree with most of what you say, but from your comments, I have to
> ask. Did you read the whole article?
>
> You quote:
>
>
> > When a government agency asks for funeral homes to become partners in
> > national Transportation Security, all in the name of safety and
security,
> > what possibly can be next???
>
>
> What does having a way to transfer remains after a flight, have to do with
> "what possibly can be next???"

Maybe they have a point about not being able to xray a ceramic or concrete
urn, but I question what other items aren't xrayed or aren't able to be
xrayed. I'll admit that I don't honestly know. Do they xray bodies?
Coffins? I really don't know.

What I meant about "what can possibly be next" was an exhasperated comment
meaning "What other parts of our lives will they feel necessary to intrude
into next "in the name of transportation safety". Do they have suspiscion
or evidence of explosives or the like being transported upon airliners in
urns or are they just saying that it could be possible and we have to create
new rules "just in case"?

What other businesses that depend on commercial airlines will be asked to
become TSA partners because somebody dreams up something that could be
possible?

Will the bus drivers, truck drivers, boaters, longshoremen, railworkers,
subway operators, and cabbies be forced to jump through invisible hoops like
CFI's have had to just because something may be possible? The "training"
required by the TSA for CFI's was comical at best. From what I have seen so
far, we can expect more of the same.

Jim


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[Chris]

> What other businesses that depend on commercial airlines will be asked to
> become TSA partners because somebody dreams up something that could be
> possible?
>
> Will the bus drivers, truck drivers, boaters, longshoremen, railworkers,
> subway operators, and cabbies be forced to jump through invisible hoops
> like
> CFI's have had to just because something may be possible? The "training"
> required by the TSA for CFI's was comical at best. From what I have seen
> so
> far, we can expect more of the same.
>
> Jim

I agree with you Jim. The next initiative will be for cab drivers to have to
fingerprint all their alien passengers before they can be carried.

Bus journey time times will increase as the drivers check the resident
status of passengers at each bus stop. Passengers will have to complete a
destination card saying where they are going when they get off the bus.
Passports will be needed to travel on a bus.

Old ladies will be hoiked out of the lines for full body examinations so as
there can be no accusations of racial profiling.

It will get worse

[Judah]

Charlie > wrote in
:

>>
>> GA stands no chance really.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Imagine your comments if the TSA prevented a grieving widow and her
> child from boarding a plane because they couldnt see through the urn...
>
>
> some of you people are never happy...
>
>
> Thanks TSA for trying to accomdate situations while working to keep us
> safe.

Yeah! Thank God the TSA will not permit ashes on a plane! The terrorists
might be smuggling tweezers in there!

[Jim Burns]

What I can't stand is that they are concentrating on the "method", almost
like killing the messenger. Terrorists are not unable or unwilling to
change their methods, in fact, we should expect that they will. If we
continue to concentrate our energies on the last method used, restrict our
freedoms pertaining to that "method", the terrorists laugh in our face and
we will always be unprepared for the next method. But do we try to protect
everybody from everything? I hope not.

Jim

"Chris" > wrote in message
...
>
> > What other businesses that depend on commercial airlines will be asked
to
> > become TSA partners because somebody dreams up something that could be
> > possible?
> >
> > Will the bus drivers, truck drivers, boaters, longshoremen, railworkers,
> > subway operators, and cabbies be forced to jump through invisible hoops
> > like
> > CFI's have had to just because something may be possible? The
"training"
> > required by the TSA for CFI's was comical at best. From what I have
seen
> > so
> > far, we can expect more of the same.
> >
> > Jim
>
> I agree with you Jim. The next initiative will be for cab drivers to have
to
> fingerprint all their alien passengers before they can be carried.
>
> Bus journey time times will increase as the drivers check the resident
> status of passengers at each bus stop. Passengers will have to complete a
> destination card saying where they are going when they get off the bus.
> Passports will be needed to travel on a bus.
>
> Old ladies will be hoiked out of the lines for full body examinations so
as
> there can be no accusations of racial profiling.
>
> It will get worse
>
>


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[Ash Wyllie]

Judah opined

>Charlie > wrote in
:

>>>
>>> GA stands no chance really.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Imagine your comments if the TSA prevented a grieving widow and her
>> child from boarding a plane because they couldnt see through the urn...
>>
>>
>> some of you people are never happy...
>>
>>
>> Thanks TSA for trying to accomdate situations while working to keep us
>> safe.

