Need details on a Challenger 602

[Bob Moore]

Hello,

I am trying to gather information on the aircraft that exploded at Montrose
earlier today. I did a search on a confirmed Challenger 602. I got a few
hits but the best I could gather was that the craft rated somewhere
between a Learjet and a Citation in nature which really doesn't tell me a
whole hell of a lot.

Please enlighten me!

Thanks

[BTIZ]

try looking under CL-601.. per your news article..
but yes.. it is larger than a Citation..

BT

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
.. .
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to gather information on the aircraft that exploded at
> Montrose
> earlier today. I did a search on a confirmed Challenger 602. I got a few
> hits but the best I could gather was that the craft rated somewhere
> between a Learjet and a Citation in nature which really doesn't tell me a
> whole hell of a lot.
>
> Please enlighten me!
>
> Thanks
>
>

[kage]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
.. .
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to gather information on the aircraft that exploded at
> Montrose
> earlier today. I did a search on a confirmed Challenger 602. I got a few
> hits but the best I could gather was that the craft rated somewhere
> between a Learjet and a Citation in nature which really doesn't tell me a
> whole hell of a lot.
>
> Please enlighten me!
>
> Thanks
>
>

The Challenger CL600 series twin jets are made by Canadair. They are large
corporate intercontental jets usually with a seating of 10-12 with a stand
up cabin and potty. They are larger than most common 30 series Lears and 500
series Citations. Sorry if the next doesn't format.



CANADAIR CL601 CHALLENGER
Engine: GE CF34-1A 75% Cruise: 443 kts Wingspan: 61.83 ft
Length: 68.33 ft
Rec'md TBO: 4000 hrs Range: 3391 nm Height: 20.67 ft
Srv Ceiling: 41000 ft Empty Wt: 19950 lbs
Single Eng Srv Ceiling: 24000 ft Gross Wt: 43250 lbs
Max Fuel: 2496 gal Rate of Climb: 4200 ft/min
Single Eng ROC: 1048 ft/min
Takeoff (over 50 ft obstacle): 5400 ft
Landing (over 50 ft obstacle): 3300 ft




Karl
ATP BE30, CE-500, LR-JET, DA-50

[Blueskies]

Another Canadair, eh? Seems there are a lot of them lately...


"Bob Moore" > wrote in message .. .
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to gather information on the aircraft that exploded at Montrose
> earlier today. I did a search on a confirmed Challenger 602. I got a few
> hits but the best I could gather was that the craft rated somewhere
> between a Learjet and a Citation in nature which really doesn't tell me a
> whole hell of a lot.
>
> Please enlighten me!
>
> Thanks
>
>

[Bob Moore]

> Thanks Karl,

If one tries typing in the aircraft in doubt, there are quite a few hits
that infer a LEAR, a Cessna, and as the media has called it, wrongly, a
Gulfstream. Just needed to be correct with the facts. Even the
company's home base was stated to be NJ, when in fact it is CA.

Thanks for the clarification---


> The Challenger CL600 series twin jets are made by Canadair. They are large
> corporate intercontental jets usually with a seating of 10-12 with a stand
> up cabin and potty. They are larger than most common 30 series Lears and
500
> series Citations. Sorry if the next doesn't format.
>
>
>
> CANADAIR CL601 CHALLENGER
> Engine: GE CF34-1A 75% Cruise: 443 kts Wingspan: 61.83 ft
> Length: 68.33 ft
> Rec'md TBO: 4000 hrs Range: 3391 nm Height: 20.67 ft
> Srv Ceiling: 41000 ft Empty Wt: 19950 lbs
> Single Eng Srv Ceiling: 24000 ft Gross Wt: 43250 lbs
> Max Fuel: 2496 gal Rate of Climb: 4200 ft/min
> Single Eng ROC: 1048 ft/min
> Takeoff (over 50 ft obstacle): 5400 ft
> Landing (over 50 ft obstacle): 3300 ft
>
>
>
>
> Karl
> ATP BE30, CE-500, LR-JET, DA-50
>
>

[G Farris]

Just drop in at your local Taco Bell and ask any burger chef.
They all have ratings in the type.

GF

[Bob Moore]

"Bob Moore" > wrote

> Thanks for the clarification---

Bob...next time you log-on with a question, could you
perhaps choose another name? I got here first,and
seniority does have its priviledges you know. :-)
I certainly wouldn't want the others in the group to
think that I don't know what Challenger 602 Is. :-)

Bob Moore (The real one :-))

[Peter Duniho]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 121...
> Bob...next time you log-on with a question, could you
> perhaps choose another name?

If that's his name, it's his name.

> I got here first,and
> seniority does have its priviledges you know. :-)

Not around here it doesn't. If you want distinction, it's up to you to
create it. Get yourself a more unique name, if you don't want to be
mistaken for someone else with a name as equally common as yours.

