List Of State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?

[NW_PILOT]

Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list of
State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?

The only one i have found is for Montana:

The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3)
Lawfulness of Flight and Landings:

Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful if
proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of the
roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise
provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may not
incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection.

[Robert M. Gary]

In California they'd probably get you for not passing a SMOG test
first.

-Robert

[Matthew Walster]

In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency, and
if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or better
result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same...

Matthew Walster


"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list
> of
> State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?
>
> The only one i have found is for Montana:
>
> The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3)
> Lawfulness of Flight and Landings:
>
> Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful
> if
> proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of
> the
> roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise
> provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may
> not
> incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection.
>
>

[Mark Hansen]

On 12/9/2004 09:23, Matthew Walster wrote:

> In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency, and
> if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or better
> result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same...

I don't have my book here at the moment, so I can't quote the
specific FARs, but I think they say you must have permission
before landing. Because all land is owned by someone (generally)
you cannot land anywhere without permission.

In an emergency, you can do whatever you deem necessary for the
safety of the flight and people/property. There is a specific
"catch-all" regulation which states that you cannot operate
the airplane at an altitude such that you cannot make a safe
landing in the event of a power failure.

If you're flying over an area that doesn't include suitable
landing sites, you need to be at an altitude that will allow you
to glide to a suitable landing site (such that a landing would not
cause undo damage to property, etc.) in the event of a power
failure.

[Robert M. Gary]

I don't know of such a FAR. I think its just the general private
property thing at the state level (once the plane touches the ground,
its subject to local laws). However, the FARs do define an airport as
"the place of intended landing". :)

-Robert, CFI


Mark Hansen wrote:
>> I don't have my book here at the moment, so I can't quote the
> specific FARs, but I think they say you must have permission
> before landing. Because all land is owned by someone (generally)
> you cannot land anywhere without permission.

[[email protected]]

>I don't have my book here at the moment, so I can't quote the
>specific FARs, but I think they say you must have permission
>before landing. Because all land is owned by someone (generally)
>you cannot land anywhere without permission.

There is no such FAR. As far as the feds are concerned, they don't
care where you land (as long as it's a safe place to land).
John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Dave Stadt]

"Mark Hansen" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/9/2004 09:23, Matthew Walster wrote:
>
> > In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency,
and
> > if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or
better
> > result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same...
>
> I don't have my book here at the moment, so I can't quote the
> specific FARs, but I think they say you must have permission
> before landing.

There is no such FAR. The FARs don't care where you land nor do they
mention anything about permission.

[C J Campbell]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> In California they'd probably get you for not passing a SMOG test
> first.

Actually, there was a guy I knew in Borrego Springs who made a habit of
landing his Lancair on the road and taxiing to his house, but the sheriff
finally ticketed him for operating a vehicle on public roads without tail
lights and license.

[C J Campbell]

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list
of
> State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?

Basically, you are permitted to land anywhere you want unless it is
prohibited. It is not just Federal and state laws; there are many local laws
restricting where you can land an airplane.

The Seaplane Pilots Association maintains a list of areas where seaplanes
are prohibited, but I know of no such list of places where landings on roads
are prohibited.

[Newps]

And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate
in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in
advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do.



NW_PILOT wrote:

> Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list of
> State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?
>
> The only one i have found is for Montana:
>
> The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3)
> Lawfulness of Flight and Landings:
>
> Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful if
> proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of the
> roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise
> provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may not
> incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection.
>
>

[Newps]

Matthew Walster wrote:

> In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency, and
> if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or better
> result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same...

Land of the free and home of the brave...especially if you land on a
country road at night. Buddy of mine did that in his Cessna 180, while
doing his 180 degree turn on the road he wiped out a mail box next to
the highway. Needed quite a bit of duct tape to get back home.

[Newps]

Mark Hansen wrote:


> I don't have my book here at the moment, so I can't quote the
> specific FARs, but I think they say you must have permission
> before landing.