>Yeah! Thank God the TSA will not permit ashes on a plane! The terrorists
>might be smuggling tweezers in there!

Or a kilo of explosives.

-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

[OtisWinslow]

A friend of mine had his dad in a cardboard box in his closet
for a long time. Why does it matter? Just poor the damn ashes
into the permanent urn. If you spill some the vacuum cleaner
will get them anyway.


"Chris" > wrote in message
...
> wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles too.
>
> http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml
>
>
> GA stands no chance really.
>

[Robert Briggs]

Jim Burns wrote:

> There are many great things about this country. Our citizens have
> more rights and freedoms than those of many other countries. Our
> fathers, mothers, sons and daughters fight and die for us to keep
> those freedoms. Unfortunately our ability to excercise those rights
> and freedoms is sometimes inhibited by government agencies created
> out of fear or as a desperate attempt of government to show "action".

I'd say that is also true of *this* country:

Crime fight tops Labour's agenda

Tony Blair has put the fight against crime and terror at the
heart of his government's programme in the run up to the
next general election.

Home Office Bills - including national ID cards and moves to
combat terrorism, drugs and anti-social behaviour -
dominated Tuesday's Queen's Speech.

Tory leader Michael Howard said Labour was preoccupied with
talk and spin.

The Liberal Democrats accused ministers of creating a "climate
of fear," to gain advantage at the ballot box.

Mr Blair told MPs that although security and crime were central
to this year's Queen's Speech, they should be taken alongside
on-going investment in public services and continuing economic
stability.

:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/uk_politics/4034543.stm

[Morgans]

"OtisWinslow" > wrote in message
...
> A friend of mine had his dad in a cardboard box in his closet
> for a long time. Why does it matter? Just poor the damn ashes
> into the permanent urn. If you spill some the vacuum cleaner
> will get them anyway.

If you feel that way, go for it. Some people have difficulty dealing with
human remains in this casual manner.

Thus the need for the TSA funeral home service.
--
Jim in NC


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[Blueskies]

I think we airline passengers should all become TSA Airline Partners. This way we could become certified so we would not
have to subject ourselves to a search by our peers and would therefore not add costs to the transportation
infrastructure - we could self search ourselves and then allow our selves to board the plane.


"Chris" > wrote in message ...
> wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles too.
>
> http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml
>
>
> GA stands no chance really.
>

[Casey Wilson]

"Blueskies" > wrote in message
. com...
>I think we airline passengers should all become TSA Airline Partners. This
>way we could become certified so we would not have to subject ourselves to
>a search by our peers and would therefore not add costs to the
>transportation infrastructure - we could self search ourselves and then
>allow our selves to board the plane.
>
Where do I sign up? This is the best idea yet.

[Jose]

>>I think we airline passengers should all become TSA Airline Partners. This
>>>way we could become certified so we would not have to subject ourselves to
>>>a search by our peers and would therefore not add costs to the
>>>transportation infrastructure - we could self search ourselves and then
>>>allow our selves to board the plane.
>
> Where do I sign up? This is the best idea yet.

I believe it's already being implemented as a limited test (although I may be thinking about expedited customs). It's something like you need to
submit to a background check, fingerprints or retina scans, stuff like that. Then you get a card and can bypass some of the security (but not all).

Would you like to give Bush your retina scan? I'll pass - I'd rather be groped by a llama.

Jose
--
Freedom. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[lance smith]

"Chris" > wrote in message >...
> wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles too.
>
> http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml
>
>
> GA stands no chance really.


Wow, maybe there is hope for GA yet. All we have to do is get the TSA
to make a mess, not apologize, and then we sue their pants off.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6613644/
My condolences to the bereaved.

-lance smith

[Chris]

"lance smith" > wrote in message
om...
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> >...
>> wet myself laughing at this one. I wonder whether they give air miles
>> too.
>>
>> http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1698.xml
>>
>>
>> GA stands no chance really.
>
>
> Wow, maybe there is hope for GA yet. All we have to do is get the TSA
> to make a mess, not apologize, and then we sue their pants off.
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6613644/
> My condolences to the bereaved.
>
I don't agree, just another hustler