> I certainly wouldn't want the others in the group to
> think that I don't know what Challenger 602 Is. :-)

What do you care? Even if you didn't know what a Challenger 602 is, would
that make you a lesser person? I don't think so, and I think anyone who
DOES think so is an idiot. You should think they're an idiot too.

Pete

[Bob Moore]

"Peter Duniho" wrote

> Not around here it doesn't. If you want distinction, it's up to you
> to create it. Get yourself a more unique name, if you don't want to
> be mistaken for someone else with a name as equally common as yours.

****-off Duniho...if you can't tell that I was joking
even with all of the smilies...just stay out of the
conversation. I was just saying "welcome Bob, there
are two of us now".

Bob Moore (1)

[Peter Duniho]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
. 121...
> ****-off Duniho

Well-spoken, as ever. You are a shining pinnacle of airmainship. :-)

> [...] I was just saying "welcome Bob, there
> are two of us now".

Bull and ****. :-)

[the OTHER Bob Moore]

> Bob...next time you log-on with a question, could you
> perhaps choose another name? I got here first,and
> seniority does have its priviledges you know. :-)
> I certainly wouldn't want the others in the group to
> think that I don't know what Challenger 602 Is. :-)
>
> Bob Moore (The real one :-))
>

Yo Bob,

I'll promised not to post here anymore using just the ID--"Bob Moore" if you
promise not call the station as me, and turn your aircraft in to the station
stating "the CL-600 is a type of Gulfstream, like all the other idiots in
the biz."

[tscottme]

"Bob Moore" > wrote in message
.. .
> > Thanks Karl,
>
> If one tries typing in the aircraft in doubt, there are quite a few hits
> that infer a LEAR, a Cessna, and as the media has called it, wrongly, a
> Gulfstream. Just needed to be correct with the facts. Even the
> company's home base was stated to be NJ, when in fact it is CA.
>
> Thanks for the clarification---
>
>

If you expect the mainstream media to get anything more specific than the
correct name of the celebrity most closely related to any aircraft accident
story you will be sorely disappointed.

For airplane stories try avweb.com, aviationnow.com and other sites with an
aviation background. The mainstream press is nearly useless when reporting
on aviation stories, in my opinion.

--

Scott

"Arafat remains in stable condition after dying in a Paris hospital."

[WIACapt]

>Subject: Need details on a Challenger 602
>From: "Bob Moore"
>Date: 11/28/2004 19:21 Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Hello,
>
>I am trying to gather information on the aircraft that exploded at Montrose
>earlier today. I did a search on a confirmed Challenger 602. I got a few
>hits but the best I could gather was that the craft rated somewhere
>between a Learjet and a Citation in nature which really doesn't tell me a
>whole hell of a lot.
>
>Please enlighten me!
>
>Thanks
>
Actually, the airplane was a CL600-1A

[Gig Giacona]

"WIACapt" > wrote in message
...
> >Subject: Need details on a Challenger 602
>>From: "Bob Moore"
>>Date: 11/28/2004 19:21 Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I am trying to gather information on the aircraft that exploded at
>>Montrose
>>earlier today. I did a search on a confirmed Challenger 602. I got a few
>>hits but the best I could gather was that the craft rated somewhere
>>between a Learjet and a Citation in nature which really doesn't tell me a
>>whole hell of a lot.
>>
>>Please enlighten me!
>>
>>Thanks
>>
> Actually, the airplane was a CL600-1A


Google is your friend...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=Challenger+Aircraft+600&lr=&sa=N&tab=nw

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Bob Moore wrote:
> > Thanks Karl,
>
> If one tries typing in the aircraft in doubt, there are quite a few
hits
> that infer a LEAR, a Cessna, and as the media has called it,
wrongly, a
> Gulfstream. Just needed to be correct with the facts. Even the
> company's home base was stated to be NJ, when in fact it is CA.
>
> Thanks for the clarification---
>
>
> > The Challenger CL600 series twin jets are made by Canadair. They
are large
> > corporate intercontental jets usually with a seating of 10-12 with
a stand
> > up cabin and potty. They are larger than most common 30 series
Lears and
> 500
> > series Citations. Sorry if the next doesn't format.
> >
> >
> >
> > CANADAIR CL601 CHALLENGER
> > Engine: GE CF34-1A 75% Cruise: 443 kts Wingspan: 61.83 ft
> > Length: 68.33 ft
> > Rec'md TBO: 4000 hrs Range: 3391 nm Height: 20.67 ft
> > Srv Ceiling: 41000 ft Empty Wt: 19950 lbs
> > Single Eng Srv Ceiling: 24000 ft Gross Wt: 43250 lbs
> > Max Fuel: 2496 gal Rate of Climb: 4200 ft/min
> > Single Eng ROC: 1048 ft/min
> > Takeoff (over 50 ft obstacle): 5400 ft
> > Landing (over 50 ft obstacle): 3300 ft
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Karl
> > ATP BE30, CE-500, LR-JET, DA-50
> >
> >