No, no FAR says anything of the sort. Where you land is not of concern
to the FAA.


Because all land is owned by someone (generally)
> you cannot land anywhere without permission.

Generally true but this is almost always a local, not federal issue.

[NW_PILOT]

Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to
them.


"Newps" > wrote in message
...
> And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate
> in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in
> advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do.
>
>
>
> NW_PILOT wrote:
>
> > Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list
of
> > State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?
> >
> > The only one i have found is for Montana:
> >
> > The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3)
> > Lawfulness of Flight and Landings:
> >
> > Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are
lawful if
> > proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of
the
> > roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise
> > provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may
not
> > incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection.
> >
> >

[A Guy Called Tyketto]

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In rec.aviation.piloting Newps > wrote:
> And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate
> in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in
> advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do.
>

On the contrary.

In Nevada, especially on US Highways 93 and 95, they have in
the middle of the pavement (sometimes 2 lane, sometimes 4) an airplane
insignia facing both directions up and down the highway, with a listed
number in feet of how long the road is straight (without any turns).
Those markings are there for planes to use for landing in case of an
emergency, provided no cars are obstructing that stretch of land. I was
out just north of Coaldale NV (heads towards KHTH and Reno) when such
an incident happened. The pilot couldn't make it to TPH, and TNX is
Miliary, so he had no choice but to land on the road. Luckily, I was
off the road. He landed safely and was hauled off by ambulance. Don't
know what happened. But it is entirely possible (and legal) if you have
no choice but to land on a US Highway.

Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
but can't remember which law mandated this.

BL.
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[john smith]

Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati, between the 41 and 44 mile markers.
Two parallel 15,000 runways.
They are repaving this stretch. The old pavement was 12 inches of
concrete with 6 inches of asphalt overlay.
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the Springfield ANG and Rickenbacker
ANG bases are within 30-40 miles of this site.

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
> Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
> to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
> Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
> created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
> line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
> in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
> but can't remember which law mandated this.

[Newps]

NW_PILOT wrote:
> Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to
> them.

They might but you'd be a lot better off going to each states department
of transportation, or where ever their aviation people are.

[BTIZ]

in California.. they get upset if you use a dry lake bed
BT

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> In California they'd probably get you for not passing a SMOG test
> first.
>
> -Robert
>

[Newps]

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:


>
> On the contrary.
>
> In Nevada, especially on US Highways 93 and 95, they have in
> the middle of the pavement (sometimes 2 lane, sometimes 4) an airplane
> insignia facing both directions up and down the highway, with a listed
> number in feet of how long the road is straight (without any turns).
> Those markings are there for planes to use for landing in case of an
> emergency, provided no cars are obstructing that stretch of land. I was
> out just north of Coaldale NV (heads towards KHTH and Reno) when such
> an incident happened. The pilot couldn't make it to TPH, and TNX is
> Miliary, so he had no choice but to land on the road. Luckily, I was
> off the road. He landed safely and was hauled off by ambulance. Don't
> know what happened. But it is entirely possible (and legal) if you have
> no choice but to land on a US Highway.

That's not contrary to what I said. You can land anywhere you want in
an emergency. We're not talking emergencies in this thread but every
day operations.


>
> Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
> to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
> Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
> created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
> line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
> in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
> but can't remember which law mandated this.

Again, not what we're talking about. You keep bringing up emergencies
and that is not relavant to the discussion.

[G.R. Patterson III]

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
>
> Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
> to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
> Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
> created.

Never happened. See http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

[TaxSrv]

"Newps" wrote:
>
> No, no FAR says anything of the sort. Where you land is not of
concern
> to the FAA.
>

Indirectly, it can be of concern to the FAA, through the infamous
catchall of reckless operation. There are at least a couple NTSB
cases where a reckless charge was upheld against a helicopter pilot
for landing (nonemergency) in a place which posed a potential hazard
to people or property.

