Red Bull Air race videos

[mike regish]

Check out this site. It has video of the new aerobatic air races.

http://www.redbullcopilot.com/

mike regish

[Jay Honeck]

> http://www.redbullcopilot.com/

The videos -- and the races -- are awesome.

I hope they rejuvenate air racing worldwide!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Beckman]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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>> http://www.redbullcopilot.com/
>
> The videos -- and the races -- are awesome.
>
> I hope they rejuvenate air racing worldwide!
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

I'll grant you that it's an aeronautical competition and it's exciting as
hell...but is it really "racing?"

I don't think Reno (the traditional 'round the pylons...) would be anywhere
near as exciting if you only had one plane at a time racing the clock
instead of multiple planes going wingtip to wingtip.

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

[Jay Honeck]

> I'll grant you that it's an aeronautical competition and it's exciting as
> hell...but is it really "racing?"
>
> I don't think Reno (the traditional 'round the pylons...) would be
> anywhere near as exciting if you only had one plane at a time racing the
> clock instead of multiple planes going wingtip to wingtip.

I thought the same thing -- until I watched the races at Reno in September.

The difference is that the Red Bull races are held directly in front of the
grandstand, easily in view of the crowd. It is a timed event, so every
shortcut possible is taken, resulting in some really wild, exciting (and
dangerous) flying. Unlike the regular races, you can see every nuance --
and every mistake -- right *there* in front of you.

The traditional air races are a thrill, don't get me wrong -- but nowadays
you need a huge, completely unpopulated area to run them. The Red Bull
races can be held on just about any airport which (in my opinion) means that
they hold great potential to rejuvenate the sport.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Nathan Young]

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 01:53:53 GMT, "mike regish" >
wrote:

>Check out this site. It has video of the new aerobatic air races.
>
>http://www.redbullcopilot.com/

WOW. Looks intense.

What is the width of the gates? It looked like the plane barely fits
between the gates. I'm sure it is an optical illusion though.

[Newps]

Nathan Young wrote:


>
> What is the width of the gates? It looked like the plane barely fits
> between the gates. I'm sure it is an optical illusion though.
>

The video says 10 meters.

[Jay Beckman]

"Nathan Young" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 01:53:53 GMT, "mike regish" >
> wrote:
>
>>Check out this site. It has video of the new aerobatic air races.
>>
>>http://www.redbullcopilot.com/
>
> WOW. Looks intense.
>
> What is the width of the gates? It looked like the plane barely fits
> between the gates. I'm sure it is an optical illusion though.
>
>

The highlight-esque version that aired on NBC this past weekend said that if
they split the gate dead center, they have 10 feet on either side.

Jay B

[Marco Leon]

Would you consider the downhill ski slalom competition in the Olympics a
"race?" How about the luge or bobsled?


"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
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>>
> I'll grant you that it's an aeronautical competition and it's exciting as
> hell...but is it really "racing?"
>
> I don't think Reno (the traditional 'round the pylons...) would be
anywhere
> near as exciting if you only had one plane at a time racing the clock
> instead of multiple planes going wingtip to wingtip.
>
> Jay Beckman
> PP-ASEL
> Chandler, AZ
>
>

[Jay Beckman]

>
> "Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
> news:9Satd.137731$SW3.88465@fed1read01...
>>>
>> I'll grant you that it's an aeronautical competition and it's exciting as
>> hell...but is it really "racing?"
>>
>> I don't think Reno (the traditional 'round the pylons...) would be
> anywhere
>> near as exciting if you only had one plane at a time racing the clock
>> instead of multiple planes going wingtip to wingtip.
>>
>> Jay Beckman
>> PP-ASEL
>> Chandler, AZ
>>
>>

"Marco Leon" <mmleon(at)yahoo.com> wrote in message
...
> Would you consider the downhill ski slalom competition in the Olympics a
> "race?" How about the luge or bobsled?
>

IMO, unless the slalom is a dual course, no. To me, a "race" is a
competition where you are trying to beat one or more competitors to a finish
line and you have real time feedback on your relative position.
Yes, the fastest one wins, but it's relative. You only have to be faster
than the other guy at that moment.

Bobsled, luge and the Red Bull are timed competitions where running the
cleanest path should yield the fastest time but you don't know where you
finished until you complete the course.
Again, the fastest one wins, but he has to be THE fastest.

It's semantics...but it's my opinion of what makes a race, a race. You need
an element of head to head.

Regards,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

[mike regish]

I'm pretty sure they have 3 planes racing at once, which boggles my mind.

mike regish

"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
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> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:KZ9td.525777$D%.53781@attbi_s51...
>>> http://www.redbullcopilot.com/
>>
>> The videos -- and the races -- are awesome.
>>
>> I hope they rejuvenate air racing worldwide!
>> --
>> Jay Honeck
>> Iowa City, IA
>> Pathfinder N56993
>> www.AlexisParkInn.com
>> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
> Jay,
>
> I'll grant you that it's an aeronautical competition and it's exciting as
> hell...but is it really "racing?"
>
> I don't think Reno (the traditional 'round the pylons...) would be
> anywhere near as exciting if you only had one plane at a time racing the
> clock instead of multiple planes going wingtip to wingtip.
>
> Jay Beckman
> PP-ASEL
> Chandler, AZ
>

[Jay Beckman]

"mike regish" > wrote in message
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> I'm pretty sure they have 3 planes racing at once, which boggles my mind.
>
> mike regish
>

Mike,

From the Red Bull website:

http://www.redbullusa.com/article.action?documentID=1088708244168-1153479357&localeID=1069050852244-413370965
"The Red Bull Air Race, which made its U.S. debut at the 2004 National
Championship Air Races this weekend, takes air racing to new heights as
pilots execute gravity-defying aerobatics while navigating through a
twisting race course of five pylon obstacles stationed just over 500 feet in
front of spectators. Pilots run one at a time against the clock."

Jay B

[mike regish]

OK. I wasn't sure from the camera angles adn the little animation running
alongside the clips. I would think side by side in that environment would be
suicide.

mike regish

"Jay Beckman" > wrote in message
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> "mike regish" > wrote in message
> news:baqtd.624753$mD.23585@attbi_s02...
>> I'm pretty sure they have 3 planes racing at once, which boggles my mind.
>>
>> mike regish
>>
>
> Mike,
>
> From the Red Bull website:
>
> http://www.redbullusa.com/article.action?documentID=1088708244168-1153479357&localeID=1069050852244-413370965
> "The Red Bull Air Race, which made its U.S. debut at the 2004 National
> Championship Air Races this weekend, takes air racing to new heights as
> pilots execute gravity-defying aerobatics while navigating through a
> twisting race course of five pylon obstacles stationed just over 500 feet
> in front of spectators. Pilots run one at a time against the clock."
>
> Jay B
>
>