So where a State has a similar reckless operation law as most do, but
not a specific prohibition as to where one may not land, I see nothing
stopping them from charging and litigating the case under the same
line of reasoning if the circumstances support it. But if not
factually supportable, it should be OK, but with the caution that the
potential offense is generally a misdemeanor.

Fred F.

[Hamish Reid]

In article <xS7ud.1785$Ae.1445@fed1read05>,
"BTIZ" > wrote:

> "Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > In California they'd probably get you for not passing a SMOG test
> > first.

> in California.. they get upset if you use a dry lake bed
> BT

That may or may not be true, but if you've ever travelled California's
Central Valley much, you'll surely be familiar with the various Frontage
Roads besides the freeways and sundry highways blocked off temporarily
for ag plane usage. I've many times watched an AgCat or similar land a
few metres off I-5 on the parallel local road to top up the spray tanks
(or whatever it is they do). Quite a cool sight. And quite legal.

Hamish

[Corky Scott]

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:33:54 -0700, Newps > wrote:

>And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate
>in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in
>advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do.

Well it's happened four times in the last 20 years that I'm aware of
here in Vermont. Three were engine failures and one was a Cessna 172
that had collided with another aircraft and had lost it's windshield
and had other damage.

My wife drove by two of the airplanes that had landed on interstate 89
which traverses Vermont going north northwest. One guy had pulled
into a rest stop area after landing. She said she did a double take
as she drove by. There was the turn off, the parking area with cars
in various slots, and this airplane sitting there. It was a high wing
monoplane, likely a Cessna. I read that it later got whatever it was
needing repaired fixed, and took off on the interstate after State
Police halted traffic for it.

The latest incident was an engine out on a C172 up by Barre VT. The
pilot noticed the oil pressure going down and decided he'd better land
in a hurry. He shut down and landed on the interstate and got help
from motorists to push his airplane into a turn around. At that point
my wife drove by. (interestingly, each time my wife saw the
airplanes, it was because she was making a special trip up that way.
Normally we do not go north from where we live very often, and my wife
almost never drives up there alone unless it's for some job related
reason. In both cases, she was making a single planned trip, driving
solo, years apart, and encountered the downed airplanes. Both were on
Interstate 89) From there, the airplane was towed by a wrecker,
preceded and trailed by police cruisers with lights flashing, down the
interstate to the next exit and up to the Barre/Montpelier airport.
Didn't get a ticket for anything that I'm aware of.

Corky Scott

[john smith]

=A7 4561.12. Regulation of aircraft on public property.
(A) No aircraft shall be operated or maintained on any public land or=20
water owned or controlled by this state, or by any political subdivision =

of this state, except at such places and under such rules and=20
regulations governing and controlling the operation and maintenance of=20
aircraft as are adopted and promulgated by the department of=20
transportation in accordance with sections 119.01 to 119.13 of the=20
Revised Code.
Such action and approval by the department shall not become effective=20
until it has been approved by the adoption and promulgation of=20
appropriate rules and regulations governing, controlling, and approving=20
said places and the method of operation and maintenance of aircraft, by=20
the department, division, political subdivision, agent, or agency of=20
this state having ownership or control of the places on said public land =

or water which are affected by such operation or maintenance of aircraft =

thereon.
(B) Whoever violates this section shall be fined not more than five=20
hundred dollars, imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.

HISTORY: GC =A7 6310-48a; 122 v 501; Bureau of Code Revision, 10-1-53; 12=
7=20
v 349 (Eff 9-17-57); 135 v S 96. Eff 8-22-73; 149 v S 123, =A7 1, eff. 1-=
1-04.

The effective date is set by section 4 of S.B. 123.

See provisions, =A7 5 of S.B. 123 (149 v - ), following RC =A7 4501.01.

Effect of Amendments
S.B. 123, Acts 2002, effective January 1, 2004, redesignated former=20
introductory paragraph as (A), and substituted "of this state" for=20
"thereof"; and added (B).

Ohio Adminstrative Code
Aircraft operation on public land or water. OAC ch. 5501:1-3.

[Gig Giacona]

"Newps" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Matthew Walster wrote:
>
>> In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency,
>> and if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or
>> better result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same...
>
> Land of the free and home of the brave...especially if you land on a
> country road at night. Buddy of mine did that in his Cessna 180, while
> doing his 180 degree turn on the road he wiped out a mail box next to the
> highway. Needed quite a bit of duct tape to get back home.

Story this AM on NPR pilot tries to land on highway after lose of engine.
Lands instead on top of Tractor Trailer. Obviously stays up there for some
period of time then the plane falls off. The driver didn't know it happened
until later.

Gig

[NW_PILOT]

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
> Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail
to
> them.

AOPA was not much help when asked the same question!

Response:

The landing of an airplane on anything other than a public use airport is at
the discretion of the owner of the land. Public roads are state owned. You
would have to check with the individual state highway commissions to states
you plan on traveling to. Unfortunately we do not have a list of states
that have provisions in their law for such activity.

If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 1-800-872-2672.

Best Regards,

Nathan Rohrbaugh
Aviation Technical Specialist
Aviation Services Department
Fax 301-695-2375
www.aopa.org

[NW_PILOT]

Ok, Since no place has a list I think I will be making some phone calls to
state offices and make a list.


"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list
of
> State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?
>
> The only one i have found is for Montana:
>
> The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3)
> Lawfulness of Flight and Landings:
>
> Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful
if
> proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of
the
> roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise
> provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may
not
> incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection.
>
>

[Blueskies]

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message ...
>
>
> A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
>>
>> Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
>> to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
>> Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
>> created.
>
> Never happened. See http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp
>
> George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.


Hmmm, not USA then, but here:
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/cyberpioneer/backissues_dec02_1.htm

[[email protected]]

First you need to answer this question.
"Who has juristiction over the land or water being landed upon?"

It is NOT the FAA, because the FAA only has jurisdiction over airports
and in the air.
Ask yourself this, "who would give me a ticket if I was in a car on
this road and did something illegal"? It could be a state police,
county police, city police.

Now then, there are satutes, and there is COMMON law (which is law
based on what is commonly done, court cases etc). There are federal
statutes, state statutes and city statutes (and probably some others).

For private land, you could be considered to be trespassing, if you
don't have permission. There is Federal land, State Land, County Land,
City Land, Indian Land, private land and probably some others.

There are 50 states, probaby 2500 counties, hundreds of thousands of
towns and cities. All with different laws, some with no laws at all
regarding aircraft landing.

So there are lots of different rules, depending on where you do it.
LOTS!

[[email protected]]

First you need to answer this question.
"Who has juristiction over the land or water being landed upon?"

It is NOT the FAA, because the FAA only has jurisdiction over airports
and in the air.
Ask yourself this, "who would give me a ticket if I was in a car on
this road and did something illegal"? It could be a state police,
county police, city police.

Now then, there are satutes, and there is COMMON law (which is law
based on what is commonly done, court cases etc). There are federal
statutes, state statutes and city statutes (and probably some others).

For private land, you could be considered to be trespassing, if you
don't have permission. There is Federal land, State Land, County Land,
City Land, Indian Land, private land and probably some others.

There are 50 states, probaby 2500 counties, hundreds of thousands of
towns and cities. All with different laws, some with no laws at all
regarding aircraft landing.

So there are lots of different rules, depending on where you do it.
LOTS!

[Ash Wyllie]

john smith opined

>Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati, between the 41 and 44 mile markers.
>Two parallel 15,000 runways.
>They are repaving this stretch. The old pavement was 12 inches of
>concrete with 6 inches of asphalt overlay.
>Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the Springfield ANG and Rickenbacker
>ANG bases are within 30-40 miles of this site.

>A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
>> Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
>> to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
>> Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
>> created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
>> line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
>> in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
>> but can't remember which law mandated this.

The interstates were in part to be emergency Air Force runways, just in case the
local Air Force Base was nuked.

And every(most?) overpass was to have a fall out shelter, with food, built into
it.




-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?

[Dan Thompson]

You might post this over on rec.aviation.rotorcraft Where you can legally
land off-airport is actually a practical every-day concern for helicopters.
It turns out that, where it is prohibited, it is often routine to be granted
a one-time permit to operate anyway. But someone over there may have a list
like you are looking for.

"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
> Ok, Since no place has a list I think I will be making some phone calls to
> state offices and make a list.
>
>
> "NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list
> of
>> State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?
>>
>> The only one i have found is for Montana:
>>
>> The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3)
>> Lawfulness of Flight and Landings:
>>
>> Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful
> if
>> proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of
> the
>> roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise
>> provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may
> not
>> incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection.
>>
>>
>
>

[Jürgen Exner]

john smith wrote:
> Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati, between the 41 and 44 mile markers.
> Two parallel 15,000 runways.
> They are repaving this stretch. The old pavement was 12 inches of
> concrete with 6 inches of asphalt overlay.
> Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the Springfield ANG and Rickenbacker
> ANG bases are within 30-40 miles of this site.

Quite common in both Germanys, too. There are several stretches of the
Autobahn, where the medium is paved, the center guard rails can easily be
dismounted, and there are omimous 'side roads' leading into the surrounding
forests to bunkers, hangars, and underground fuel tanks.
However that doesn't imply at all that the Autobahn police would appreciate
you landing there for a potty break. And even in case of an emergency you
are possibly better off selecting a field nearby then landing in the middle
of rushhour traffic.

jue

[Jürgen Exner]

Jürgen Exner wrote:
> Quite common in both Germanys, too. There are several stretches of the
> Autobahn, where the medium is paved,

Darn spell checkers!
That's supposed to "median" of course.

jue

[john smith]

And each overpass has to be a minimum height between the road surface
and the lowest span of the overpass to allow military equipment to be
transported on trucks to pass without "catching" the equipment.

Ash Wyllie wrote:
> And every(most?) overpass was to have a fall out shelter, with food, built into
> it.

[Frankster]

I wish they'd mark them places on sectionals! :)

-Frank
> Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
> to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
> Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
> created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
> line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
> in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
> but can't remember which law mandated this.
>
> BL.

[Frankster]

> Quite common in both Germanys, too. There are several stretches of the
> Autobahn, where the medium is paved

On the Autobahn, I'd be afraid of being rear-ended during the flair!

-Frank

[Roger]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:24:04 -0800, "NW_PILOT" >
wrote:

>
>"NW_PILOT" > wrote in message
...
>> Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail
>to
>> them.
>
>AOPA was not much help when asked the same question!
>
>Response:
>
>The landing of an airplane on anything other than a public use airport is at
>the discretion of the owner of the land. Public roads are state owned. You
>would have to check with the individual state highway commissions to states
>you plan on traveling to. Unfortunately we do not have a list of states
>that have provisions in their law for such activity.
>
This is not a complete answer and it is not completely correct...

Not all public roads are state, or federal roads. There are also
county roads which fall under county and possibly township, and
municipal laws. So, at least in Michigan you may land on a road way
out in the country with no problem. You taxi past a cross road to
take off and are ticketed as you just crossed into a county or
township that has a regulation against landing on the roads. OTOH
several times they have stopped traffic on the interstates so pilots
who had to land due to an emergency could take off. In other areas
the planes had to be trucked out. In one case the pilot said he
called airport to send out a truck, the authorities left, and he took
off with no one the wiser.

So, in many parts of the country you never know if it's legal to land
on the road or not, but it will be a local regulation unless a state
has a blanket rule against it.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 1-800-872-2672.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Nathan Rohrbaugh
>Aviation Technical Specialist
>Aviation Services Department
>Fax 301-695-2375
>www.aopa.org
>

[Roger]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:55:14 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
> wrote:

>
>
>A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
>>
>> Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
>> to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
>> Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
>> created.
>
>Never happened. See http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp

I'd have to disagree with snopes on this one. They had a program on
the development of the interstates (one of the discovery channels) and
they covered the part of the interstates for the military. Not that
they be straight for so many miles, but that they could be used for
emergency landings.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

[TaxSrv]

"Roger" wrote:
> Not all public roads are state, or federal roads. There are also
> county roads which fall under county and possibly township, and
> municipal laws. So, at least in Michigan you may land on a road
> way out in the country with no problem.

Michigan law reads this way:

259.80d Landing aircraft.

(1) An aircraft shall not land, except in an emergency, on private
property, other than upon recognized landing areas, unless express
permission is secured from the owner or lessee.

(2) A person shall not land an aircraft on a public highway, except in
an emergency. A person shall not operate an aircraft on a public
highway unless traffic is controlled by law enforcement officials.

FF

[[email protected]]

There is an old story that circulated in Thailand around the Vietnam
War era. The story goes; The US built a road in Northern Thailand for
the Thai people. The road was a curvy gravel road for miles and miles,
except for a six mile stretch that was a perfectly straight and level
four lane paved highway in the middle of nowhere. You guessed it. it
was used for B52s. I don't know if it is true or not.

Bryan

[Roger]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:16:17 -0500, "TaxSrv" >
wrote:

>"Roger" wrote:
>> Not all public roads are state, or federal roads. There are also
>> county roads which fall under county and possibly township, and
>> municipal laws. So, at least in Michigan you may land on a road
>> way out in the country with no problem.
>
>Michigan law reads this way:
>
>259.80d Landing aircraft.
>
>(1) An aircraft shall not land, except in an emergency, on private
>property, other than upon recognized landing areas, unless express
>permission is secured from the owner or lessee.
>
>(2) A person shall not land an aircraft on a public highway, except in
>an emergency. A person shall not operate an aircraft on a public
>highway unless traffic is controlled by law enforcement officials.

Generally when speaking of anything other then highways they call them
roadways such as county roadways. So, I'd need to know how they
defined highway in the bill.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>FF

[William W. Plummer]

Roger wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:16:17 -0500, "TaxSrv" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Roger" wrote:
>>
>>>Not all public roads are state, or federal roads. There are also
>>>county roads which fall under county and possibly township, and
>>>municipal laws. So, at least in Michigan you may land on a road
>>>way out in the country with no problem.
>>
>>Michigan law reads this way:
>>
>>259.80d Landing aircraft.
>>
>>(1) An aircraft shall not land, except in an emergency, on private
>>property, other than upon recognized landing areas, unless express
>>permission is secured from the owner or lessee.
>>
>>(2) A person shall not land an aircraft on a public highway, except in
>>an emergency. A person shall not operate an aircraft on a public
>>highway unless traffic is controlled by law enforcement officials.
>
>
> Generally when speaking of anything other then highways they call them
> roadways such as county roadways. So, I'd need to know how they
> defined highway in the bill.

The first part above seems to duplicate laws against trespassing and is
unnecessary. But, it makes sense. When flying a balloon we always ask
a landowner for permission to land if he is around. Taking a photo of
the owner accepting the traditional bottle of wine guards against future
claims. A free tethered flight also generates goodwill.

But that doesn't work with highways. In fact a balloon landing in a
cloverleaf could be a safety hazard and cause accidents. Airplanes
landing on the highway would do the same. OTOH I've heard of many
planes landing on highways, but I don't think I've heard that auto
damage resulted.

[[email protected]]

William W. Plummer wrote :
>OTOH I've heard of many
>planes landing on highways, but I don't think I've heard that auto
>damage resulted.

It happens occasionally. Earlier this year (or possibly last year) a
singe engine plane made an emergency landing on a freeway. The plane,
with the engine still running, landed on top of a minivan. The prop
sliced open the van and severed a young girl's leg.
John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)